They are so #1 it's amazing! Why mess with anything?They have been the same logo since they were playing 60's music I think it's time for a New Logo. What does Everyone else think?
TrueThey are so #1 it's amazing! Why mess with anything?
Actually the study of business strategy shows that companies that lead in their industry typically seek out changes toward the end of the growth phase of the product life cycle (PLC), or at the latest while they are in the first portion of the maturity segment of the PLC. Those who subscribe to the "why mess with anything" philosophy typically don't realize that the market has morphed until they are already into the decline phase and by then a competitor has seized the opportunity to redefine the market; and the former leader settles into its decline phase lamenting what it used to be.They are so #1 it's amazing! Why mess with anything?

In this case, the logo is very secondary to the product. In fact, changing the logo of established "non-physical" offerings can be destructive, as we are seeing with Twitter and whatever it is called today.Actually the study of business strategy shows that companies that lead in their industry typically seek out changes toward the end of the growth phase of the product life cycle (PLC), or at the latest while they are in the first portion of the maturity segment of the PLC. Those who subscribe to the "why mess with anything" philosophy typically don't realize that the market has morphed until they are already into the decline phase and by then a competitor has seized the opportunity to redefine the market; and the former leader settles into its decline phase lamenting what it used to be.
Both KOLA and KRTH have smartly operated this way by understanding that the definition of the product and its presentation need to evolve. Had they opted for "why mess with anything" over their tenure then by now other stations would have grabbed the mantle of classic hits leadership away from them.
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Not disagreeing with you, but then this question comes to mind: what keeps those of you still in the radio business going and motivated to stick with it? The prospects seem daunting.And then there is the issue that stations are not at maturity or in decline, while the whole sector is. Sorta' like buggy whips where one brand may be the best, but overall market size is shrinking.
No, their logo has reached iconic status and should not be changedThey have been the same logo since they were playing 60's music I think it's time for a New Logo. What does Everyone else think?
Outstanding posts from you both! Mucho Gracious! Shifting platforms is a nerve racking thing.In this case, the logo is very secondary to the product. In fact, changing the logo of established "non-physical" offerings can be destructive, as we are seeing with Twitter and whatever it is called today.
While the logo may appear on streaming apps, keeping it consistent can be an advantage.
We used to do product life cycle analysis at HBC under Dr. John Kennedy of Notre Dame and one of the key analysis points is that the product is free, not on a shelf and universally "in stock". Today's issue is not branding, but with 30% of homes with no radio, no longer always "in stock".
The question is whether a visual representation of an intangible product is static or progressive.
My perspective is that logos and names based on dial positions are in danger. "FM 100" is not a viable brand today unless the "100" is made to mean something beyond the dial position, like "one hundred percent best music" (bad example, but demonstration of getting away from dial position as a name).
And then there is the issue that stations are not at maturity or in decline, while the whole sector is. Sorta' like buggy whips where one brand may be the best, but overall market size is shrinking.
The old saying can be wrong also. Stagnation is the risk of “but we’ve always done it this way.” Does that mean changing every week? No. But it does man standing still can easily give competitors an advantage. Because it “ain’t broke” until it is.As the old saying goes "If it ain't broke don't fix it"
But Target's interior design and layout are more like a radio station's formatics... imaging, transitions from jingles to produced spoken identification, amount of DJ presence, contests, and so on.The old saying can be wrong also. Stagnation is the risk of “but we’ve always done it this way.” Does that mean changing every week? No. But it does man standing still can easily give competitors an advantage. Because it “ain’t broke” until it is.
If we can set aside the overwrought fake culture war BS from June, take Target as a general example. The bullseye has remained (and even that got a new style eons ago), but the way it has been incorporated into the brand has changed over time. The design of the word Target has changed multiple times. Stores are refreshed regularly with new looks. My local stores have never been broken based on the traffic. Still aren’t. But they change and evolve regularly.
Even the almighty Walmart logo has changed—dramatically and frequently all things considered over time. Was the chain broken each time they did that? No. Of course not.
And no, a single radio station is not Walmart. Not saying that. But the idea any given brand is sacrosanct until the wheels completely fall off is naive. There’s no magic formula for when a tweak to branding can be beneficial. And we know, especially in social media and forums like these, there will be loud complainers. Oh well, such is life.
The logo was also mentioned for both then and Walmart, as just two examples. There will always be some “but but but” down in the weeds. We can find all kinds of businesses that have changed logos without being “broken” which did not break anything. 🙄But Target's interior design and layout are more like a radio station's formatics... imaging, transitions from jingles to produced spoken identification, amount of DJ presence, contests, and so on.
A store's layout and decoration are the same as a station's formatics. Neither is comparable to a logo for an audio service.
Wal-Mart doesn't use its logo from its era of rapid expansion in the 1970s, which is probably a good thing.The logo was also mentioned for both then and Walmart, as just two examples. There will always be some “but but but” down in the weeds. We can find all kinds of businesses that have changed logos without being “broken” which did not break anything. 🙄
The point is standing pat is not always the best option. It can be counterproductive. It can also be the best choice. There is no one universal option even in the same industry.
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One thing I might try and do is move the transmitter from Box Spring Mtn to say Sunset Ridge above Claremont. Since they're a grandfathered Superpower Class B (30 kw @ 1300 ft,) even with a required power reduction to probably about 3-4 kw from Sunset they would still cover the entire IE plus add a direct signal to most of the LA Basin. Why not? KRTH covers the entire IE from Wilson -- why shouldn't KOLA cover LA as well.They are so #1 it's amazing! Why mess with anything?