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Christmas Music

They’re scams. The ludicrous “health” shows, the financial rip-offs—scams and frauds one and all.
You mean the “health” shows. Maybe those are but the other shows are legitimate. Do you think the radio stations are purposefully trying to scam people. I don’t know if they realize that the health shows are scams? Do you mean the ripoffs for health related items? I hope the radio stations aren’t falling for those scams and the scam shows.
 
Oh good lord, those financial shows are complete scams. And stations don’t need to give a damn. The check clears, the garbage runs. Anyone offering a legit financial service isn’t running a bogus show on talk radio.
 
Are stations trying to illegally attempting to scam people now specifically Entercom (now Audacy) and other companies like IHeartMedia? Particularly on the weekends? At least John Tesh, Delilah, and the Ellen K Weekend Show are legitimate. I think the health and financial shows are especially on talk radio more often as they are probably definitely attempting to scam people. Some of the talk radio stations also do news like 97.3 KIRO FM in Seattle.
 
If they're infomercials a big part of them are scams, whether it's on radio or TV.
I think TV they are on Ads and blocks. If the TV stations know it is a scam maybe they want to scam people too. The ones that are doing it. Informercial ADs can be scams too on the radio though.
 
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Oh good lord, those financial shows are complete scams. And stations don’t need to give a damn. The check clears, the garbage runs. Anyone offering a legit financial service isn’t running a bogus show on talk radio.
Just listen for the words "fixed index annuity" - something which is not truly fixed and thus is not truly an annuity.

Also - "gold IRAs". Legal but stupid to do.
 
Older people especially fall for health scams. TV radio ads even phones and internet scams. They are even on YouTube sometimes. They even fall for the financial ones too. I think it is the scammers target primarily.
 
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Btw Warm usually flips to Christmas music here in the Tacoma-Seattle area around mid Nov Wednesday or Thursday before Thanksgiving. Last year they flipped on Tuesday Nov 15 though so you’d never really know what will happen.
 
When did Christmas music used to start pre-2000s? Was there ever a time it mostly started after Thanksgiving (as would make sense)?
 
I remember only that some songs on soft AC were Christmas songs back in the early and mid 80s.

Around the time "Gloria" by Laura Branigan was popular, even on Christmas Day one soft AC played that one. Not a Christmas song, and on the TV series "Solid Gold" she performed "Angels We Have Heard on High" (with the word "Gloria" repeated) and just had to include a line from her other song.
 
“Mostly?” Sure. That’s a pretty broad term, and it was common back in the olden days of the 20th century to begin playing right around Thanksgiving and not full time. I remember coming out of a remote at some nightclub on the god-forsaken night before Thanksgiving (the crowd lived up to the reputation of it being one of the busiest party nights of the year and was especially obnoxious 😉) to hear a holiday tune at 2 or 3 or whatever hour of the morning it was).

Anyone from the AC to the CHR in town would play holiday songs sprinkled amidst the usual format. You can still find some of that, with stations what drop in the occasional holiday tune, while someone (and maybe more than one someone) is doing the all-holiday thing.

For stations that did some variation of the 24 or 36 hours of non-stop Christmas music, that stood out a bit more because it may have been the only time they were all-Christmas.

But this is long-covered ground. The sales more than justify the way things are now.
 
“Mostly?” Sure. That’s a pretty broad term, and it was common back in the olden days of the 20th century to begin playing right around Thanksgiving and not full time. I remember coming out of a remote at some nightclub on the god-forsaken night before Thanksgiving (the crowd lived up to the reputation of it being one of the busiest party nights of the year and was especially obnoxious 😉) to hear a holiday tune at 2 or 3 or whatever hour of the morning it was).

Anyone from the AC to the CHR in town would play holiday songs sprinkled amidst the usual format. You can still find some of that, with stations what drop in the occasional holiday tune, while someone (and maybe more than one someone) is doing the all-holiday thing.

For stations that did some variation of the 24 or 36 hours of non-stop Christmas music, that stood out a bit more because it may have been the only time they were all-Christmas.

But this is long-covered ground. The sales more than justify the way things are now.
Apparently some more started after 9/11 doing all Christmas (from the reputable source known as Wikipedia 🙄), but otherwise can't find any info as to when all Christmas became a "thing." Also don't know why they ended up starting so early, but I guess it did well. I would think day before Christmas they would play more, but is strange how long it goes now.
 
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“Mostly?” Sure. That’s a pretty broad term, and it was common back in the olden days of the 20th century to begin playing right around Thanksgiving and not full time. I remember coming out of a remote at some nightclub on the god-forsaken night before Thanksgiving (the crowd lived up to the reputation of it being one of the busiest party nights of the year and was especially obnoxious 😉) to hear a holiday tune at 2 or 3 or whatever hour of the morning it was).

Anyone from the AC to the CHR in town would play holiday songs sprinkled amidst the usual format. You can still find some of that, with stations what drop in the occasional holiday tune, while someone (and maybe more than one someone) is doing the all-holiday thing.

For stations that did some variation of the 24 or 36 hours of non-stop Christmas music, that stood out a bit more because it may have been the only time they were all-Christmas.

But this is long-covered ground. The sales more than justify the way things are now.
A lot of them do no commercials during this time and were already all-Christmas since early-Mid November for many years now.
 
It’s not strange; it’s business. Obviously the magnitude of the impact can vary across markets and across years, but there is an indisputable positive impact for most stations that claimed the mantle (or share it among several as the case may be).
 
A lot of them do no commercials during this time and were already all-Christmas since early-Mid November for many years now.
We already covered it is generally since sometime in November. The no commercial thing for 24 or 36 or however many hours for a number of stations marks the only appreciable difference, other than not having anyone on air depending on the exact scenario. The point is it’s the same music that’s been playing around the clock already.
 
We already covered it is generally since sometime in November. The no commercial thing for 24 or 36 or however many hours for a number of stations marks the only appreciable difference, other than not having anyone on air depending on the exact scenario. The point is it’s the same music that’s been playing around the clock already.
Yep. Same exact songs though not always in the same order.
 
It’s not strange; it’s business. Obviously the magnitude of the impact can vary across markets and across years, but there is an indisputable positive impact for most stations that claimed the mantle (or share it among several as the case may be).
I mean it is unusual how fast the trend took off, if in the 90s and before, Christmas tunes were mostly just sprinkled it, whereas all Christmas began in November by the end of the aughts.
 
Yep eventually you get even more stations that started flipping in later years like Charlie FM in Portland the Lake in Charolette and Star 102.1 in Dallas.
 
I mean it is unusual how fast the trend took off, if in the 90s and before, Christmas tunes were mostly just sprinkled it, whereas all Christmas began in November by the end of the aughts.
Nothing breeds imitation faster than success. By no means is that exclusive to radio of course. Who wouldn’t want to pad the bottom line if you’re running a compatibly formatted station?
 
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