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Voluntary License Surrender: KBMB 710

Ya think? Black Canyon City is but a mere suburb of New River, where those stranger than Nurse Jeff and me hang. Here's hopin' that frequency goes away as the AM landscape is littered with far more dinosaurs than the tar pits can absorb.

Ancient minerals never went out of fashion, but Ancient Modulation did.
 
...the AM landscape is littered with far more dinosaurs than the tar pits can absorb.
So that is where K-TAR got their call letters! Now it makes sense!
 
Those sources are not correct. Entravision fired up the signal from the most recent Black Canyon City location in 2001. I personally remember the licensee prior to Z-Spanish signing on the original 500w signal temporarily in the mid-'90s simulcasting KDKB to keep its license alive. I may have the stunting loop from 2001 recorded somewhere, either on a cassette or MiniDisc.
I recall 3 different loops.

The first, was when they were in test mode, coming on the air intermittently with a loop of Classic Country songs like Eddie Rabbit and Barbara Mandrell. Then came the loop that had snippets of songs with the words 'time' and 'change' in them, announcing something like "It's time, a change is coming". The last one was the ticking clock, and announcing Monday morning would be the official sign on.

And how did KDKB and Sandusky get involved in that simulcast? The signal during that time was very weak, it had to be less than 500 watts. It didn't come in clear until New River.
 
And how did KDKB and Sandusky get involved in that simulcast? The signal during that time was very weak, it had to be less than 500 watts. It didn't come in clear until New River.
IIRC, it was running 500 watts at the time. It was barely audible in south Scottsdale, and not at all in south Tempe and Ahwatukee.
 
IIRC, it was running 500 watts at the time. It was barely audible in south Scottsdale, and not at all in south Tempe and Ahwatukee.
It was barely audible in what was considered "North Peoria" at the time (one mile west of Arrowhead Towne Center). I remember hearing the simulcast and they would interrupt the KDKB programming for the call letters, which I thought the person said "KUE" and not "KUET." I think I might have posted my findings on the earliest version of this message board, when it was hosted by InsideTheWeb.
 
So that is where K-TAR got their call letters! Now it makes sense!
True dat. And prior to those calls, it was KREP. Even back then, the Old Gringos referred to it as K :poop:

Now returning to the scene of this thread, the Nurse and I recall this is the second time 7~Ten hung it up. The first time was KUET, a 500w daytimer with a single stick east of I-17. Hmmmm....wonder what kind of insanity did it take to think you could make a buck selling airtime where the cacti out number the people?
 
You're both right. Z Spanish bought it in 1997, but it did not sign-on back until very late 2001. First flip to Spanish programming was in 2003 when it became KMIA.
About a year before that, Z Spanish made a play for acquiring 1230 from Sundance, but they couldn't meet Jorgy's price. So they ended up buying a much inferior signal.
 
Ya think? Black Canyon City is but a mere suburb of New River, where those stranger than Nurse Jeff and me hang. Here's hopin' that frequency goes away as the AM landscape is littered with far more dinosaurs than the tar pits can absorb.
Every time I read one of these posts, I get disappointed, a bit sad and yes, even a tad angry, that Dr. Akbar and Nurse Jeff aren't real, and there is no actual Media Hut and no Gremlin or butter rum drinks. I don't know what was more difficult to accept - Santa Claus the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy or Akbar and Jeff :(
 
Yes, Mikey Radio, there is a Media Hut. It exists as certainly as love and generosity and devotion exist, and you know that they abound and give to your life its highest beauty and joy.

Alas! how dreary would be the world if there were no Akbar and Jeff! It would be as dreary as if there were no Mikey Radios. There would be no childlike faith then, no poetry, no romance to make tolerable this existence.

We should have no enjoyment, except in sense and sight. The eternal light with which childhood fills the world would be extinguished.

Not believe in Akbar and Jeff! You might as well not believe in fairies! You might get your papa to hire men to watch every exit on the 202 on Christmas eve to catch the Gremlin, but even if they did not see the Media Hut, what would that prove? Nobody sees Akbar or Jeff, but that is no sign that there is no Akbar and Jeff.

You tear apart the Lamptimer and see what makes the oldies inside, but there is a veil covering the unseen world which not the strongest man, not even the united strength of all the strongest men that ever lived could tear apart. Only faith, fancy, poetry, love, romance, can push aside that curtain and view and picture the supernal beauty and glory beyond. Is it all real? Ah, Mikey Radio, in all this world there is nothing else real and abiding.

No Media Hut! Thank God it lives, and it lives forever. A thousand years from now, Mikey Radio, nay, ten times ten thousand years from now, he will continue to make glad the message boards of the Southwest.
 
STA Filed today on the cancelled license.

"Entravision Holdings, LLC (“Entravision”), licensee of KBMB(AM), Black Canyon City, AZ (FID 63147),
hereby requests authority for KBMB to remain silent. On November 27, 2023, KBMB suspended
operations due to the sale of its tower site. Entravision is exploring options to restore service on KBMB
as soon as possible"
 
STA Filed today on the cancelled license.

"Entravision Holdings, LLC (“Entravision”), licensee of KBMB(AM), Black Canyon City, AZ (FID 63147),
hereby requests authority for KBMB to remain silent. On November 27, 2023, KBMB suspended
operations due to the sale of its tower site. Entravision is exploring options to restore service on KBMB
as soon as possible"
Well, this is news. What's the closest existing AM site to BCC now, KFNX? Is there any way they can diplex in a so that they can provide city-grade service to BCC, or will they choose a simpler, lower power option to revive the license?
 
Well, this is news. What's the closest existing AM site to BCC now, KFNX? Is there any way they can diplex in a so that they can provide city-grade service to BCC, or will they choose a simpler, lower power option to revive the license?
When did that station ever even pretend to serve BCC? Since it increased power, it's always been a PHX rimshot.
 
When did that station ever even pretend to serve BCC? Since it increased power, it's always been a PHX rimshot.
You're right. But, doesn't the FCC at least require stations to cover their city of license?
 
STA Filed today on the cancelled license.

"Entravision Holdings, LLC (“Entravision”), licensee of KBMB(AM), Black Canyon City, AZ (FID 63147),
hereby requests authority for KBMB to remain silent. On November 27, 2023, KBMB suspended
operations due to the sale of its tower site. Entravision is exploring options to restore service on KBMB
as soon as possible"
Does Entravision operate any stations in English? Black Canyon City is about 90% non-Hispanic White, with a population of about 2600. There's no reason to rebuild a Spanish-language station there. Besides, they'd have to revert to what they were as KUET -- low power daytime, while maybe adding a few watts at night. Why bother?
 
Lately, it seems like the cancellation of a license often brings someone out of the woodwork to offer some rock-bottom price to acquire that license during the 30 day period in which it can be retrieved from cancellation. (I've done that myself for clients on several FMs.)

If you're Entravision, there's no downside - if you can get $20,000 instead of $0, why not file the STA, take the money and run?

I don't know how it would make sense for any buyer, but that's the buyer's problem at that point.
 
Does Entravision operate any stations in English? Black Canyon City is about 90% non-Hispanic White, with a population of about 2600. There's no reason to rebuild a Spanish-language station there. Besides, they'd have to revert to what they were as KUET -- low power daytime, while maybe adding a few watts at night. Why bother?

they have a satellite fed classic country station in sacramento, along with a rock and ac station in the RGV of TX
 
The the biggest issue in trying to find a new site for this station its that they are the only thing licensed to Black Canyon City. They would at least have to keep 5 mv/m daytime coverage of their city of license. Only way to change their city of license would be get another station that has city grade over Black Canyon City to "backfill" the town. But the station would have to come from a multi service town. They could change to a class D AM and not be required to cover Black Canyon City at night. But the other issues are contour protections to KDWN Las Vegas on 720, KSPN on 710 in LA, KIDR Phoenix on 740, and new AM applications on 700 at Yuma, AZ and Silver City, NM that have never been resolved for some reason. So its a tough channel to do much with even going to a class D without night protections. It could in theory be move south and the KFNX Cave Creek site could work to diplex from and keep 5 mv/m daytime coverage over Black Canyon City, but not sure it would be worth all the expense to rebuild it to end up with not great coverage. So my guess is this is another one that will end up dead on the vine.
 
The the biggest issue in trying to find a new site for this station its that they are the only thing licensed to Black Canyon City. They would at least have to keep 5 mv/m daytime coverage of their city of license. Only way to change their city of license would be get another station that has city grade over Black Canyon City to "backfill" the town. But the station would have to come from a multi service town. They could change to a class D AM and not be required to cover Black Canyon City at night. But the other issues are contour protections to KDWN Las Vegas on 720, KSPN on 710 in LA, KIDR Phoenix on 740, and new AM applications on 700 at Yuma, AZ and Silver City, NM that have never been resolved for some reason. So its a tough channel to do much with even going to a class D without night protections. It could in theory be move south and the KFNX Cave Creek site could work to diplex from and keep 5 mv/m daytime coverage over Black Canyon City, but not sure it would be worth all the expense to rebuild it to end up with not great coverage. So my guess is this is another one that will end up dead on the vine.

The Yuma and Silver city notes you mention appear to be for "international purposes".. a placeholder, not an application.

KBMB is likely, better off dead... its been a nothingburger for years
 
Not believe in Akbar and Jeff! You might as well not believe in fairies! You might get your papa to hire men to watch every exit on the 202 on Christmas eve to catch the Gremlin, but even if they did not see the Media Hut, what would that prove? Nobody sees Akbar or Jeff, but that is no sign that there is no Akbar and Jeff.
Egads...No Tent City? No Round Up Drive In? No JJ the King of Beepers? No "is it raining where you are?", No Old Gringo? Blasphemy!! Just point your tin foil hat in the direction of the Middle Eastern Men of the Media, and you'll be a believer.

(the preceding message was brought to you by Sam Meranto & Acquanetta)
 
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