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WFUV 90.7 Apparently No Longer In HD

WFUV has had an HD2 for many years. Most of the time it rebroadcast the programming on the main channel. But when there was specialty programming on weekends, or during sports events coverage, the HD2 offered a continuation of the regular fare.
I haven't heard them using HD for several weeks. And the WFUV website no longer mentions the alternate broadcasts carried by the HD2 as well as online. This would seem to be a budget cutting move.
 
Are they running at reduced power right now? Not only is HD off but the analog reception seems weaker than usual for me.

WFUV-HD2 has been pointless since they dropped The Alternate Side anyway.
 
Since there is a thread about WFUV, I'd like to ask if there is a return on investment as WFUV is simulcasted on WNYE weekdays from 6 AM - 10 AM. I understand this is done since the reception of 90. 7 FM is weak in some parts of Manhattan and Brooklyn.
 
Do they have an aux site? A lot of smaller stations do not have HD on the aux site. For that matter, some major stations don't.
 
WFUV has an aux antenna at a different location on the same tower.
Maybe an aux transmitter? An major 100k watter in Atlanta had a lightening hit to their antenna last year. It took out the transmitter too. They had an aux antenna on the same tower but the aux transmitter and antenna were not set up for HD. The broadcast that way for months until a new main antenna could be manufactured. I mention this because if the are on an aux antenna and transmitter, it will most likely not have the same coverage as the main. Also, it might not have HD.
 
Maybe an aux transmitter? An major 100k watter in Atlanta had a lightening hit to their antenna last year. It took out the transmitter too. They had an aux antenna on the same tower but the aux transmitter and antenna were not set up for HD. The broadcast that way for months until a new main antenna could be manufactured. I mention this because if the are on an aux antenna and transmitter, it will most likely not have the same coverage as the main. Also, it might not have HD.
What station was this? I knew WNNX had a visit from lightning but they are not 100k watts a C2 IIRC.
 
Since there is a thread about WFUV, I'd like to ask if there is a return on investment as WFUV is simulcasted on WNYE weekdays from 6 AM - 10 AM. I understand this is done since the reception of 90. 7 FM is weak in some parts of Manhattan and Brooklyn.

I think this is more about WNYE needing morning programming. It apparently is not permitted to run any NPR show that WNYC-AM-FM is running at the same time. So it can't run Morning Edition. I'm not sure why this is. In LA, KCRW and KPCC both run Morning Edition. In Boston, WBUR and WGBH-FM also both run Morning Edition.

WFUV allows its morning show, with some news, weather and sports briefs, to also run on WNYE. I don't think it is about WNYE having a better signal in some places. The plan gives WFUV more exposure and potential donors. And WNYE, which is fully funded by the City of New York and doesn't seek donations, gets a morning show before it begins running NPR shows later in the morning.
 
Why would there be a significant audience for Morning Edition on WNYE, when it already runs on WNYC, and other nearby NPR affiliates?
 
I think this is more about WNYE needing morning programming. It apparently is not permitted to run any NPR show that WNYC-AM-FM is running at the same time. So it can't run Morning Edition. I'm not sure why this is. In LA, KCRW and KPCC both run Morning Edition. In Boston, WBUR and WGBH-FM also both run Morning Edition.
The same situation exists in Los Angeles, San Francisco, Sacramento and Seattle. Two stations join the network to carry M.E., then break off as necessary to run their own interstitial programming. So why would it be an issue in New York? (The only reason would be if that arrangement was part of some non-compete agreement hammered together when WNYC left the City of New York's stable and WNYE remained city-owned. But if that's the case, that would be a private agreement, not something imposed from on high by NPR.)
WFUV allows its morning show, with some news, weather and sports briefs, to also run on WNYE. I don't think it is about WNYE having a better signal in some places. The plan gives WFUV more exposure and potential donors. And WNYE, which is fully funded by the City of New York and doesn't seek donations, gets a morning show before it begins running NPR shows later in the morning.
It sounds like a symbiotic relationship. The station of Jesuit-owned Fordham University, with a less-than-full-market signal, gets carriage on a stronger signal that takes their AM Drive show to a wider footprint. And the station of the City of New York, which has never produced a successful morning program of its own, gets to carry another NFP station's show at little or no expense. Win-win, no?
 
The difference is that the stations in LA, SF, Boston and Seattle each use their versions of ME as the showcase for their own distinct newsrooms and program lineups.

While it's "NPR's" Morning Edition and can be run as pretty much a straight national feed, it's really a collection of segments - four national newscasts and five blocks of long-form news segments each hour - that are built to be used very flexibly by large and medium stations in a variety of configurations that can mix in as much as 20 minutes of local content each hour.

It's an expensive show to carry, but for stations like WBUR/WGBH or KPCC/KCRW it earns its keep by providing a national foundation upon which each station adds its own flavor and can draw membership and underwriting dollars as a result.

WNYE lacks any of that "stationality" - it's just a collection of shows all produced from outside sources. It has no newsroom to create any local content for ME, no local underwriting or membership department to raise money to offset the cost of the show.

Even though there's no market exclusivity to ME (or ATC), there's really nothing for WNYE to gain by carrying it, at least in WNYE's current incarnation.
 
And just to give an idea of what a medium-market NPR station can do with ME with enough resources, here's how much we do locally in a typical hour at WXXI:

00:00 national :60 billboard, but it includes a local "donut" that we fill with a tease for our upcoming stories

01:00 NPR hourly newscast

04:00 local WXXI newscast (3:30)

07:30 national ME segment A - this is usually the top national stories of the day and most stations will always carry this in full

19:00 local 2:00 break - weather, traffic, forward promotion and local underwriting

21:00 national underwriting

21:35 national ME segment B - we almost always take this in full

29:00 local :60 break - see 19:00

30:00 NPR national newscast (this comes in two segments with a cutaway at 31:30 that we could use for local news but don't)

33:00 local :60 break

34:00 national underwriting

34:35 national ME segment C - by this point in the hour, it's often feature stories. This is sometimes a spot for one long 7 minute feature. We generally carry this in full

42:30 local WXXI newscast

45:35 ME segment D - this is the one NPR designates as an official "cutaway," so the story they feed nationally in this slot isn't teased or promoted elsewhere in the hour by the national hosts.

We use this slot for local long-form reporting. We can fit stories up to 5 minutes long from our own reporters or from Karen DeWitt in Albany here. Our local ME host will occasionally do live interviews here, and on Mondays this is where we carry a local business report as well.

If we don't have something local for this slot, we run the national D segment

49:35 local 2-minute break - more forward promotion, weather, traffic, etc. If segment D runs long it cuts into this break and that's OK.

51:30 national ME segment E. For several hours of the morning, NPR has a deal with APM to carry Marketplace Morning Report in this segment. Otherwise, this is often where a single long story such as an interview with an artist can go.

If we happen to have an exceptional long local piece or several 4-minute features that all need to run, we can use the E block here for that, but we usually don't.

58:20 national underwriting

59:00 local :60 break including legal ID

And around and around it goes from 5:30 (we don't do local in the first half hour at 5) untill 9:07:30 (we go back to the full national feed for the rest of the 9 AM hour).

There are some pieces NPR sends down that we never use - there's another block of national hourly newscast content at :04 that we cover up locally, and a little :30 "return" bit of host chatter that we cover at :44. There are also some national promos as part of the NPR feed (for 1A, Here and Now, ATC and Fresh Air) that come during our local breaks and can either be used or covered.

And for every station that localizes ME, there's a different way of doing it that's built on the skeleton of the national clock.

It's a fun and sometimes infuriating jigsaw puzzle, especially in a situation like mine at WXXI where I'm the solo local host/newscaster/show producer/board op, a role that can expand to be as many as four or five people at a really big station.
 
WNYE lacks any of that "stationality" - it's just a collection of shows all produced from outside sources. It has no newsroom to create any local content for ME, no local underwriting or membership department to raise money to offset the cost of the show.
Does WNYE make any money for New York City? If it doesn't perhaps the city should sell it to a not-for-profit corporation.
 
Does WNYE make any money for New York City? If it doesn't perhaps the city should sell it to a not-for-profit corporation.
I'm assuming yes, if only from the Greek and Haitian leased-time programming. But I have never dug in deeply enough to its finances to say that with huge certainty.
 
Thanks, Scott, for the Morning Edition hourly clock. I've always wondered how the hour gets divided between national and local segments.
 
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