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USC's KDFC Expands to Livermore

USC has entered into a "license swap" agreement with the new Livermore NCE CP holder (Galaxy Cat) USC will get 89.9 Livermore while Galaxy Cat will get K212AA in Los Gatos (90.9 ). The translator has an approved mod to increase power from 16.5 to 55 watts and greatly increase coverage area into most of San Josè. Filed today.

This likely will be a relay of the main KDFC classical radio service but it could be used to relay their HD2 service.


NCE Livermore https://fccdata.org/?facid=766057
K212AA Los Gatos. https://fccdata.org/?facid=&call=K212AA
 
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Galaxy Cat cannot use it to rebroadcast their LPFM KGXY-LP

Commonly-owned translators​

The Commonly-owned translator is actually licensed to the same organization that is licensed to operate the LPFM station. For Commonly-owned translators, the FCC has established several restrictions that only apply to LPFM commonly-owned translator stations:
  • An LPFM station is limited to owning only two commonly-owned translators.
  • The commonly-owned translator must be located within 20 miles of the LPFM station's transmitter location or the reference coordinates for the city of license (The latter part is exclusive to LPFM translators). This distance is 10 miles when the LPFM station is in one of the Neilsen Audio top-50 media markets.
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I believe you're correct, channel 212 would be 90.3, not 90.9 (which is channel 215).

(For extra credit, would a station on 87.9 be channel 200?)
It moved from 90.3 to 90.9 with the increase in power. Take look at the history at the fccdata.org page above. Also take a look at the price paid when the license was transferred to Classical Public Radio LLC. They paid $205,000.00 for that 10-watt translator.

And yes, 87.9 is channel 200. The one and only licensed station on that frequency (AFAIK) is K200AA in Reno. KSFH in Mountain View used to be there, but they have since turned in their license.

Dave B.
 
Yes.. I apologize for the "mis-channeling" of the translator.. I bet Los Gatos can be flipped to EMF for a pretty penny in any case..
 
Galaxy Cat cannot use it to rebroadcast their LPFM KGXY-LP

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What could be arranged is for KGXY-LP to be simulcast on one of KXSC’s HD channels. That HD channel feeds the translator. A nice work-around of the rules…if you want to call it that.

The only fly in the ointment is it being owned in the same name. Technically, I don’t think they’re allowed to own it under the same name. Start up another nonprofit, transfer the translator to them for little/no consideration.
 
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What could be arranged is for KGXY-LP to be simulcast on one of KXSC’s HD channels. That HD channel feeds the translator. A nice work-around of the rules…if you want to call it that.

I’ve asked about KGXY-LP and been told it is off the air anyway, not sure what their programming is. It doesn’t even really reach anything.
 
They have a CP to change locations and COL.

I’m curious, is “Galaxy Cat” related to “Pirate Cat” radio that used to come and go from the SF airwaves in the 90’s-00’s?
 
Everyone gets a trophy! The 90.9 callsign for the uograded Los Gatos translator is K215FQ. It's in the approved CP filing paperwork.

Hmmm. Michi commented that LPFMs relaying full-power statiins was not a kosher affair in the eyes of the FCC. I still see a quick flip sale for 90.9 unless it can find a primary source such as an HDx for a fill-in service.
 
KUSC has been approved to transfer K212AA Los Gatos to Common Communications Southern California (same licensee as KTCN-FM Acton, CA) even though the applications shows to Galaxy Cat.
 
Everyone gets a trophy! The 90.9 callsign for the uograded Los Gatos translator is K215FQ. It's in the approved CP filing paperwork.

Hmmm. Michi commented that LPFMs relaying full-power statiins was not a kosher affair in the eyes of the FCC. I still see a quick flip sale for 90.9 unless it can find a primary source such as an HDx for a fill-in service.
Wondering how they get an upgrade on 90.9, when they're probably not any more than 30 miles away from fullpower KCSM on 91.1, with some elevation to boost its coverage from San Mateo. Isn't that a bit of a squeeze?
 
just got this: ...
over the next few days, KDFC will no longer be available in the Los Gatos/Saratoga area on 90.3 FM. You can still hear us in Los Gatos, Saratoga, and all across the South Bay on 104.9 FM.

We originally purchased this small signal in 2011 to do what we could to keep a presence in the South Bay. In 2012, we were able to buy a much larger signal on 104.9 FM and thus reach a much larger community throughout the region, including those listeners served by 90.3 FM in Los Gatos/Saratoga. We're now able to save operating expenses by discontinuing our broadcast service on 90.3 FM.

..Please note: This change does not affect the 90.3 FM signal that serves the San Francisco, Marin, and Oakland areas..
 
Once 89.9 fm in Livermore turns on their signal. Tri-Valley area will be able to listen to KDFC. I wonder which others parts area of the Bay Area besides Diablo valley still don’t have KDFC coverage?

Also, I notice classical California only covers the California coastal areas between San Francisco and Los Angeles. Will they expand down to California Central Valley and/or San Diego areas?
 
Once 89.9 fm in Livermore turns on their signal. Tri-Valley area will be able to listen to KDFC. I wonder which others parts area of the Bay Area besides Diablo valley still don’t have KDFC coverage?
From the mid-Peninsula, let's say San Mateo down to Palo Alto, KDFC can be heard in three places on my car's FM dial, Sunnyvale (104.9), Angwin (89.9) and San Francisco (90.3). (Or is it vice versa?) East Bay reception should be roughly equivalent. So I doubt there are any significant gaps in their footprint at this point. Livermore should reduce those deficiencies even more.
Also, I notice classical California only covers the California coastal areas between San Francisco and Los Angeles. Will they expand down to California Central Valley and/or San Diego areas?
Are there other stations available at a price they'd be willing to pay? Is there enough audience in those areas that would be willing to listen and contribute? Do other stations already exist in those areas playing similar styles of music? And does USC have available funds to expand the footprint into areas like Fresno, Bakersfield, Merced, Santa Barbara or San Luis Obispo? Answer those questions and you've probably got your answer.
 
USC has already a signal in SLO (99.7FM), Santa Barbara (93.7FM) Merced, a translator (96.7FM) of capital public radio. Bakersfield and Fresno only HD2 radio of Valley Public Radio. They don’t have a full time analog station in Central Valley.
 


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