By the way....(and BONG may remember this better than me)....101.5 was KETO (before Singing Cowboy bought it in 1976) and was playing country at that point.
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No Joke. Star 101.5 Flipping Today Too
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That may be true, but what 101.5 is doing is very different from the other two. In some markets, that format can even out-draw the contemporary stations. For the same reason classic rock might outdraw current rock.
If you look at Kansas City, you have two competing current country stations (WDAF and KBEQ) and a classic country (KFKF) and the classic country is #2 ahead of the second current country station.
Obviously, if you're talking 1990's country especially, the quality was quite good, with a lot of really big stars. Even Shania was huge, with crossover, in the early 2000's.
Yes, this is confusing, and both had previous Hot AC formats. That’s where the comparison ends, but in the case of WCLI, the ratings aren’t that great when they’re up against the dominant WHKO (owned by Cox) and WZDA (owned by iHeart and formerly Alternative), whose ratings are higher than WCLI. Not only that, it’s a flanker for sister Rhythmic WDHT and Adult R&B sibling WROU (see WHKO), so time will tell if what works in Dayton can work in Seattle.
That's primarily what they're playing. Mostly 90s with some early 2000s.
Didn't CBS used to owned both Country stations KMPS 94.1 and KYCW 96.5 back in the mid 90s to early 2000s?
Website has replaced the landing page.
I've found the best way to stay on his good side is to never, ever venture an opinion that radio or music was better 30+ years ago, or get into long discussions of 60-year-old songs by people who've been dead for 30 years.
I find that Kelly really doesn’t like to discuss topics that are unrelated to people who work in radio, and the business decisions that happen behind closed doors. So that means, wild speculation and discussion about signal strength are usually not something he likes to debate. I don’t mind discussing signal strength and unrelated topics, but I can see how those topics can clutter the Seattle specific forum.
He’s actually very helpful and more than willing to discuss other topics on the various other Radio Discussions boards though. I’m not an engineer, but I feel like he’s taught me an insane amount about how engineering works. I appreciate his help!
As a side note, I do see how the radio pros can become frustrated when people who don’t have a broadcasting background speculate. I am far from a pro, but I have had a chance to work in the business. That experience definitely helped me mature and not speculate wildly about what could happen, or care so much about signal strength related topics.
As a side note, I do see how the radio pros can become frustrated when people who don’t have a broadcasting background speculate.
You mean we can't just read a Wikipedia page and suddenly become and expert on radio broadcasting. And no I've never worked in radio, though I had dreams in high school of being a DJ. I will say I've learned a ton on this board that makes me extremely dangerous. LOL.
You mean we can't just read a Wikipedia page and suddenly become and expert on radio broadcasting. And no I've never worked in radio, though I had dreams in high school of being a DJ. I will say I've learned a ton on this board that makes me extremely dangerous. LOL.
Same here. I'm a print guy, 40+ years in the newspaper business, but radio has been my favorite pastime since I was six or seven years old. A good part of the reason I chose to pursue the newspaper curriculum rather than the radio/television curriculum in college was that, deep down, I thought radio was way too easy and too much fun to be a career. Work should be work.
True story, I used to post all of the time on this forum when I was a high school kid with no knowledge of radio other than what I had researched online. Nonetheless, I still thought I knew a lot because I was a radio geek and aspired to work in the business. I got my rear end kicked on this board, and then I went into the business and got my rear end kicked by the school of hard knocks. I do see why they get annoyed lol
I will be the first to admit that some people here frustrate me with that, too. Having said that, I also remember that I was once a "stupid kid" on the FIDONet Broadcasting Echo. While there were some knowledgeable people who wished I would just go away (and a couple even reached out privately when doing so cost money to tell me exactly that), I learned a lot from those who were willing to talk to me.
My radio career didn't end up going anywhere in the end, but I got to do it for almost ten years. I'm probably paying the price for it now as I look at my 401K and Roth IRA and see I have far less money pushing 50 than my friends from high school who got real jobs after college, but I had a lot of fun while it lasted. If the next generation doesn't have any stupid kids willing to get on here and ask questions, this business has no future.
Thanks for sharing that! I’m glad you said this. I never committed myself fully to radio. Despite spending seven years playing the game, I was a full time student at the time and still had another job on the side. Even still, my experiences over those seven years absolutely shaped who I am now (even if I did end up kicking my own rear end in the process with sleep deprivation and stress).
Honestly, I would advise anyone with an interest not to shy away from asking the pros. I would just recommend that they do some research first and don’t go to into the conversation totally blind. And please, for the love of god, listen. I used to be a huge know-it-all. I got humbled real quick.
I remember those call letters on the frequency, but had forgotten what the format was prior to it becoming Top 40 as "The FM KVI". In a way, it is funny that when the Singing Cowboy (Gene Autry) bought the station, it dumped country music.
Jack FM didn’t exist in 1999. It didn't show up in the US until either ‘03 or ‘04. It arrived in Canada first. Young Country became “The Point” first (in '99). Might’ve even had another format between The Point and Jack FM.
Infinity quickly spun KYCW to EZ after buying Alliance only to get it back a couple years later after CBS bought American Radio Systems, which had purchased EZ.
Well, it looks like you got to work in your dream field for 10 years, as opposed to working in a field you grow to hate, like some of my college friends, who ended up working jobs where all they do is bitch and complain about them, bitch and complain about their bosses, bitch and complain about the hours, good money aside. I worked for a few months shy of 20 years in radio and although -- looking back -- I didn't make enough money, at least I worked in the field I always wanted to work in since I was a kid, with great people I still miss hanging with. Not that many can claim that.
Would I trade all that for the money? That's a good question.
I also worked for a year in newspapers. Most of those people were cool, too. Paid less than radio did.
RE: the business having a future: it's highly probable that within 20 years the business will be various music and talk channels on the 5-6 already dominant streaming platforms. But yeah, if young people aren't interested, that's just going to speed along the inevitable.
I forgot about the Point. Thanks for the correction here.
And K-Rock between Point and Jack.
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