Bounce was moved to KPXN 30.5 last week (May 5th) The Scripps News feed on Ch 64 may be a placeholder, with Scripps LA hoping they can secure full season rights to either Kings or Ducks Hockey or Clippers Basketball. Depending of course on what Ballys Sports will actually bring to the table with what cash they actually have.
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KILM 64 "Bounces" to Scripps News.
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K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
It has never made sense to me that Bounce was on the 30/64 signal (technically channel 24) since that network has been on KMEX 34.3 pretty much since its launch.
Related: Did anyone besides me notice that KDOC's new Christian owners kicked Sinclair's Comet and Charge! channels off a couple of weeks ago? Charge! is now on KABC 7.3 and Comet is on KCAL 9.3 ... also, a few months back KDOC 56.3 switched from being an independent feed of MeTV to a simulcast of network-owned KAZA 54.1, all of which makes me wonder if they are getting rid of any and all secular programming.
Sinclair had signed a distribution agreement with ABC to put Charge on their O&O'. I'm not sure why Comet was moved unless CBS scooped that net up for some of its stations.
These posts show a lack of understanding about how subchannel network affiliations work. The way it works is that the subchannel network, wanting carriage, writes a check. The station, having capacity to carry that subchannel, agrees to the amount and deposits the check. The programming is then aired.
So, Charge! and Comet, having secured better affiliations (I'd guess with cable carriage) by writing checks to ABC and CBS, no longer needed to write separate checks to KDOC, on which it presumably did not have cable carriage. Thus, the programming was removed from KDOC. Nothing to do with who owns KDOC, and nothing to do with CBS "scooping up" an affiliation. CBS had space available, Sinclair was willing to write a check of appropriate size to fill the space, and Sinclair did not need to write two checks.
I've seen several people in recent weeks speculating on minor differences in MeTV branding on individual stations to try to read the future in them. Occam's Razor suggests the answer is simply that they've tweaked/modified branding. I doubt there's 11-dimensional chess going on here, sneaking clues into top-of-hour IDs and whatnot like a mystery novel.
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K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
It's not that I don't know how the process works, Trip. I did say it "makes me wonder" if Radiant Life Ministries didn't nudge those changes into taking place. You know how those religious broadcasters are when it comes to secular programming.
TCT (parent of RLM) owns many stations and most of them have secular networks which they added themselves. See, for example, WAQP which has been owned by TCT for most of its existence but airs six secular networks plus a channel of infomercials.
- Trip
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
I stand corrected, my friend.
U forgot the Angels baseball but I would wanna see a new indie to pick up not just local sports but some syndies that are aren't available in the LA market like talk shows like Kamaro and Steve Wilkos; some syndies from rival groups like from Byron Allen along with Tegna's Daily Blast Live, Gray's InvestigateTV+, Hearst's Matter of Fact, and Sinclair's Full Measure; and some several sitcoms that are once aired on KDOC, KCAL, and KCOP.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
Darren, I think that if such a schedule was feasible and profitable, KDOC would have implemented it instead of selling. (Heaven knows they tried everything else in 40+ years of operation.)
And if KDOC couldn't make it work after all this time, I doubt any other station in the market would attempt it. Such is the nature of the business ... anyone with a station will be thinking "Why should I do what channel 56 did? Look where it got them!"
And if KDOC couldn't make it work after all this time, I doubt any other station in the market would attempt it. Such is the nature of the business ... anyone with a station will be thinking "Why should I do what channel 56 did? Look where it got them!"
It lasted 14 years between 2008-2022, also it was Ellis sold the station to TCT and some of the syndies was sold to other stations. Scripps does respond to the removal of RSNs on Dish, Sling, YouTubeTV and Hulu+Live TV by picking up some local sports on their local stations at least going back to the past when cable was emerging in the 80s and 90s. I would be surprising if KCAL or KCOP might bid also for the most of the teams except for the Lakers, Dodgers, and Sparks all in a JV with Charter under the Spectrum Sportsnet brand.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
But it originally signed on in late 1982 (October 1, according to the 1986 Broadcasting Yearbook). Where did you get the mistaken idea that their history only dates from 2008?
As it converted as an independent station without the classic shows.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
By definition, any television station without a network affiliation is an "independent". Back in the day, channels 5, 9, 11 and 13 all ran off-network reruns and were classified as such.
Your definition is contrary to the industry understanding of the term. In fact, somewhere around here I have an old TV Guide from that period which lists KDOC as (Ind.).
Your definition is contrary to the industry understanding of the term. In fact, somewhere around here I have an old TV Guide from that period which lists KDOC as (Ind.).
DABL is on WLLA I think DT6 and on also on WOTV DT4 was on DT2 before that became The CW in Jan of 2024. Which is on Spectrum CH: 180 was CH: 192 but deleted when it became The CW. I don't get why DABL is paying 2 TV stations for the same network and also WLLA is a godster TV channel.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
What market are you talking about? KILM is in Los Angeles.
Kalamazoo/Battle Creek, apparently. The markets are similar to Los Angeles in that both are populated by humans.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
Has it occurred to you that KDOC bailed out because there is no audience for a broadcast independent television station such as you describe in Los Angeles?
If this was the solution, why didn't KDOC adopt it instead of selling out to a religious broadcaster?
Technically the station is owned by the Ion Media division of Scripps, so they might pick up the Ion network. (co-owned KPXN also runs it)
Scripps is currently in the process of selling Bounce:
Scripps Sees Progress Towards Selling Off Bounce TV Network
Company reports $13 million loss for second quarter
With the shutdown of Scripps News and the sale of Bounce, Scripps can concentrate resources on growing Scripps Sports.
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And here we full circle, less than a year later and after a few months of Laffs, Scripps has put Bounce back on KILM 64.1 -- so, I guess the sale is off, at least for now?
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