That’s exactly my point. Even Green Day and The Offspring are core KEGL bands at this point. Whether they should is up for discussion and interpretation but that’s the reality.
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let's sum up the current rock stations in Dallas and their target demos
KXT 91.7 (KKXT): Triple A Indie Rock stations that caters to hipsters who range from Gen Xers to Gen Zers.
KZPS Lone Star 92.5: Classic Rock that caters to Boomers and Gen-Xers as well as some Millennials
KEGL 97.1 The Eagle: Mainstream Rock that mixes classics with newer stuff, caters to younger Gen-Xers, Millennials and Gen Zers.
KVIL Alt 103.7: Alternative Rock that focuses on mostly Millennials and Gen Zers, may play some stuff to try to get Gen Xers to turn in too.
So pretty much that, i think since i'm in my late 30s, i lean on Millennial as i was born in 1985 and some would say i am in that group.
KXT 91.7 (KKXT): Triple A Indie Rock stations that caters to hipsters who range from Gen Xers to Gen Zers.
KZPS Lone Star 92.5: Classic Rock that caters to Boomers and Gen-Xers as well as some Millennials
KEGL 97.1 The Eagle: Mainstream Rock that mixes classics with newer stuff, caters to younger Gen-Xers, Millennials and Gen Zers.
KVIL Alt 103.7: Alternative Rock that focuses on mostly Millennials and Gen Zers, may play some stuff to try to get Gen Xers to turn in too.
So pretty much that, i think since i'm in my late 30s, i lean on Millennial as i was born in 1985 and some would say i am in that group.
That looks like a good description of the situation, although I find that the median age for both AAA and Classic Rock is 50, while the median age for mainstream rock is 43. Alternative median is 40. But 25% of alternative is 55+. The most male of the four stations is mainstream rock with 65%. 40% of the AAA audience is 55+. Which is why so many AAA stations are non-commercial.
This move now feels like it was done to protect 92.5
Nobody is targeting Baby Boomers anymore. They are all 60+ now.
The playlist on KEGL is mostly tolerable with a few exceptions.
For example, Under the Bridge and Champaign Supernova??
Surely research doesnt indicate that those songs belong on KEGL in its current manifestation.
For example, Under the Bridge and Champaign Supernova??
Surely research doesnt indicate that those songs belong on KEGL in its current manifestation.
Pearl Jam has had 43 songs on the rock charts.
Linkin Park has had 23 songs on the rock charts.
Papa Roach has had 30 songs on the rock charts.
Of COURSE they're going to share artists.
I can tell by listening they're fine tuning the music still. It's getting better. They still need to strip the 80's and 70's completely out.
Please tell me you didn't hear Champagne Supernova on Eagle.
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He did, @Kramer. So have I. The Verve's Bittersweet Symphony, too. A couple of songs that, imo, have no business in the rotation of 97.1.
Why not? Both were big hits in both Mainstream Rock and Alterative
Using your basis of being chart hits, it fits the format.
Once again: No radio format will ever satisfy everyone 100% of the time.
I’ve been hearing “oh wow” old songs from the 90s I hadn’t heard in forever only to have the vibe killed by Led Zeppelin; like “Stinkfist” by Tool and “Rearranged” by Limp Bizkit. I like Led Zeppelin, but they belong on KZPS. I guess it is a bit of a throwback to the 90s when The Eagle started mixing in classic rock, which I put up with when on the way to Dallas until I got close enough to pick up The Edge. At least they’re not playing KISS, LOL. But overall, I’m enjoying most of what they’re playing.
Lets take the past hour and zoom in.
THIS is exactly what killed the Eagle the last time. Maybe this is a dayparting issue. I don't know.
BLUR peaked at #25 on the Rock charts. Why would you play that out of all the major - bigger alt records that MAY could cross over?
The SUM 41 song didn't chart at all on the rock charts. It shouldn't even have been a thought.
Twenty One Pilots - barely broke the rock charts. This song comes on and the average Eagle listener is GONE! It will only allow me to post 5 pics, but it topped at #38.
THIS is exactly what killed the Eagle the last time. Maybe this is a dayparting issue. I don't know.
BLUR peaked at #25 on the Rock charts. Why would you play that out of all the major - bigger alt records that MAY could cross over?
The SUM 41 song didn't chart at all on the rock charts. It shouldn't even have been a thought.
Twenty One Pilots - barely broke the rock charts. This song comes on and the average Eagle listener is GONE! It will only allow me to post 5 pics, but it topped at #38.
Let me repeat for those who missed it before:
Over 100 of the country's top active rock stations are playing the Blur song, including WMMR in Philadelphia and KISW in Seattle.
Over 70 active rock stations around the country are playing Fat Lip, including WXTB in Tampa.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it shouldn't get played.
You can repeat it a thousand times and I will repeat what I've said a thousand times, and that is if you don't KNOW the Eagle and the audience, then you don't know what you're talking about.
I revert back to - this is what killed The Eagle before it became the FREAK - and now it's changed back and there are flashes of the same old Eagle - with a 2.5 share. WHY WOULD YOU DO THE SAME THING?
Furthermore, if your main competition is Alternative, why on EARTH would you play this crap? Same goes for all the old stuff like Zepplin. If KZPS is playing it and is doing well, why repeat it?
If you have 200,000 cume, whay would you play ONE SINGLE SONG an hour that's iffy? You want that TSL on LOCK, and with this past hour's music, the odds that people stick around are about the same as a Kardashian sticking around at a Keith Wallen concert.
I revert back to - this is what killed The Eagle before it became the FREAK - and now it's changed back and there are flashes of the same old Eagle - with a 2.5 share. WHY WOULD YOU DO THE SAME THING?
Furthermore, if your main competition is Alternative, why on EARTH would you play this crap? Same goes for all the old stuff like Zepplin. If KZPS is playing it and is doing well, why repeat it?
If you have 200,000 cume, whay would you play ONE SINGLE SONG an hour that's iffy? You want that TSL on LOCK, and with this past hour's music, the odds that people stick around are about the same as a Kardashian sticking around at a Keith Wallen concert.
In your opinion. Radio is not a history lesson. Radio is not about what charted 25 years ago. It's about what is working in the format now. If you look at other stations that have the same heritage as KEGL, you get a good picture of what the current audience likes. Unless you have better research based on more than your opinion, I'm going with what some top rated stations are doing.
I'm starting with the assumption that the Eagle audience that you knew is GONE. They've been gone a long time. They get their music elsewhere. They're not coming back. Ever. This station is starting from scratch. Zero. The bottom. They're not going to bring back the past. The past is over. Those people won't sit through Woody or Ben & Skin. That's the current reality.
Because there are 500 other songs that KZPS isn't playing that people will hear on KEGL. This is how Pandora and Spotify work. If you like this. you might also like this.
KEGL's main competition is NOT alternative. You have to let that idea go. This station is a harder, edgier version of KZPS. There are people who like KZPS, but also want a few currents and a few less commercial things. They don't like Styx or Kansas. So you won't hear Styx or Kansas on KEGL.
It's hard having to say this over and over.
Example: I have a "favorites" playlist. Yet every time I pull it up, I'll skip about one out of every three or four songs. The ones I skip are different every time. So not only do we have preferences and dislikes, we have moods that determine which songs and styles we want to hear at any given moment.
Years ago, I was trading in my car and was looking for a specific model and color. They had the model, but it was not my choice color. It was the end of the prior model year, so I could not order the color I liked. The sales manager said, "I'm not running a museum here. If you move your color choice, I'll move my price a lot".
Point: radio is as good as the last song you played. It does not matter a wink how much you liked it 20 years ago. Do you want to hear it now?
If not, get rid of it... just like the dealer did with that car!
And that is the best point of all. It is not about the overlap. Many songs fit more than one format. It is about the songs that are the core to a station and make up the vast majority of the "plays" each hour and in each set.
Going back some decades, the AC station played some REO Speedwagon but that did not make it a rock station. And when they played Manilow and the Carpenters, you knew it was not!
At least the eagle hasn’t played all American rejects like they used to
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