Others have reported issues, and the citation in the Wikipedia article on TV Guides for his site notes "usurped". I haven't been able to track down WHOIS information to see if a domain squatter got that name. I hope that's not the case.
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That would really be looking for a needle in a haystack. I remember the Nashville large edition. It included Bowling Green as well.
It would have made much sense to merge the Nashville and Evansville-Paducah editions. The only channel duplication would have been two channel 8s, WSIU and WDCN, and two channel 13s, WBKO and WCEE, easily resolved by using different channel bullets. WBBJ-7 Jackson TN could also have been included, but then you would have a duplicate channel with WTVW-7 (easily resolved as well by giving them different channel bullets).
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That's because KLEW's OTA carriage is limited to Moscow/Pullman, Lewiston/Clarkston, and the Camas Prairie. They had translators in Grangeville, Orofino, and maybe a couple of other small towns. There would be no need for KLEW in a Utah-Idaho TV Guide that has KTVB, KBCI, and the other Boise/Twin Falls stations. Those signals could not be received in the Camas Prairie or further north anyway.
I wonder if TV Guide supplied the eastern WA edition for the Cle Elum and Easton convenience stores/grocery stores...or the Western Washington state edition instead. Seattle was the default market for upper Kittitas County until the 2000s. Cable has been around in Cle Elum since the '50s and there were a few VHF translators around for ch 4/5/7 until the 1990s. Now there are ZERO Seattle TV stations available on cable in Cle Elum. All Yakima, with news coverage that rarely covers the area. KOMO 4 had better news coverage of the Jolly Mountain Fire in 2017 than any of the Yakima/Tri TV stations.
I love looking at my 1977 Montana TV Guide because it's insane - so many markets and so many VHF channels...there were zero UHF channels (full-power) in the state until 1986 when KTGF 16 signed on in Great Falls.
Eastern WA's TV Guide never carried KSKN 22 when it returned to general entertainment programming in 1997. It was probably in the Spokane edition, however.
I love looking at the articles in each of the TV Guides I find, especially those in the '70s and early '80s...some GREAT stuff, even covering the behind-the-scenes aspects of television. The Robert Blake issue from 1977 has an article about a small desert town in California where the nearest TV station was 150 miles away and they tried everything to get a translator up for it...with little success. I think it was Trona, CA. It talked about life in this small town and how residents travel many miles to get together and watch television shows.
Superior MT (50 miles west of Missoula) had WXYZ, WDIV, WJBK and WTVS available on cable from 1987-1990. KPAX and KECI also carried off-air. Those went away and only ABC/PBS were out-of-market after 1990, via KUSA and KRMA (later KMGH, KRMA).
Wouldn't have been Essex, would it? I vaguely remember something, based upon this NYT article I just found:
Town of 50 That Doesn't Have TV Isn't Certain That's a Bad Thing (Published 1976)
To have a translator, you would have to be able to get a signal to begin with.
I'm pretty sure the article was on Trona CA. The nearest station that they tried to pick up was KBLU-TV in Yuma, which later became KSWT. Los Angeles was way too far and blocked by mountains.
The article mentioned that the translator could pick up weak audio but often would not get any video.
I bet you they ran for the C-Band dishes when they first came out.
I have another TV Guide from 1983 that has a great article on NBC's daytime show 'Fantasy', which was all about making dreams comes true. It detailed the task of going through the thousands of entries and finding just a few they could put on camera...and the behind-the-scenes preparation all the way up to the big moment. Peter Marshall, Leslie Uggams and Glenn Scarpelli co-hosted.
I can tell the TV Guide articles got 'fluffy' by the turn of the '90s. I think of it as how Entertainment Tonight was in the first 5-6 years with Ron Hendren and Mary Hart (and later John Tesh). The original format had segments that went behind-the-scenes and into the business and technical aspects of television and the movies...then it slowly went to gossip.
The article mentioned that the translator could pick up weak audio but often would not get any video.
I bet you they ran for the C-Band dishes when they first came out.
I have another TV Guide from 1983 that has a great article on NBC's daytime show 'Fantasy', which was all about making dreams comes true. It detailed the task of going through the thousands of entries and finding just a few they could put on camera...and the behind-the-scenes preparation all the way up to the big moment. Peter Marshall, Leslie Uggams and Glenn Scarpelli co-hosted.
I can tell the TV Guide articles got 'fluffy' by the turn of the '90s. I think of it as how Entertainment Tonight was in the first 5-6 years with Ron Hendren and Mary Hart (and later John Tesh). The original format had segments that went behind-the-scenes and into the business and technical aspects of television and the movies...then it slowly went to gossip.
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You've got my curiosity up. I actually ordered this edition on eBay just now. Any excuse to try and restore my lost TVG collection, issue by issue. I ordered the edition for Austin TX, there was also a Western NY edition, would have been more interesting, but it was a few dollars more. Anything I get, I'm going to have to get on the cheap.
I found still more resources on old TVG archives:
https://archive.org/details/vintage-tv-guides/TV Guide 1965-01-16 Northern CA/
TV Guide Collection : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
After several tries I was finally able to find it on Ebay and it should be in soon.
This edition (Buffalo Metropolitan) also has French-language program descriptions, for CBLFT-25 Toronto:
TV Guide Collection : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
I have to suspect that it was just easier to list them that way (taken from a kind of database), rather than it being any attempt to cater to French-speaking TVG readers (as I had thought with the Vermont edition). I don't think there are any French-speaking communities in Western New York.
TV Guide Collection : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
I have to suspect that it was just easier to list them that way (taken from a kind of database), rather than it being any attempt to cater to French-speaking TVG readers (as I had thought with the Vermont edition). I don't think there are any French-speaking communities in Western New York.
I wouldn't have held out much hope for that, but congratulations!After several tries I was finally able to find it on Ebay and it should be in soon.
French is the second most widely taught foreign language in the U.S. (after Spanish).
I realize that, though how many students actually retain any meaningful knowledge of French after they've taken it, especially in high school, is another matter entirely. My point was that perhaps in northern Vermont, there are bilingual households where viewers would want to see the program descriptions (not just the titles) in French, but then again, anyone watching these channels, in Vermont, Buffalo, or what have you, would presumably know French to begin with.
Bottom line, it was kind of bizarre to see program descriptions in French, in a US TV Guide.
I'm pretty sure that was simply the way the US database providers handled CBLFT (and CBFT, CKSH, CBOFT, etc) for newspapers and other listings that carried them.
CBLFT was on cable here in Rochester in the early 1980s, until about 1983. I don't recall it being listed in our TVG edition, but it was in the newspaper and on the Prevue guide and those listings were all in French.
I don't know why it was carried other than being usually the strongest Toronto signal over the air here (maybe for NHL games?), but there's no significant Francophone population here or in Buffalo to speak of. And I don't recall CBLFT ever being on Buffalo cable.
Speaking of French stations, I don't recall CBEFT ever appearing in the Detroit TV Guide or any of the newspapers. CBEFT likely had very few viewers as Windsor's almost monolingually English and in the Detroit/Windsor area (overall), it's likely Arabic and Spanish have more native speakers than French.
That city was Amboy, CA. It was in the May 28, 1977 edition under the title "Will 50 Bedsprings Finally Bring TV to Amboy, Cal.? I used to occasionally save articles from TV Guide when I was I was a young nerdling and actually have that one.
Fantastic! Any chance you could scan the article for us when you get a chance?
If the moderators don't mind my reproducing an entire TVG article, certainly. Is it okay to do that? Fair use?
I would have sworn the article was about Essex CA, but that's been almost 50 years ago, so I could be having a false memory, or could be conflating it with another article I read.