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Good Karma To Lease 880; WCBS News Programming To End

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Still have channel 2, WCBS-TV.

At some point, don’t the non CBS owned radio stations need to change their heritage CBS/Westinghouse call letters especially if the CBS owned tv stations use them? WCBS, WINS, KYW, WBZ, KDKA, etc. Wasn’t that spelled out in the sale?
 
Still have channel 2, WCBS-TV.

At some point, don’t the non CBS owned radio stations need to change their heritage CBS/Westinghouse call letters especially if the CBS owned tv stations use them? WCBS, WINS, KYW, WBZ, KDKA, etc. Wasn’t that spelled out in the sale?
That was something like a 20-year deal, so it's not an issue for another dozen years or more. By then there might not even be radio the way we currently know it. And it's possible whoever owns CBS in 2037 will be happy to take a payment to kick the can down the road another decade or two.
 
USA Radio News shutdown? Didn't know that. What I noticed was for around 3 weeks our Classic Hits Station in Suburban Hartford (96.1/990) was running the same 1 minute newscast from USA Radio everyday/every hour. Then all of a sudden the newscast just disappeared.

Yeah, apparently no one bothered to tell affiliates or the distributor, or both.
 
I have been listening to CBS on AM and more recently, FMHD for a while now.

I was thinking about this myself earlier. I've listened to WCBS since I was in high school. Since long before I ever dreamed I might live in NYC one day. Since before there was internet streaming, because it was one of the strongest nighttime AM signals wherever I lived as I moved around the East. It has been one of my AM radio presets forever. Then, when I moved to New York and people still woke up to clock radios, WCBS became my morning wake up station and it has remained that way, even as tech has evolved and I started listening to it on FM HD-2 and Alexa. I would say WCBS has been around in my life longer than any other radio station, so this one really hurts.

Will I survive listening to WINS? I'm not sure. The stations have very different personalities (not people but approaches).

WCBS is/was a very personality-driven radio station as opposed to the much more one-dimensional, rip-&-read, just-the-facts type of presentation on WINS. Many WCBS listeners say the people they heard on that station felt like their friends. The social media pages for the staffers that got axed are filled with comments from listeners who are distraught about it, some saying it feels like a death in the family.

I don't think Audacy is going to change anything at WINS. The entire WCBS airstaff has been terminated and it's clear that's been Audacy's plan for a long time. WINS sounds the way they want it to sound and there's no indication they are going to incorporate anything from WCBS onto that station. Some of the WCBS personalities will inevitably end up elsewhere in the NYC media landscape or perhaps even a national platform. Others may take the retirement payout and call it a career. That will be a real loss, in my opinion.
 
Sid Rosenberg is what I call a Tireless Self Promoter. He's taking credit for the changes at WCBS:


The last time we saw comparative morning show numbers (2022), WCBS was beating Sid:


This chart is based on cume, not share. So perhaps that's what he's referring to. It doesn't matter. In his head, he beats everyone.
sid rosenberg try to shut up for 5 seconds challenge (impossible)
 
It's an affiliation issue being addressed by SkyView Networks. Obviously SkyView wants to retain its NYC affiliation. They have a contract with Audacy New York. WINS has an ABC News Radio affiliation. As I said earlier, WTOP in DC is affiliated with both. So it's possible Audacy will transfer the CBS News affiliation to WINS. But it's doubtful they will air all of the TOH as WCBS did.
WINS currently has an affiliation with CBS News in addition to ABC News. They run packages, features, etc, but with the "CBS News" identifier stripped out of the lockout.
 
Among those looking for work is longtime NYC newsperson Anita Bonita

If SiriusXM really wanted to offer something new and noteworthy they could grab that whole WCBS team and start their own top-tier radio all-news channel that's not just a TV cable news audio feed.

Would it attract older listeners? Yes.
Are they the ones who will pay for radio? Yes.
 
If SiriusXM really wanted to offer something new and noteworthy they could grab that whole WCBS team and start their own top-tier radio all-news channel

I was thinking it's more something for Cats. Everyone wants him to spend money on 98.7, but he could improve the quality of WABC with these people.

For Sirius, they would have to do national news, and that requires different resources.
 
I was thinking it's more something for Cats. Everyone wants him to spend money on 98.7, but he could improve the quality of WABC with these people.
Cats is in the business of pushing disinformation and a far right agenda on WABC. There is no way any of that team would be a good fit.

For Sirius, they would have to do national news, and that requires different resources.

Sirius has to nationalize all of its formats, nothing new there. The content would need to be tailored accordingly but the resources needed to do news would essentially be the same. Some of the reporters would need to be based in DC, and probably one in L.A. instead of everyone in the NYC metro.
 
Some of the reporters would need to be based in DC, and probably one in L.A. instead of everyone in the NYC metro.

There are a lot of unemployed CBS news radio people around the country. Not just in NY. The way Sirius works is they subcontract some of their channels out to production companies. Steven Van Zandt does a bunch of music channels. The artist channels are subcontracted. Those companies manage and deliver the channels. So that's how it would likely have to work.
 
There are a lot of unemployed CBS news radio people around the country. Not just in NY. The way Sirius works is they subcontract some of their channels out to production companies. Steven Van Zandt does a bunch of music channels. The artist channels are subcontracted. Those companies manage and deliver the channels. So that's how it would likely have to work.

A good, real all-news channel is the only major format that's missing from SXM's lineup. As a talk station, it could carry spots too.

Stern won't be around forever and SXM should be thinking of as many other ways as possible to retain its audience in the long run. Could they jump on this opportunity? It's an interesting fantasy if nothing else.
 
A good, real all-news channel is the only major format that's missing from SXM's lineup. As a talk station, it could carry spots too.

Stern won't be around forever and SXM should be thinking of as many other ways as possible to retain its audience in the long run. Could they jump on this opportunity? It's an interesting fantasy if nothing else.
It's losing subscribers and advertising is in a deep depression. Putting together a fully staffed news operation is far beyond its means.
 
I was thinking about this myself earlier. I've listened to WCBS since I was in high school. Since long before I ever dreamed I might live in NYC one day. Since before there was internet streaming, because it was one of the strongest nighttime AM signals wherever I lived as I moved around the East. It has been one of my AM radio presets forever. Then, when I moved to New York and people still woke up to clock radios, WCBS became my morning wake up station and it has remained that way, even as tech has evolved and I started listening to it on FM HD-2 and Alexa. I would say WCBS has been around in my life longer than any other radio station, so this one really hurts.



WCBS is/was a very personality-driven radio station as opposed to the much more one-dimensional, rip-&-read, just-the-facts type of presentation on WINS. Many WCBS listeners say the people they heard on that station felt like their friends. The social media pages for the staffers that got axed are filled with comments from listeners who are distraught about it, some saying it feels like a death in the family.

I don't think Audacy is going to change anything at WINS. The entire WCBS airstaff has been terminated and it's clear that's been Audacy's plan for a long time. WINS sounds the way they want it to sound and there's no indication they are going to incorporate anything from WCBS onto that station. Some of the WCBS personalities will inevitably end up elsewhere in the NYC media landscape or perhaps even a national platform. Others may take the retirement payout and call it a career. That will be a real loss, in my opinion.
Thanks and I agree with you about do much - I grew up listening because my parents had it on in the car but I stuck with it because it reminded me of home so when I drove back from college, I knew I was getting there when I could pick up 88 on my radio dial. Some of the off the cuff jokes I heard, the banter, the sense of conversation, and when someone screwed up a line, the playful joking and teasing. 1010 was just 22 minutes of clickety clack fake wire printers. No character to it. And since I have only a reg'lar ol' radio in the car (granted, HD) I am still an avid radio listener.

I have noticed that some 1010 people have been working at 880 also and (for example) Ashok Bhalla has been much looser on 1010 recently.
 
By the way, when did WINS discontinue the teletype sound? The station sounds so boring without it.
They had been reducing the volume of it little by little over the years until it was barely audible, but it went away when the announcers started working from home during COVID in 2020. For a while, you could tell who was actually in the studio, because the teletype sound would suddenly return during their shift. But eventually WINS dumped it entirely, even in-studio.

Now if you listen closely, WINS actually has a bit of stereo reverb on their audio!
 
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