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AM Radio is dying

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Jeopardy question: What hurt radio more than the internet?
Answer: Docket 80-90
No, the internet hands down. Radio was still making some money in the 2000's, after Docket 80-90 was in effect. The rise of internet streaming and online advertising and commerce did more damage. Instead of a small market having 15-20 choices for listeners (radio stations), now the listeners had hundreds of choices online. Same thing with choices for advertisers.

And two or three recessions (2000, 2008, 2020), of course, didn't help.
 
Heh, maybe the print editions can keep themselves viable a little while longer by having Amazon's delivery trucks throw them at our houses at 4 AM from now on, instead of their own drivers.
Starting next week I am getting mine by mail. Several papers in my area have already done this, and all papers owned by the company that owns my paper seem to be doing this. I haven't heard about another co-owned paper but if Charlotte, with one million people, can go to three days a week, I guess it's inevitable in the smaller markets.
 
The irony is that all of the changes in music recording technology happened during your lifetime. Starting with things like multi-track recording in the 50s. The music made then was processed to sound good on AM radio.
I'm not sure what this means exactly, but Serenade Radio, which I listen to online, has a lot of music recorded before those changes in recording and the man who runs the station, also one of the DJs, occasionally complains about the poor sound quality (his specialty is complaining). Although sometimes when he does this it's because it was a 78. I'm just wondering if there are better quality recordings from that era, but I've learned to expect they won't sound good, even if the music is.
 
No one publishes obituaries in newspapers anymore unless it's a famous person who gets on in the NY or LA Times.

They do it online. There are online sites for that now. It's the same thing with wedding announcements. That's a thing of the past.

Newspapers have outlived their usefulness for a lot of things that they were important for providing in the previous century.
The Charlotte Observer has obituaries. Most of them are in Sunday's paper and you have to pay.

As for famous people, the Observer does a poor job of publishing those obituaries, at least in print. For a year or so they had half page of obituaries for famous people on Sunday but they quit.
 
Starting next week I am getting mine by mail. Several papers in my area have already done this, and all papers owned by the company that owns my paper seem to be doing this. I haven't heard about another co-owned paper but if Charlotte, with one million people, can go to three days a week, I guess it's inevitable in the smaller markets.
Don't sell your market short. Charlotte has nearly 2.8 Million people in the metro area.
 
Don't sell your market short. Charlotte has nearly 2.8 Million people in the metro area.
And a good proportion of them are transplants from "rust belt" cities who moved to Charlotte in the late 80's and the 90's. It hard to find a family in Buffalo that does not have relatives living in Charlotte.
 
So, if you look at the similarity of formats on AM at night, it's probably got more variety now than it did in 1980.
Maybe in formats, but not in overall variety.
In the 80s and 90s, there were good local hosts at night, hosting music, trivia shows, general interest, not only politics.
Today, it's the same boring Dave Ramseys and right-wing The Dems are always wrong! daytime show reruns.

KRLD 1080 clear channel had shows like "Music Rewind" or something, discussion of a music artist, say Donovan, from the 60s or 70s. Today, flaccid Dave Ramsey reruns.
 
Don't sell your market short. Charlotte has nearly 2.8 Million people in the metro area.
Good clarification.

While governments work on cities and counties, the economy works on "markets" made up of lots of cities and counties in an adjacent area. In radio, a "city" is just a name for a market. And the "market" is always one or more counties* that depend on the local media of the area for service.

I mention this for about the 100th incident of redundancy because we have many RadioDiscussions users who are listeners but not involved with the business of radio. And in the business, we think "markets" and not arbitrary political boundaries.

* A very few markets have a portion of a county, such as a piece of one CT county in the NYC radio metro survey area or Worcester, MA, where the county is split between Boston MSA and the Worcester (city name) MSA.
 
Maybe in formats, but not in overall variety.
In the 80s and 90s, there were good local hosts at night, hosting music, trivia shows, general interest, not only politics.
And a huge percentage of listeners don't want "good local hosts". Many of us want the equivalent of Johnny Carson or Jay Leno doing a national show with interesting guests and content rather than Bill Smith talking with the dog catcher from Grand Rapids. And many more don't want any talk, just the music.
Today, it's the same boring Dave Ramseys and right-wing The Dems are always wrong! daytime show reruns.
Yet in each individual market, there is only one Dave Ramsey or equivalent style of station and that station only gets an average of around a 5% share of audience and perhaps a 0.2 or 0.3 rating!
KRLD 1080 clear channel had shows like "Music Rewind" or something, discussion of a music artist, say Donovan, from the 60s or 70s. Today, flaccid Dave Ramsey reruns.
And if you ran any kind of music show on AM today you would get either a) no listeners or b) only listeners over 60 or so.
 
And a good proportion of them are transplants from "rust belt" cities who moved to Charlotte in the late 80's and the 90's. It hard to find a family in Buffalo that does not have relatives living in Charlotte.
But, if you were old enough to move in 1980, you are likely over 60... often much older... today. By this time, the rust belters only have memories of Trenton or Scranton or Akron or Gary and are culturally 100% of and about Charlotte.
 
I hate private equity.

They take any company they can get their hands on, gut it of any valuable assets, and turn it into a pale shadow of its former self.

For example:

If said company is, for example, a smallish, family-owned regional chain of retail tire shops and PE wants it, they will buy that company and all its assets by offering the original owners a price they can't refuse. Then, as part of their so-called "optimization", they will sell off the most valuable of those assets, such as real estate, for a quick profit to pay down any debt incurred by the purchase of the company (such as what usually happens in the course of a leveraged buyout), and rework whatever is left into a lean money making machine whose only purpose for being is to milk every customer to the greatest extent possible for the sole function of lining said PE executives' pockets.

Many employees deemed unnecessary will have been layed off, and whomever is left will be severely overworked, and in many cases underpaid. Virtually none of the money saved is reinvested into the company to improve whatever services or products they offer or to maintain in a safe and reasonable manner the buildings they reside in, quality takes a nosedive, the cosmetic, health and safety conditions of their stores deteriorates drastically, and those few remaining employees are demoralized and miserable due to being forced to work under such conditions.

Then, when the company's reputation is finally ruined, no longer has any customers and most of the remaining employees quit (or, perhaps the company gets sued because either a customer or employee got sick, injured and/or killed in an accident due to unsafe conditions, or the building is damaged or destroyed with the property owner(s) of said building is left holding the bag), the CE people shut down any physical operations at all stores, establish a holding company for any remaining intellectual property (branding) that they didn't already sell off (perhaps under a different name to mislead any lawyers or health and safety officials), and then make their money licensing said IP to the highest bidder(s) in perpetuity.

I may be a bit fuzzy on some of the details, but in my observations in following the slow but steady decline of once great companies like GE and, recently, Boeing, retail outlets like K-Mart, Sears, and innumerable others, and of course, Audacy, iHeart and many other big broadcasting/movie companies, some variation of this pattern unfortunately seems to applies to them all.

(Rant Mode off)

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That's a good descrip of today's business world: pump 'n dump.
Get the most $ for the shareholders, even sacrificing quality/employee safety.
Look at how railroad workers had to go to CONGRESS to get sick leave.
 
That's a good descrip of today's business world: pump 'n dump.
Get the most $ for the shareholders, even sacrificing quality/employee safety.
Look at how railroad workers had to go to CONGRESS to get sick leave.
It's been happening for at least a few decades. In the early nineties, a key supplier at my work was forced into chapter seven liquidation after the private equity firm that owned it had bled it dry through excessive management fees. They did this over the Christmas holidays, so when the employees came back on January 2 they found the place padlocked.

It was also my first day back after holiday break, and I still remember getting a call from their operations manager about an hour after I got in -- he called me from his home to tell me what happened.

I've had a pretty strong dislike for private equity firms every since.

(The story has a semi-happy ending -- another firm bought the pieces of the company out of bankruptcy, rehired much of the old staff and reassembled a new company. But the workers never did get their last paychecks from the previous company, and they also were unemployed for a period of time until the new company could be reassembled.)
 
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