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What's your Production DAW software of choice in 2024?

I'm sort of surprised that with over 100 veiws nobody has an opinion. Are you all still using tape??? Cutting lacquer?

So the back-story to the question is, I have clients using Win7 PCs with the old buy-out license for Adobe Audition on them. It's time for a PC upgrade, and for many (stupid) reasons they must move forward to the new Adobe licensing system, which is a license per user per PC, and just not workable. So it's hunt for an alternative to Audition that has a single license per PC, and a permanent buy-out plan.

Honestly, just looking for suggestions.
 
I liked Dalet at KQED, but I don’t know how popular it is. It was easy to learn how to use. Their website seems to say that it’s now a subscription product, like a lot of software is now.
 
Yeah, Adobe is one of the biggest drivers of the subscription culture bandwagon. Why just sell a product once when you can get people to pay for the same thing over and over again, every month, forever?

For the non-Apple crowd I've seen a lot of discussion about people moving over to Reaper but I haven't tried it myself. Audacity can get the job done in many cases, it might be all your clients need and it's free. I suspect that's the default at a lot of smaller stations that can't justify Adobe's subscription plan these days.

Following this thread as I'll be interested to read the other responses.
 
Theater of My Mind said:
Yeah, Adobe is one of the biggest drivers of the subscription culture bandwagon. Why just sell a product once when you can get people to pay for the same thing over and over again, every month, forever?
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This is especially frustrating when the piracy scene has fully working copies of their "cloud-based" subscription software suite available for traditional local installation. I checked one of the typical sources, and the Creative Cloud collection as of 07/29/2024 was readily available in downloadable, pre-activated form. Meanwhile, those who go the honest route don't even have the option of paying extra for boxed, non-subscription editions.

The only upside is that the alternatives continue improving and becoming more numerous. Also, older versions of products that are now subscription-only can still be used for almost all tasks because the basic premise of photo, audio, and video editing hasn't changed since their final non-subscription editions were released. For audio editing in particular, even Syntrillium's CoolEdit Pro 2.1 from 2003 is still a perfectly functional piece of software.
 
dc2bluelight said:
I'm sort of surprised that with over 100 veiws nobody has an opinion. Are you all still using tape??? Cutting lacquer?
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Ha! I like that response. You missed a step: Editing wire with a cigarette. But then there's Joe Tall, inventor of the EdiTall:


Like everyone else, I like Audition. I've looked at the updates, and they really can't improve on 1.5.

The previous poster mentioned CoolEdit, and that company was bought by Adobe and became Audition.
 
I can't see how the nature of editing sound files has changed so much that CoolEdit and the first editions of Audition couldn't suffice. They were easy to learn and got the job done. Some other programs in the 2000s (Sadie, Sonic) were a bit more complicated, and required more equipment to work.

Now, whether those older versions of CoolEdit and Audition will work on the latest OS's I really don't know.

Audacity is OK. I haven't worked with it enough to really give it a fair judgment. I know Audition was more intuitive at first.
 
Yeah, Audition kind of wins until it doesn’t. The problem with using the old versions is moving to new hardware and OS. Adobe won’t move the old pre-subscription licenses, they want to force an update to the subscription model, which is financially painful. Lets say you have 5 people that need to use Audition. Adobe licenses users, not machines, so that become 5 licenses. And it gets worse. If you work on a project on one machine with your license, and want to finish it on another workstation, you can also use another machine, but only for a total of two. Beyond that, more licenses. You could in practice create a generic “adobe-user” account that everybody uses, but you’ll violate their ULA. If you have a pre-subscription installation, you’d better image that machine because you won’t be able to build it from scratch if it catches fire. Assuming you could exactly replace the hardware, which after a few years, you probably can’t.

There are real problems with the Adobe subscription model. Hence the search for an Audition replacement. It’s clearly an eventuality.
 
dc2bluelight said:
Yeah, Audition kind of wins until it doesn’t. The problem with using the old versions is moving to new hardware and OS. Adobe won’t move the old pre-subscription licenses, they want to force an update to the subscription model, which is financially painful. Lets say you have 5 people that need to use Audition. Adobe licenses users, not machines, so that become 5 licenses. And it gets worse. If you work on a project on one machine with your license, and want to finish it on another workstation, you can also use another machine, but only for a total of two. Beyond that, more licenses. You could in practice create a generic “adobe-user” account that everybody uses, but you’ll violate their ULA. If you have a pre-subscription installation, you’d better image that machine because you won’t be able to build it from scratch if it catches fire. Assuming you could exactly replace the hardware, which after a few years, you probably can’t.

There are real problems with the Adobe subscription model. Hence the search for an Audition replacement. It’s clearly an eventuality.
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Probably Audacity, being that it's free, and I think it has subscription versions for those interested in advanced features.

A question for those in the know: Does the modern version of Audition update constantly, like other Adobe products do? I had to turn the updating on my Acrobat off. It was doing it every other week. Seemed counterproductive -- it's just a PDF reader, which I only use in Edge or Chrome.
 
dc2bluelight said:
Yeah, Audition kind of wins until it doesn’t. The problem with using the old versions is moving to new hardware and OS. Adobe won’t move the old pre-subscription licenses, they want to force an update to the subscription model, which is financially painful.
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Just reload the software from the original CD. I did that last month when I got a new laptop. Easy.
 
There's the issue. We're at CS6, which authorizes over the internet. Might install in Win11, but Adobe won't authrize any new instalations of CS6.
 
dc2bluelight said:
There's the issue. We're at CS6, which authorizes over the internet. Might install in Win11, but Adobe won't authrize any new instalations of CS6.
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Seriously?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Creative_Suite says:
Adobe shut down the "activation" servers for CS2 in December 2012, making it impossible for licensed users to reinstall the software if needed. In response to complaints, Adobe then made available for download a version of CS2 that did not require online activation, and published a serial number to activate it offline. Because there was no mechanism to prevent people who had never purchased a CS2 license from downloading and activating it, it was widely thought that the aging software had become freeware, despite Adobe's later explanation that it was intended only for people who had "legitimately purchased CS2". The later shutdown of the CS3 and CS4 activation servers was handled differently, with registered users given the opportunity to get individual serial numbers for offline activation, rather than a published one.
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Nothing is said about CS5 and CS6. They haven't offered registered users of those versions the option of obtaining local activation serials? And there hasn't been a class action lawsuit? I'm surprised they aren't resorting to cracked versions from bittorrent in retaliation as a form of civil disobedience.
 
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