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Bring back the oldies

MarinRadioRocks

MarinRadioRocks

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Hello I believe radio is dying because the music is catering to those who don’t want radio while sharing those like me don’t matter in my city I have no choice of music only music from after the 80 and I can’t only listen to that I want to listen to glenn miller he is a real musician or the ink spots or the dorseys

why is it not profitable maybe even younger kids will find it and enjoy at least give it on AM RADIO because they are putting nothing on there where I live there is a man reading a list of color and talking about absolute grey on fm radio
 
MarinRadioRocks said:
Hello I believe radio is dying because the music is catering to those who don’t want radio while sharing those like me don’t matter in my city I have no choice of music only music from after the 80 and I can’t only listen to that I want to listen to glenn miller he is a real musician or the ink spots or the dorseys
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This has been detailed extensively, but there are essentially no advertisers who want to reach listeners over 55 to 60 years old, so music that was popular in the 40's would appeal almost entirely to people in their 80's and beyond. No ad money, not way to run the station.
MarinRadioRocks said:
why is it not profitable maybe even younger kids will find it and enjoy at least give it on AM RADIO because they are putting nothing on there where I live there is a man reading a list of color and talking about absolute grey on fm radio
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No younger person wants anything to do with AM. It sounds bad, is subject to noise. Most don't even know it exists.
 
MarinRadioRocks said:
Hello I believe radio is dying because the music is catering to those who don’t want radio while sharing those like me don’t matter in my city I have no choice of music only music from after the 80 and I can’t only listen to that I want to listen to glenn miller he is a real musician or the ink spots or the dorseys
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Big Band music is probably best found on YouTube. I've downloaded tons of stuff from the 1920s thru the '40s. But on radio? Not a snowball's chance in Yuma, and that's been true for at least 50 years. The '60s are about as early as it gets these days, and that's going to disappear in the next decade, if not sooner. The Beatles and Beach Boys being exceptions. For now.
MarinRadioRocks said:
why is it not profitable maybe even younger kids will find it and enjoy at least give it on AM RADIO because they are putting nothing on there where I live there is a man reading a list of color and talking about absolute grey on fm radio
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Ancient Modulation's days are fast coming to an end. Not that they'll disappear tomorrow, but most will be gone before you and I kick the bucket (and I'm going by your picture and saying that we're about the same age).

As a card-carrying member of the Amalgamated Association of Outliers, Local 6-7/8* ("We are outliers, tried and true! And we'll do our yell for you! Elvis! Doo-wop! Mantovani! Frank Sinatra! Now and forever!"), I have to say that if you want music that's that old (aka, my parents' generation and a few years later), you'll have to look for it yourself. Again, try YouTube first. With some Elvis songs being an exception, that era is done. It's unfortunate, but reality is what it is.

* With apologies to Moe, Larry, and Curly for ripping off their dialog.
 
KeithE4 said:
Big Band music is probably best found on YouTube. I've downloaded tons of stuff from the 1920s thru the '40s. But on radio? Not a snowball's chance in Yuma, and that's been true for at least 50 years. The '60s are about as early as it gets these days, and that's going to disappear in the next decade, if not sooner. The Beatles and Beach Boys being exceptions. For now.

Ancient Modulation's days are fast coming to an end. Not that they'll disappear tomorrow, but most will be gone before you and I kick the bucket (and I'm going by your picture and saying that we're about the same age).

As a card-carrying member of the Amalgamated Association of Outliers, Local 6-7/8* ("We are outliers, tried and true! And we'll do our yell for you! Elvis! Doo-wop! Mantovani! Frank Sinatra! Now and forever!"), I have to say that if you want music that's that old (aka, my parents' generation and a few years later), you'll have to look for it yourself. Again, try YouTube first. With some Elvis songs being an exception, that era is done. It's unfortunate, but reality is what it is.

* With apologies to Moe, Larry, and Curly for ripping off their dialog.
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thank you very much everyone for the information and help! it is a shame how music progressed but as long as it brings a smile to people’s face I will support it! i do not use YouTube much I admit that I will try more thank you Keith
 
My link is to a big band FM station in Atherton you can listen to online, because there’s no way its 100 watts is going to make it up to Marin
 
radiofan2023 said:
My link is to a big band FM station in Atherton you can listen to online, because there’s no way its 100 watts is going to make it up to Marin
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What station is that? Can you put the link here? It's not going to make it to Phoenix, either. ;)
 
MarinRadioRocks said:
I want to listen to glenn miller he is a real musician or the ink spots or the dorseys
KeithE4 said:
Elvis! Doo-wop! Mantovani! Frank Sinatra! Now and forever!"), I have to say that if you want music that's that old (aka, my parents' generation and a few years later), you'll have to look for it yourself.
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serenade-radio.com

Online only, with mostly British DJs. Some even have a sense of humor. The man who runs the operation has a two-hour show five days a week where he says he doesn't like "pop" music and that The Beatles did some good songs, as long as they are performed by someone else.
 
MarinRadioRocks said:
thank you very much everyone for the information and help! it is a shame how music progressed but as long as it brings a smile to people’s face I will support it! i do not use YouTube much I admit that I will try more thank you Keith
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KeithE4 and I appear to be brothers from a different mother. He nailed it. With today's technology it is very easy (although a bit time consuming) to create your own personal music library with whatever music you prefer and without any unwanted music or commercial interruptions. I have a library which is sourced on a personal computer with portable copies I can take with me in the car and elsewhere (or to provide to my friends and family as an educational experience of course).

It's really the only way to fly (with apologies to Western Airlines).

How is Marin these days? I left San Rafael in 1968.
 
K.M. Richards said:
He can't answer you. He has been banned, apparently for ultra-political comments in another thread.
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Shame, as he did actually have some good points, even if they weren't expressed particularly eloquently (in particular, the lack of punctuation or capitalization is headache inducing).

That said, reality has a way of asserting itself no matter how hard people try to ignore it, and the reality here, which has been repeated ad nauseum every time a thread like this comes up, is that Big Band music from the 20s through the 40s is pretty much completely dead to radio (50s and 60s is almost there too, but not quite as there is still a relatively significant, if small number of people alive who remember it when it was new or newish).

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cc333 said:
Big Band music from the 20s through the 40s is pretty much completely dead to radio
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A major exception is serenade-radio.com in England. most of the shows I listen to have the occasional 40s tune and the man who runs the operation does a "vintage" tune halfway through the first hour, though some days there will be several tunes that sound "vintage".

And from 4-5 Eastern Mondays and during a weekend slot they actually paly the 20s through the 40s.

There is also a show 4-5 Tuesdays and 1-2 Sundays (Eastern) that claims to be a big band show but a lot of the songs are newer, sometimes even people like Michael Buble.
 
Here's another Big Band station, WKHR, a rimshot in the Cleveland area. They have hosts every hour except overnights.

www.wkhr.org

HOME | wkhr

WKHR FM 91.5 | 24/7 Online and FM Radio Station playing the best of the Great American Songbook. Tune In to hear the best of swing, sweet, and jive! We would love to have you.
www.wkhr.org www.wkhr.org
 
Commercial-Free is very different from selling advertising.

I have read about KBRD. Seems it's a hobby station that has the cash to stick around even though that cash is not from the listeners alone. Always has been the founder's choice of music.

WKHR: I know nothing of it but I see it is run by volunteers and I can almost guarantee streaming donations make up the bulk of revenue.

Running a big band format on over-the-air radio is likely the worst option you could go with. The people who grew up with it are long gone leaving the few outliers to be the only listeners. It's one of those formats where you need a billion or two people to make ends meet because the percentage of big band music listeners is so miniscule.
 
Here's a Big Band/Standards station in a small town. Can't find a link for streaming, though.

KPYK AM/FM Terrell, TX

Radio Station KPYK Big Bands and Great Singers (tm) kpyk.com

Music from the Big Band Era, the Great Singers like Frank Sinatra, Ella Fitzgerald, Perry Como, Dean Martin, Bing Crosby, The Andrews Sisters, Boswell Sisters. Plus news, weather, and sports. Broadcast local school board and city council meetings.
www.kpyk.com
 
Very familiar with KPYK. The son is running it now. It is not a moneymaker. I have been told there's more money rolling in on Sunday than there is all week. If his mom was no longer with us, I suspect the format would change. KPYK had been KTER when it was sold to the owner of Radio Shack and is still operated by them (mother and son). They show about a dozen or so of advertisers but that list hasn't changed in several years so I wonder how current that might be.
 
b-turner said:
Very familiar with KPYK. The son is running it now. It is not a moneymaker. I have been told there's more money rolling in on Sunday than there is all week. If his mom was no longer with us, I suspect the format would change. KPYK had been KTER when it was sold to the owner of Radio Shack and is still operated by them (mother and son). They show about a dozen or so of advertisers but that list hasn't changed in several years so I wonder how current that might be.
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That's interesting about the Radio Shack ownership connection. I've never been to Terrell, on a map it looks like a bedroom community of Dallas (32 miles?). With all the competition from Dallas and other area stations, was the format chosen as a way to stand out from those stations, offering something different? And does the High School sports provide revenue for them?
 
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