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Yesterday I was eating at a restaurant. They had two TV's with FS2 on. It took me a while to realize it, but one TV was 7 seconds delayed from the other. I assume that was one cable fed and the other Satellite. Don't know why that was so, but it made me think of 'The Sting' and on-line sports betting :)
 
Is one of the TV's connected to the wifi system? But then again this may not be a complete picture. The newer the TV the more the user is going towards TV apps rather than cable. But then again this may not be a complete picture.
 
Sometimes it's just the TV. Sometimes it's something else. In my house, one TV is a few seconds ahead of the other on some channels, and a few seconds behind on others, and both are fed by the same cable system. And the cable in general is about 30 seconds behind over-the-air.
 
With many sporting events available only on streaming (such as college sports on ESPN+) it is possible that any sports bar or restaurant might have a mix of traditional cable/satellite and streaming services on their various TVs, in order to cover anything and everything their customers might request be shown. Perhaps FS2 was being displayed on both types of distribution.

One way to determine which was which would be to wait for any local breaks that are inserted into the programming and compare the two. Those spots would be different, and would likely give plenty of clues about distributor origin.

Cable TV can have significant video delays, as the programming packages are often aggregated in another part of the country, then sent as an IPTV package back to the system for local distribution. I have seen delays of close to a minute on some local broadcast signals retransmitted on cable.
 
In my home when I had cable, it was not uncommon for the bedroom TV, which was connected directly to cable to be a few seconds ahead of the main TV which went through the DVR. It was likely set up that way because you could pause live TV and run it back, etc. This might have been the case in the bar or restaurant, or perhaps someone had accidentally hit pause on the DVR for 7 seconds for any number of reasons and then did not switch to LIVE but just unpaused the one TV and left it that way.
 
Y2kTheNewOldies said:
Is one of the TV's connected to the wifi system? But then again this may not be a complete picture. The newer the TV the more the user is going towards TV apps rather than cable. But then again this may not be a complete picture.
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Fox Sports doesn't really have very good apps in the first place so no way it could be an app (Ever try watching a live event on there??)
 
Don CT said:
Bars now are using streaming for the sports feeds. There will always be a delay.
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And why not?? They want to Ditch The Dish as bad as people want to Cut The Cord. Problem with that you have the Internet (Which can be just as expensive & if you use your cable provider STILL requires the cable as that's what the modem uses)
 
The seven-second delays + compression + other factors make New Year's Eve so laughable...the Times Square ball reaches the bottom at about "12:00:45" nowadays if you watch Seacrest.
I'm not surprised sports are the same way now. And of course, streaming also has delays and buffering.

(BTW, no TV this year, because I'm going down to see the Idaho Potato Drop...in-person ;))

The local breaks are a good way to determine as what Mediafrog+ says. Which service has the ad for a local car dealer on ESPN, and which service has a filler commercial for tax relief, some as-seen-on-TV product or another 800 number?
 
I can second the delay seen between a cable feed and OTA. At my current station (ION O&O) the delay is 31 seconds. When I was working at KCPQ-TV it was at least that if not longer; I just checked and for KCPQ the delay is approximately 38 seconds. You could definitely set up a "Sting" type of situation during an NFL game with a delay like that.

One morning we had a problem with the Antenna TV signal that was on Comcast. I had it on a small monitor as I was monitoring how the local ad insertion looked and noticed that we had the Antenna TV signal from Spokane on the Seattle Comcast system. Many hours and phone calls later it was finally set back to the KCPQ feed of Antenna TV. I was told that all signals are sent to the Comcast technical facility that handles the streaming first, then sent to the individual head ends for distribution. A stream identification number (or something like that) mix up meant that the Spokane signal was sent to two markets.

Val
 
It’s horrible when you watching a game and your phone alerts you 30 seconds of a score before you see it.
 
crainbebo said:
The seven-second delays + compression + other factors make New Year's Eve so laughable...the Times Square ball reaches the bottom at about "12:00:45" nowadays if you watch Seacrest.
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And what if it comes through your TiVo? I noticed an echo with cable and OTA going at the same time on different TVs,
 
JeeperOne said:
Fox Sports doesn't really have very good apps in the first place so no way it could be an app (Ever try watching a live event on there??)
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Y2kTheNewOldies said:
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I was thinking this one too like Hulu Live, YoutubeTV, and fubo as the other ones that could be carrying live sports too.
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I've heard of people listening to the radio because the people calling the action sounded so much better but that doesn't work if the TV broadcast has a delay.
 
vchimpanzee said:
I've heard of people listening to the radio because the people calling the action sounded so much better but that doesn't work if the TV broadcast has a delay.
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