Buffalo September Ratings

[tbolt909]

Wow. I'm here to say I would have preferred your choices. You lay out the difference between classic rock and classic hits.

Classic Hits formats are mainly songs from the 70's through early 90's now. Classic Rock is also heavy on the same era. Very little music from the 60's is still on the Radio except for Oldies formats. WECK plays the "hits", not Album tracks. I doubt that the owner has any interest in "Cool". He just wants to make money. There is a lot of great music from many eras that's not on Radio playlists.

I don't remember reading anything about JP being a bad Program Director. There certainly seemed to be a lot of petty drama, however. It's hard to believe that someone who worked in Radio so long could still be naive. In a situation like WECK, you do it "the owners way or it's the highway"...

 

[davideduardo]

Classic Hits formats are mainly songs from the 70's through early 90's now.

I'd add "Late" to "70's" in most cases. Few are playing earlier 70's and even the mid 70's stuff.

Classic Rock is also heavy on the same era.

But Classic rock tends to be much wider, with both earlier and later songs being heard on some of the stations in the format.

Very little music from the 60's is still on the Radio except for Oldies formats. WECK plays the "hits", not Album tracks. I doubt that the owner has any interest in "Cool". He just wants to make money.

Accurate and true of nearly 100% of all owners.

There is a lot of great music from many eras that's not on Radio playlists.

And that is because the listeners no longer care to hear it.

I don't remember reading anything about JP being a bad Program Director. There certainly seemed to be a lot of petty drama, however. It's hard to believe that someone who worked in Radio so long could still be naive.

This is not uncommon. I have been told more than once that a format I had in mind would "never work here" only to see the station I "victimized" with the bad idea hit #1 overall or in their target demos. And I have seen formats I thought were awful do the same.

This is like going to an art museum and not finding every work pleasing to our eye. Different strokes... and all that.

In a situation like WECK, you do it "the owners way or it's the highway"...

Isn't that true of any business?

 

[tbolt909]

And that is because the listeners no longer care to hear it.

This is not uncommon. I have been told more than once that a format I had in mind would "never work here" only to see the station I "victimized" with the bad idea hit #1 overall or in their target demos. And I have seen formats I thought were awful do the same.

This is like going to an art museum and not finding every work pleasing to our eye. Different strokes... and all that.

Isn't that true of any business?

Some owners hire someone with expertise to implement a plan or vision. They don't interfere. Sure, they expect results. You should be responding to the former WECK PD and his post in this forum, not mine. He obviously had a different vision than the owner.

You use a very broad brush when you say "Listeners no longer want to hear" certain songs. That cuts both ways. I have no desire to hear anything on a Classic Rock station. The narrow playlist is burnt to a cinder. It's like hearing the same stale joke over and over. I know that I am not alone in that opinion...

 

[davideduardo]

You use a very broad brush when you say "Listeners no longer want to hear" certain songs. That cuts both ways. I have no desire to hear anything on a Classic Rock station. The narrow playlist is burnt to a cinder. It's like hearing the same stale joke over and over. I know that I am not alone in that opinion...

Yet you are, per thousand of classic rock music tests over about five decades or so, in a tiny minority.

 

[ckg279]

NPR isn't left wing.

And it never HAS been...at least not in a long while.

 

[ckg279]

No, but if you work there then it may explain why you are blind to it. I knew posting my opinion on here was useless. Everyone is in their entrenched camps here I see, much like the larger society. Look, if I listen to the hosts on the Daily Wire I know what I'm getting, they make no bones about not treating both sides fairly. However NPR and the NY Times try to hold themselves up as fair and objective but they have a bias (to the left) just as strong as the Federalist or Daily Wire does to the right. They just cloak it in respectibility and a mature tone. Many times they are blind to it because everyone around them thinks the same.

Don't even get me STARTED on the Times.

I'll leave it at that.

 

[SirRoxalot]

Don't even get me STARTED on the Times.

I'll leave it at that.

NPR itself does a pretty good job of remaining unbiased. Many NPR stations, however, carry shows out of Boston, NY, and other major markets that do have a left lean. They're not extremist, but voices from the left certainly get more airtime than voices from the right. That may be because it's harder to get voices from the right to appear on more moderate media for fear of being labeled a "RINO" by the extremists in their own party.

The NY Times is famously to the left of center. More importantly, it's often hard to tell whether a story on its front page is reporting, or op/ed. If you read far enough into a story, you may get an opposing view, but it's often buried many paragraphs in, and much less detailed than the gist of the article. This is not limited to the Times (NY or LA). It's a current choice to have "storytellers" instead of reporters. They see themselves as supplying "context" when what they're really doing is supplying bias.

I have no problem when content like this is labeled as op/ed or is part of a particular writer's column. I have a big problem when it's presented as a "news" story. When it comes to news, I want the facts, as many as I can get, telling me who, what, where, when, why, and how from as many points of view as is practical in a point-counterpoint presentation if those facts are that contentious. I don't care a whit about a reporter's opinion. I want to hear from people who are experts in that particular subject. I'll form my own opinions based on facts. That's why I read multiple sources to get multiple points of view on important topics. True unbiased journalism is in short supply these days.

 

[tbolt909]

"Unbiased Journalism" cannot exist when basic facts are not accepted by all. It doesn't matter how much fact checking is done. Some people just believe what they want to hear.

George Orwell wrote ---"Freedom is the Freedom to say 2 plus 2 equals 4"...