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KSFO To 810
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Interesting....Some years ago I was in Tulsa, Ok....and when checking out 810-I was only receiving KCMO on that frequency but when checking out 1030-I was actually able to pull in WBZ out of Boston although it was mixing with KTWO out of Casper, Wyoming...
When I interned at KRMG, there was a map on one of the studio walls that had pins where listeners reported hearing the station. There was one right smack on Amarillo.
I grew up mostly in Tulsa. Never heard WBZ there; if I got anything on 1030, it was KTWO after KFAY shifted to its nighttime pattern. During the late afternoon/early evening hours, Kansas City and Corpus Christi would occasionally come in, too. Unless you count the Gulf Coast, no coastal stations were ever regulars there. Once in a great while, I got WABC on 770 and 1210 out of Philadelphia, and I got the occasional fluke that you'd hear once and never again (like 1390 Charleston, SC). KDKA and 1100 from Cleveland were regulars after dark, but those were about the farthest east catches you could expect to get there. I can't remember ever getting a station out of California east of the Mountain Time Zone. My farthest west catch in Tulsa was probably KTNN 660 out of Window Rock, AZ, and it was a fairly regular catch in the pre-sunset hours.
OK, to all that commented on my comments, good stuff.
I recall that KGO was called Liberal often back in the 80's. I know some of you mentioned that it didn't seem Liberal and I kind of agree but that is what I recall people calling it at the time, 1980's.
I knew so many people that liked the station and were "always" listening, until Cumulus took it over.
I recall that KGO was called Liberal often back in the 80's. I know some of you mentioned that it didn't seem Liberal and I kind of agree but that is what I recall people calling it at the time, 1980's.
I knew so many people that liked the station and were "always" listening, until Cumulus took it over.
And he is the "tightest" operator known to the market. He likely has inventory taken right down to the number of paper clips used each week...
KRMG is listenable in Amarillo during the day as well. Excellent groundwave signal to the west.
WBZ would make it into Austin in the early 1970s if a co-channel station in Mexico City was nulled out. WBZ was actually easier to hear in Austin than any of the somewhat closer NYC 50kw stations on 660/770/880. This was years before KTWO moved to 1030.
Getting back to WGY: I have heard them with a decent signal in both Chicago and Milwaukee, so they do make it past the Great Lakes.
He was reputed to be quite the cheapskate, hence the dogs doing the station IDs on channel 20.
Don't forget Brentwood, much as I would like to. Point being, the outer East Bay is where much of the population growth has been in recent years, as people move ever farther out in search of affordable housing, spilling over into San Joaquin County.
My notes on radio reception in Columbia, Mo., halfway between Kansas City and St. Louis, are from the early 1980s, before 1030 went on the air in Blue Springs, a Kansas City suburb. My notes indicated that never once did I receive WBZ. KTWO was a frequent visitor before Wyoming sunset, as was KCTA before its local sunset. By the way, one of the applicants for that 1030 drop-in was near Columbia.
To contrast, when I moved to Chicago in 1997, I found during my tedious commute from Hoffman Estates to the lakeshore that, the minute local daytimer WNVR popped off the air at sunset, WBZ would come rushing in with a strong signal.
I heard it in Columbia every once in a while. I was definitely in the eastern null of KCMO at the time. I suppose I could have tried for WGY when I lived in Chicago but, honestly, I wasn't that interested in it.
Amused to see the mention of KRMG in a thread discussing a talk station perceived as liberal, given that I recall how John Erling, a long time KRMG fixture was probably the last "center to center left" personality to appear on Tulsa talk radio, often regarded as a "liberal" because of some of his opinions and the fact he supported Bill Clinton. I remember listening to him quite often, one of a kind.
KGO back in the day, would do a monthly live on air cruise around the bay, where the hosts would gather on board and discuss (more like debate!) various issues. I can't remember whether listeners were also onboard. But as much as they argued back and forth (Lee Rodgers and Bernie Ward had some notoriously heated exchanges), all of them came across as being good friends with each other, laughing and joking with each other.
My point is that that the left and right could debate and argue back then, and still remain friends. Nowadays, it's just hatred.
My point is that that the left and right could debate and argue back then, and still remain friends. Nowadays, it's just hatred.
Ehrling wasn't a fan of Reagan either. I was always surprised he lasted as long as he did given that he didn't last long at his previous jobs in Omaha and Fargo, though he moved up from Fargo while Tulsa would be a lateral move from Omaha. He also arrived at KRMG when it was still predominantly a music station and remained almost 20 years after it switched to all talk. To say he was one of a kind would almost be an understatement. His full of himself on-air personality never seemed like an act to me but neither did his charity work, much of which was done under the radar. He also had a sense of humor about himself.
On a side note, a friend of mine in high school married his daughter, Michelle. We've stayed in touch through Facebook and have occasionally bumped into each other when I've been back in Tulsa, but we don't chat much. He's a couple years old than I, and Michelle was two or three years older than he. I can't remember how long they were married, but they stayed together until she died a year or two ago in her early fifties.
Which was the beginning of the "Reagan Revolution" (see my earlier post about how infrequently conservatives use the word "moderate").
There was no KSFO TV to complicate the deal. Disney could not retain a KSFO trademark the way it did for KGO-TV.
Dr. Michael Krasny , formerly with KGO, was what you would call a "common sense" liberal and fascinating to listen to.
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For those who tuned in to 810 The Spread just for the Jim Rome show, he can now be heard on 1050.
Great point. Buchanan and Kinsley on CNN Crossfire seemed like friends, as did conservative Novak and his liberal friends on Capital Gang. Hannity and Colmes appeared to be friends too. I wish more radio stations had a mix of liberal and conservative hosts like the old KGO.
The same reason Audacy chose WINS as the station to consolidate their all-news operation, and to simulcast on FM. Audacy's purchase agreement from CBS included the sole rights to the WINS call letters (which, by law, can't be owned by CBS without one of their remaining TV stations holding them). Obviously, CBS holds the rights to the WCBS calls, by virtue of their TV station, but allows Audacy to "borrow" them under whatever circumstances are agreed upon (ones that apparently are vague to the public). Similar agreements are present in many markets where long-established radio stations have been sold by a company while retaining the TV station with the same calls. Hope that explanation makes some sort of sense.
Yes! Thank you, it does clear it up. There have been a few situations in the TV/radio breakup where an additional K or W was added to keep the calls as close as legally possible. Sone examples: KOB-TV/KKOB-AM Albuquerque, and WOR-AM/WWOR-TV New York.
I doubt Cumulus would go to the trouble of getting permission from Mt Wilson FM Broadcasters to use KKGO-AM, as they have KKGO-FM.
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There was nothing "vague" about the terms of CBS selling its radio stations to Entercom.
The stations with shared radio/TV calls received permanent permission to keep using those calls on radio - except for KCBS and WCBS. Because those contained the CBS trademark, the agreement provided for a 20-year license to keep using them on radio, so long as the format wasn't changed from what it was in 2017.
That's why WCBS 880 became WHSQ - the format change triggered the call change.
If broadcasting as we know it still exists in 2037, it will be up to the successor companies to Audacy and Paramount to decide whether to extend the agreement for KCBS and KCBS-FM.
There are also clauses in the sale that governed the use of other CBS trademarks, which is why WCBS 880 removed the CBS eye from its logo fairly quickly, and why CBS Sports Radio became Infinity Sports Radio.
As for ABC, when it sold its radio stations to Citadel, it gave a permanent license to allow the continued use of the KGO, KABC, WABC and WLS calls as long as they stayed on the same stations.
The stations with shared radio/TV calls received permanent permission to keep using those calls on radio - except for KCBS and WCBS. Because those contained the CBS trademark, the agreement provided for a 20-year license to keep using them on radio, so long as the format wasn't changed from what it was in 2017.
That's why WCBS 880 became WHSQ - the format change triggered the call change.
If broadcasting as we know it still exists in 2037, it will be up to the successor companies to Audacy and Paramount to decide whether to extend the agreement for KCBS and KCBS-FM.
There are also clauses in the sale that governed the use of other CBS trademarks, which is why WCBS 880 removed the CBS eye from its logo fairly quickly, and why CBS Sports Radio became Infinity Sports Radio.
As for ABC, when it sold its radio stations to Citadel, it gave a permanent license to allow the continued use of the KGO, KABC, WABC and WLS calls as long as they stayed on the same stations.
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