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KNUV 1190 Downgrade and Eventual Re-location

RF101 said:
The following news story tells of a last-minute save for KNUV (Tolleson) The station must downgrade to non-directional, then eventually re-locate.

Story:

www.abc15.com

WATCH: Longtime Spanish radio station La Onda at risk of going silent amid dispute

La Onda has served the Spanish-speaking community in Arizona since 1963, but it could soon go silent unless a dispute is resolved.
www.abc15.com www.abc15.com

Paperwork for downgrade?
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The ABC15 story is pretty much inaccurate. The station hasn't been Spanish-language since 1963. It's had many different formats, English- and Spanish-language, since signing on in 1961.

As for towers, there's pretty much no place they can go. 1190 is too close frequency-wise to diplex on the 1230 tower. Does the owner want to deal with Salem Media at the 1360/1010 towers?
 
EricStein said:
As for towers, there's pretty much no place they can go. 1190 is too close frequency-wise to diplex on the 1230 tower. Does the owner want to deal with Salem Media at the 1360/1010 towers?
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That's where they're going with 2.8kw and .19kw DA-2. Downgrade from 5kw and .25kw.
 

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EricStein said:
The ABC15 story is pretty much inaccurate. The station hasn't been Spanish-language since 1963. It's had many different formats, English- and Spanish-language, since signing on in 1961.

As for towers, there's pretty much no place they can go. 1190 is too close frequency-wise to diplex on the 1230 tower. Does the owner want to deal with Salem Media at the 1360/1010 towers?
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Not only that but KRDS didn't always have the 5kW daytime power. When I arrived in Phoenix in 1971, KRDS was running, if memory serves, .5kW days and .25kW nights from KNUV's current location. I used to be driven down to the Arizona School for the Deaf and Blind campus in Tucson every Sunday, and you would lose KRDS' signal completely just about when I-10 went around the Broadway curve. The 5kW upshift in power during daylight hours ended that problem.

Getting back to the format, KRDS was running a country format 24/7 but added some soft pop hits to its playlist as well. The limited surveys at

KRDS 1190 Phoenix

An historical archive of surveys and nostalgia from radio station KRDS 1190 AM, Phoenix.
www.las-solanas.com

particularly the one from December 1968 (before I arrived) give a lot of insights into what KRDS was playing at the time.

It will be interesting to see what happens here. My guess is that KNUV, like KBMB, KASA, and KCKY before it, will soon be off of the air and in the history books.
 
KRDS was originally only a 250 watt daytimer. When they went 24 hours, the format stayed Country from 6am-6pm, and Spanish Fiesta Mexicana from 6pm-6am. They were basically a local West Valley station. The purchase by Interstate Broadcasting in the late 70's was when the 5kw upgrade occurred with the flip to Contemporary Christian.

In regards to the KNXV report, it's amazing how some reporters screw up the facts... La Onda since 1963. Do your research!
 
KilowattKat said:
KRDS was originally only a 250 watt daytimer. When they went 24 hours, the format stayed Country from 6am-6pm, and Spanish Fiesta Mexicana from 6pm-6am. They were basically a local West Valley station. The purchase by Interstate Broadcasting in the late 70's was when the 5kw upgrade occurred with the flip to Contemporary Christian.

In regards to the KNXV report, it's amazing how some reporters screw up the facts... La Onda since 1963. Do your research!
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When I DXed KRDS in the very early 60's from Cleveland, it was all country 24/7.
 
DavidEduardo said:
When I DXed KRDS in the very early 60's from Cleveland, it was all country 24/7.
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They were definitely a daytimer in the 60's, maybe you were listening prior to the sign off at sunset (mountain time). The move to 24 hours occurred sometime in the mid - 70's, and 6pm-6am was brokered for the Fiesta Mexicana programming. The sale to Interstate was when the studio/office was moved fom Tolleson to next to the Black Canyon Fwy. near MetroCenter.
 
Looks like KRDS was authorized for 250 watts at night, but signed off at 10pm, later on it was midnight, until going 24 hours with the brokered programming.
 
KilowattKat said:
They were definitely a daytimer in the 60's, maybe you were listening prior to the sign off at sunset (mountain time). The move to 24 hours occurred sometime in the mid - 70's, and 6pm-6am was brokered for the Fiesta Mexicana programming. The sale to Interstate was when the studio/office was moved fom Tolleson to next to the Black Canyon Fwy. near MetroCenter.
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I thought they had their offices inside Metrocenter when Southwest Media owned them in the '70s, but kept their studios at the transmitter site in Tolleson. I want to say it was either a post on this board about a year or two ago where someone mentioned this.
 
EricStein said:
I thought they had their offices inside Metrocenter when Southwest Media owned them in the '70s, but kept their studios at the transmitter site in Tolleson. I want to say it was either a post on this board about a year or two ago where someone mentioned this.
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When they were purchased by Interstate both the studios and office were moved into an office bldg off the circular Metro Parkway next to I-17. Before that the studio was at the Tolleson site, I remember seeing some office space in there. It was probably a sales office inside Metrocenter.

Wasn't 710 KUET also located at or around Metrocenter when they first went on the air?
 
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A relocation to the KNAI facilities may be possible. A few years ago, I had the opportunity to talk with the administrator of 1190, I can say that their project is genuine and all the daily effort they make, it would be sad if it entered a stage of silence
 
KilowattKat said:
KRDS was originally only a 250 watt daytimer. When they went 24 hours, the format stayed Country from 6am-6pm, and Spanish Fiesta Mexicana from 6pm-6am. They were basically a local West Valley station. The purchase by Interstate Broadcasting in the late 70's was when the 5kw upgrade occurred with the flip to Contemporary Christian.

In regards to the KNXV report, it's amazing how some reporters screw up the facts... La Onda since 1963. Do your research!
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I'm willing to bet that 99.9% of their viewers not only don't listen to 1190, but have no clue about its history, and have no recollection whatsoever of KRDS.

I remember them (hopefully accurately) as a talk station circa 1974. I think they'd raised their power by then, at least in the daytime. IIRC, Michael Dixon did a show there at the time.
 
KilowattKat said:
When they were purchased by Interstate both the studios and office were moved into an office bldg off the circular Metro Parkway next to I-17. Before that the studio was at the Tolleson site, I remember seeing some office space in there. It was probably a sales office inside Metrocenter.

Wasn't 710 KUET also located at or around Metrocenter when they first went on the air?
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That might have been the case. That predates me. As for the change to Christian, I think it might have been in the late '70s under Southwestern Broadcasters, which owned KPRI-FM in San Diego (I mistakenly called them Southwest Media above). Interstate (Paul Toberty, Orange County developer and one of the first board members of Trinity Broadcasting Network, along with partner Arnold McClatchey) purchased KRDS and sister station 106.3 FM in Orange County, and all of their stations were some kind of Christian format by then. Interstate tried secular formats in the early 2000s before selling to New Radio Venture (partially owned by Susquehanna Broadcasting) and flipped to Spanish.

KUET might have been near Metrocenter during their brief run in the '80s. They probably had trouble picking up the station there at that time.

KeithE4 said:
I'm willing to bet that 99.9% of their viewers not only don't listen to 1190, but have no clue about its history, and have no recollection whatsoever of KRDS.

I remember them (hopefully accurately) as a talk station circa 1974. I think they'd raised their power by then, at least in the daytime. IIRC, Michael Dixon did a show there at the time.
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That sounds about right according to the Broadcasting Yearbooks.
 
exbloguero said:
A relocation to the KNAI facilities may be possible. A few years ago, I had the opportunity to talk with the administrator of 1190, I can say that their project is genuine and all the daily effort they make, it would be sad if it entered a stage of silence
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I agree, any station concentrating on locally produced programs to better the community deserves support and hopefully success. It's nice to see that being done, at least during the day, and keeping the syndicated Radio Formula at night.

Great website, with the aerial fly by of Arizona!
 
EricStein said:
I thought they had their offices inside Metrocenter when Southwest Media owned them in the '70s, but kept their studios at the transmitter site in Tolleson. I want to say it was either a post on this board about a year or two ago where someone mentioned this.
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Ironic, talking about Metrocenter....the demolition of it began today.

R.I.P. Metrocenter
 
Amigo Multimedia did no favors to this station by hiving off the translator and chunks of the tower site. As I said two years ago when the Family Radio sale of K298CK dropped, Laura Madrid got clowned on.

Curious what Tolleson Union wants the land for. It's across the street from the back of Tolleson Union High School.
 
Sammi Brie said:
Amigo Multimedia did no favors to this station by hiving off the translator and chunks of the tower site. As I said two years ago when the Family Radio sale of K298CK dropped, Laura Madrid got clowned on.

Curious what Tolleson Union wants the land for. It's across the street from the back of Tolleson Union High School.
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$500k purchase price AND you don't get the land or the translator. Heck of a deal for Amigo, but not the purchaser.

What Tolleson Union is going to do with the land is a guess, but looks like the HS is landlocked and this adds acreage. I'll have Nurse Jeff look into whether there's an application in for a Media Hut franchise in Tolleson.
 
KilowattKat said:
KNUV filed an STA today to operate from one tower non directional with 1.25 KW daytime, and 62.5 watts at night. The other 2 towers are being removed.
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without reading the paperwork, im going to guess 62 doesnt create overlap with whoever but 63 watts does.

I know of one other station that has xx.5 watts at night because 49 didnt create prohibited overlap with the station requiring protection but 50 does.
 


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