Especially when you consider that the Grupo Frontera original exists and very much fits the format!To continue on the discussion of KROI's playlist, 'No Se Va' by Morat was played on a KROI promo promoting their song selections. It seems like another odd selection IMO.
Isn’t that what the HD2 station is going to do? Play a little of everything?To continue on the discussion of KROI's playlist, 'No Se Va' by Morat was played on a KROI promo promoting their song selections. It seems like another odd selection IMO.
La Privada KLAX-HD2Isn’t that what the HD2 station is going to do? Play a little of everything?
HD2 is supposed to be Belicos and Tumbados only. Wouldn't say that's "a little bit of everything."Isn’t that what the HD2 station is going to do? Play a little of everything?
How much exposure does that particular genre already have on existing stations here in Houston? Is there enough of a gap for it to be used as a primary format somewhere? Option for KFNC if the flip rumors are true?La Privada KLAX-HD2
That's what they're supposed to eventually roll-out in SF, Chicago, and Houston as a subchannel. It's a corridos format that is widely popular with younger Mexican Americans.
This more about "how much of that will the other stations add to block the new station?"How much exposure does that particular genre already have on existing stations here in Houston? Is there enough of a gap for it to be used as a primary format somewhere? Option for KFNC if the flip rumors are true?
This new format: let's call it Spanish hip hop) can be popular but that doesn't translate to sales on the radio since it stirs young) I don't think anyone will do or add more of it to keep this HD station from coming to the Market. We play enough of it but mostly the top 3-5 artists in that genre.This more about "how much of that will the other stations add to block the new station?"
Spanish hip hop is a better description of Reggaetón than the Bélicos/Tumbados format put on in Los Angeles. I've seen David come up with the name "Mexitón."This new format: let's call it Spanish hip hop) can be popular but that doesn't translate to sales on the radio since it stirs young)
I really doubt Univision and Audacy are quaking in their boots at the idea of La Privada launching on KROI-HD2. If HD Radio was wide spread, I'd understand their concern. But it's not.I don't think anyone will do or add more of it to keep this HD station from coming to the Market. We play enough of it but mostly the top 3-5 artists in that genre.
I don't think we have to overthink this. The overall movement already has a name; "Corridos Bélicos".Spanish hip hop is a better description of Reggaetón than the Bélicos/Tumbados format put on in Los Angeles. I've seen David come up with the name "Mexitón."
Yup.I really doubt Univision and Audacy are quaking in their boots at the idea of La Privada launching on KROI-HD2. If HD Radio was wide spread, I'd understand their concern. But it's not.
The problem is that this music has a heritage going back to the Revolution (1910's) and is anything but "urban". It's roots and its derivatives are the country music of Mexico, not the city music.I personally think Urban Regional Mexican (or grupero urbano in Mexico) is more fitting given that all the acts aren't technically corridos. I get the reference to Mexitón being both "Mexican" and "Reggaeton", but the overall reggaeton influence seems negligible IMO.
The thing is that Mexican country music itself keeps encroaching into the city. It's not like Sinaloa doesn't have major cities. And while in the past Guadalajara gave us acts like Maná and Belanova, it also gave us Peso Pluma.The problem is that this music has a heritage going back to the Revolution (1910's) and is anything but "urban". It's roots and its derivatives are the country music of Mexico, not the city music.
As to specific songs and artists, we always get into the equivalent of whether Shaboozey and Jelly Roll are really, truly, country. Same happens when regional Mexican programmers have to deal with "bélicos" and the related artists.
But we cannot deny that the Belico subgenre borrows a lot from Urban movements. If earlier Reggaeton formats were called "Hurban", then why can't Regional Mexican borrow the Urban label?The problem is that this music has a heritage going back to the Revolution (1910's) and is anything but "urban".
The vast majority of the artists within this subgenre (as well as listeners) are practically city people. Furthermore, the "Urban" label shouldn't be taken in a literal sense. It's a style of music, not a description of your upbringing. You don't have to be a poor peasant from rural Nuevo Leon to create or listen to this genre, just like you don't have to be born in a city to become an Urban artist.It's roots and its derivatives are the country music of Mexico, not the city music.
Interestingly enough, the country category of Tractor Rap is similarly influenced by Urban rap.As to specific songs and artists, we always get into the equivalent of whether Shaboozey and Jelly Roll are really, truly, country. Same happens when regional Mexican programmers have to deal with "bélicos" and the related artists.
I don't know who called the reggaetón format "hurban" and I never heard that term used. The format originated at WOLA (FM) in Río Piedras, PR, in the later 1980's and was always referred to that way from its beginning.But we cannot deny that the Belico subgenre borrows a lot from Urban movements. If earlier Reggaeton formats were called "Hurban", then why can't Regional Mexican borrow the Urban label?
Same, to a great extent, with country music in English. The origins of norteña and banda music in México were certainly rural... the tuba and the accordion were brought into the mining camps by Germans long ago!The vast majority of the artists within this subgenre (as well as listeners) are practically city people. Furthermore, the "Urban" label shouldn't be taken in a literal sense. It's a style of music, not a description of your upbringing. You don't have to be a poor peasant from rural Nuevo Leon to create or listen to this genre, just like you don't have to be born in a city to become an Urban artist.
It's not about each artist's origins. If it were, we'd get into a discussion of "how country was Taylor" when she started... or Keith Urban... or Mary Chapin Carpenter.Peso Pluma, arguably the biggest artist to come out of this movement, came from a major Mexican urban area and migrated to another major American urban area. He probably has more in common with modern day rappers than he does with a Zapatista farmer from Chiapas.
And is not that the history of music going back centuries? Little Richard does not match Buddy Holly, either, but each added a flavor to rock 'n' roll.Interestingly enough, the country category of Tractor Rap is similarly influenced by Urban rap.
Yet there are barrios of Guadalajara that are more "rural" in flavor than Tepatitlán... a town about 40 miles away to the northeast (Yeah, I have family from Tepa!).The thing is that Mexican country music itself keeps encroaching into the city. It's not like Sinaloa doesn't have major cities. And while in the past Guadalajara gave us acts like Maná and Belanova, it also gave us Peso Pluma.
Their RT says Llego La LeyThanks to some Houston to Baton Rouge skip, I was able to check out the sound of 92.1. Not bad at all, and the PPM "buzz-saw" was where it should be: hidden well-behind the music. Only thing I noticed was the analog-RDS was just displaying KROI-FM, versus song-titles or even just the La Ley slogan. Oh well, I suspect there'll be a lawyer's ad on the RDS soon-enough, hah.
The unusually warm weather today has caused tropo to kick up along the Gulf Coast. This morning I was treated to some international reception, hearing decent signals from XHAVO Club Digital 101.5 as well as XHVTH La Comadre 107.1 out of the Mexico side of the LRGV.Thanks to some Houston to Baton Rouge skip, I was able to check out the sound of 92.1. Not bad at all
There's a whole Wikipedia page about it.I don't know who called the reggaetón format "hurban" and I never heard that term used.
Not all. "Cumbias" have been widely categorized to fall under the Regional Mexican/Grupero umbrella and I wouldn't consider the history and modern use of it to be strictly rural. IMO, Mexican Cumbias have mostly brewed in the urban slums of Mexico City and Monterrey.so-called regional Mexican genres come originally out of the farms and mines and ranches of rural Mexico.
If Regional Mexican was able to borrow from the Germans and incorporate the tuba and accordion, why are we gatekeeping Urban movements from influencing a new subgenre of Regional Mexican?Same, to a great extent, with country music in English. The origins of norteña and banda music in México were certainly rural... the tuba and the accordion were brought into the mining camps by Germans long ago!
I caught 107.1 as well over in Bryan, TX. KLTN, despite being forced into a small tower, was also coming in strong.The unusually warm weather today has caused tropo to kick up along the Gulf Coast. This morning I was treated to some international reception, hearing decent signals from XHAVO Club Digital 101.5 as well as XHVTH La Comadre 107.1 out of the Mexico side of the LRGV.