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Oldest Extant Off-Air VHS/Beta Tape You Have

The oldest stuff I have is various Christmas Movies, Cartoons & Specials as well as (Maybe) 6 hours worth (One tape) of Soap Operas (All from the early 1990s)

The cartoon specials are unscoped (As in the commercials are still in them). The Movies & other Specials are scoped (As in the recording was paused when there were commercial breaks). This was done to fit more of them onto one tape (Due to their length, the Cartoons didn't need this)

I also have a 6 hour recording of NBC's coverage of the JFK Assassination As It Happened as broadcast by KBDI 12 (Of course the version David Von Pein has on his YouTube channel goes on longet than that)
 
Well, I got my VCR/DVD recorder combo back. The people at the repair shop were able to clean the tape path of all the stickiness the Anne Frank tape left behind, and they were able to do so quickly--brought it in yesterday, got it back today. But unfortunately, there is still the issue of the excessive buzzing from the Hi-Fi audio mechanism in the VCR. In all fairness, I did forget to mention that part when I brought it in yesterday, but I must have thought that would have been something they would have looked into on their own just from testing it out with a tape.
I just wish this was something I could look into fixing on my own safely like I see in quite a few YouTube tutorial videos. I personally would be too scared to try it myself because I'm afraid of either hurting myself or damaging the VCR in the process.
I did find this webpage that illustrates a possible cause of the buzzing sound (see sections 13.2, 13.9 and 13.10).

On top of that, there's an estate sale in Parma I was planning to stop by tomorrow that looks like it has quite a few more recorded tapes. Do I still go and pick those up and play them back and digitize them even with the Hi-Fi issue? Do I pick them up and wait to play them back until I figure out what the problem is? I really don't know what to do.
 
Scott2013 said:
Well, I got my VCR/DVD recorder combo back. The people at the repair shop were able to clean the tape path of all the stickiness the Anne Frank tape left behind, and they were able to do so quickly--brought it in yesterday, got it back today. But unfortunately, there is still the issue of the excessive buzzing from the Hi-Fi audio mechanism in the VCR. In all fairness, I did forget to mention that part when I brought it in yesterday, but I must have thought that would have been something they would have looked into on their own just from testing it out with a tape.
I just wish this was something I could look into fixing on my own safely like I see in quite a few YouTube tutorial videos. I personally would be too scared to try it myself because I'm afraid of either hurting myself or damaging the VCR in the process.
I did find this webpage that illustrates a possible cause of the buzzing sound (see sections 13.2, 13.9 and 13.10).

On top of that, there's an estate sale in Parma I was planning to stop by tomorrow that looks like it has quite a few more recorded tapes. Do I still go and pick those up and play them back and digitize them even with the Hi-Fi issue? Do I pick them up and wait to play them back until I figure out what the problem is? I really don't know what to do.
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Scott, I don't know if you do conversions for personal use, Internet Archive postings, Youtube, or just private trading, but its better to get the tapes and transfer them even with the Hi-Fi issue. Many old tapes aren't even recorded in Hi-Fi (most recordings I come across are Mono up until the 1990s). Also, once something is converted to digital, its possible to edit the sound to make it cleaner, I've seen results of such work online and it seems relatively easy to do.
 
With my latest round of selling well underway (check out my eBay listings for some Beta tapes that will go off on Monday), I decided to check out another Beta lot from the 'Bay(ou?) That as in JJ's Bayou Marketplace, based just outside of the Big Easy, where currently several lots of Beta tapes are listed. Based on the tape numbers, this comes from someone who literally taped A TON, and I mean a lot. This lot of ten tapes provided a nice cross sample between the earlier Beta stock and somewhat later tape stock. As you may sometimes expect, its the newer stock, in this case the tapes numbered in the 3000's (yes, triple digits meant that tens of thousands were purchased just on tapes), with all recordings taped in 1986 off of New Orleans stations. Two of the tapes that were numbered in the 790s were indeed taped around 1980, but sadly, all recordings were scoped, and this included an episode of the Three's Company spin-off The Ropers from 5/3/1980 with only the voiceover promo as well as about a minute from a WDSU newscast being all that's worthwhile saving, with other recordings including syndicated reruns of Star Trek, The Dick Van Dyke Show, as well as the 1980 special Johnny Cash: The First 25 Years and an episode of Mutual Of Omaha's Wild Kingdom also being zapped out. One tape from the 1986 stock, a near-dud, included a recording of Finian's Rainbow (1968) off HBO in November 1986 with just a couple minutes of promos before the movie. All 1980 recordings were in BII speed, with all 1986 tapings in BIII speed. Now on to the finds:

TAPE 1: This would normally be considered a dud tape due to no commercials or promos, but this tape contains a recording of the 1960 Natalie Wood/Robert Wagner flick "All The Fine Young Cannibals", from which the late '80s pop/rock band was named from, and is currently bootleg only with no official release and its copyright not due to expire for over 30 years from now, as well as only being accessible at watchnow.com that requires a fee, I'll keep that one. A scoped recording of Perry Mason: The Case of The Shooting Star off presumably WDSU/NBC from 11/8/1986 precedes the obscure movie.

TAPE 2: Loaded Pistols (1949) taped off CBN on 10/28/1986 with commercials, followed by a wee-hour double feature with Behave Yourself (1951) and Cause For Alarm (1951) taped off CBN from the next night with commercials

TAPE 3: The best find of the bunch, despite not quite totally ad zapper-free. Starts off with the 40th Annual Tony Awards taped off WWL/CBS on 6/1/1986 with about 60% of the commercials intact, followed by the Kraft All-Star Salute To Ford's Theatre off WWL/CBS on 6/25/1986 with most commercials (mostly for Kraft, of course), followed by a summer rerun of The Equalizer along with the WWL 10 PM News from 7/22/1986 with commercials, then it finishes up with a couple short clips from the WWL 10 PM News circa summer 1986 with no commercials

TAPE 4: C'mon, Let's Live A Little (1967) taped off USA on 10/29/1986 with commercials, followed by a couple of interstitials, one about a short documentary of Mexico hosted by Placido Domingo along with a Kim Carnes music video, then it switches over to WYES/PBS with The Mad Death, pt. 1 (BBC miniseries) along with the first eight minutes of the Nightly Business Report from the same night, along with a few promos between the programs

TAPE 5: WYES was one of the strangest PBS stations out there in terms of its programming, and this tape was no exception as it starts off with a classic episode of The Buick-Berle Show hosted by Mr. Television himself with a few promos, then this is followed by three pairs of WYES' back-to-back airings of the classic '60s sitcoms Hazel and The Flying Nun around October 1986, with a LARGE number of promo breaks that are comparable in frequency to what the commercial stations would air for syndication. This is followed by a few short news clips from various New Orleans stations to round out this tape.

TAPE 6: The Moon Is Blue (1953) and Big Jim McLain (1952) taped off WTBS on 10/29/1986 with commercials, followed by around a 20-minute portion of 20/20 off WVUE/ABC on 10/30/1986 with a few commercials

TAPE 7: Begins with classic shorts of The Little Rascals off WGNO circa August 1986 with no commercials, followed by about half of The Looney Tunes-Woody Woodpecker Hour along with several Three Stooges shorts also off WGNO from around August 1986 with commercials, followed by a few more shorts of The Little Rascals off WGNO with no ads, followed by more Three Stooges shorts off WGNO with commercials, then it finishes up with a classic 1962 episode of The Jetsons and around the first seven minutes of Heathcliff (1984) off WGNO around August 1986 with commercials

Another seller, videocultvintage, has more Beta tapes from the same source, so consider that if you're a fan of the Crescent City.

A bunch of VHS tapes from another online selling site will be up next, and although the seller is based in Wisconsin, all tapes have Burlington, VT-area stations on the labels, and this includes an NBC primetime drama block from 1991 among them along with Starman from 1987 as well as some Iran-Contra hearings tapes.
 
Well, that Parma estate sale I mentioned ended up netting me 24 VHS tapes and one Betamax tape. Still somewhat hesitant to digitize at the moment with the audio issue with my VCR. Based on what I've researched online, I suspect the culprit is a misaligned Hi-Fi audio head. The guy at the repair shop who worked on my VCR when I had it in the other day apparently is on vacation for a week (he's the one on the staff who specializes in A/V equipment), so unfortunately, it may be a while before I can bring it back.
I did, however, take a quick preview of all of the tapes I got yesterday. All but two were unmarked. A bit embarrassing this time around though, since I ended up finding several dirty movies in the mix (late night Cinemax fare). Plus the one Beta tape turned out to have quite a bit of Playboy TV content from the early to mid '80s, with promo blocks included. Will have to see if that tape has any other content within what could potentially be four and a half hours worth of tape in BIII speed.
Outside of that, however, based on what I briefly looked at on each tape, it looks like just about every one of these tapes will have some sort of YouTube-worthy content on them, even if it's nothing more than promo blocks from premium channels as opposed to commercial breaks. Did see some network and basic cable fare in the mix as well, including some TV Land shows (Green Acres is one of them), Live with Regis and Kelly, a PBS documentary about America's national parks, a Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue special on TNT, the 2003 Victoria's Secret Fashion Show on CBS, The Drew Carey Show, the final episodes of Friends and Frasier, etc. One tape also has Johnny Carson's last two episodes of The Tonight Show taped from WDIV in Detroit, including some local news from that station. There's also a WVIZ documentary on the history of radio in Cleveland, which I believe is already on YouTube. Most of these were recorded in SLP mode and in Hi-Fi stereo sound, although it's obviously still intermittent on my end.
Hopefully I can get everything fixed up so I can get a better look at these soon.
 
I just wrapped up searching that Mercari lot of 16 VHS tapes from Milton, WI (between Madison and Rockford). 12 keepers, with most of the tapes consisting of a lot of news-oriented broadcasts. Two duds included pay TV copies of Star Trek (1979) and a partial recording of The Empire Strikes Back (1980) on one tape, with another tape consisting several episodes of the action series Starman from 1987, but with the commercials zapped. Two "pass pile" tapes consisted of Inside The Space Station recorded off The Discover Channel in 2002 with commercials, along with a women's basketball game between Vermont and Saint John's from the same year, taped off WVNY/ABC on one tape, with another featuring recordings of CSI: New York, Blue Bloods, The People's Court, and an NCAA football game from 2012 with commercials. Most of the other tapes were recorded off Chicago stations despite the seller residing in between two smaller markets.

Now for the keepers:

TAPE 1: Matlock, In The Heat of the Night, Law and Order, and about the first 15 minutes of the WMAQ 10 PM News off WMAQ/NBC with varying amounts of commercials during the primetime block (only a few during Matlock, none during In The Heat of the Night, and about half during Law and Order along with the newscast). The tape then jumps to syndicated episodes of Perfect Strangers, Cheers, and part of Night Court taped off WGN in February 1991 with commercials (including local Chicago spots given that its national feed had eliminated them in favor of a lot of direct marketing ads with 800 numbers. I'd wish the primetime block had more of the ads present, but I'll keep the Law and Order potion, given that the show had such a slow start in its first few years. Scotch T-120

TAPE 2: Afternoon coverage of the Iran-Contra Hearings off WLS/ABC on 7/9/1987 with a few commercials, followed by most of the WLS 10 PM newscast from the same night with commercials, then it cuts to morning coverage of the hearings from the next day of WLS/ABC with a few commercials Kodak T-120

TAPE 3: Another tape full of Iran-Contra content, starting this time from the afternoon session off WLS/ABC on 7/8/1987 with a few commercials (includes recess portions with special discussion with the ABC News team), followed by about half of the WLS 10 PM News and Nightline from the same night with some commercials, followed by morning coverage from the next day off WLS, which continues on with the content on tape 2. Kodak T-120

TAPE 4: Two episodes from the 1970s run of Columbo off A&E on 11/28/1994 with commercials, followed by another classic Columbo episode off A&E on 12/1/1994 with ads, followed by one more Columbo episode off A&E from 12/2/1994 with ads. Memorex T-120

TAPE 5: Nightline and Politically Incorrect taped off WLS/ABC on 5/16/1997 with commercials (I've already got this off WJLA), followed by most of Fox News Sunday off WFLD/Fox on 5/18/1997 with commercials, followed by episodes of Meet The Press and Dateline NBC off WMAQ/NBC from the same day with commercials, followed by Primetime Sunday off WLS/ABC also from 5/18/1997 with commercials. Fuji T-120

TAPE 6: Star Trek III (1984) taped off an unknown station circa 1987 with no commercials, followed by two early episodes of Star Trek: The Next Generation from September 1987 with no ads, followed by an episode of ABC News Nightline off WLS/ABC from late September 1987 with a few ads. Polaroid T-120

TAPE 7: Part of the 1994 World Cup Round of 16 match between the Netherlands and Ireland (beginning a few minutes before halftime) off ESPN on 7/4/1994 with commercials (ironically, not the Brazil-USA match that's more commonly found but sadly didn't have the best ending for America's birthday), followed by the last few minutes of stage 2 coverage of the Tour De France and approximately the first 15 minutes of LPGA Magazine off ESPN on 7/3/1994 with commercials. Maxell T-120

TAPE 8: Episodes of ABC News 20/20, the WLS 10 PM News, Nightline, Rush Limbaugh, and most of the Les Brown Show off WLS/ABC on 10/29/1993 with commercials, followed by part of the premiere of the short-lived Paula Poundstone Show off WLS/ABC from 10/30/1993 with some commercials, followed by Meet The Press off WMAQ/NBC from 10/31/1993 with commercials, followed by most of Unsolved Mysteries off WMAQ/NBC on 11/3/1993 with some commercials, followed by part of the MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour off WTTW/PBS from the same night with a few promos. Maxell GX Silver T-120

TAPE 9: Begins with 48 Hours off WBBM/CBS on 1/12/1994 with commercials, followed by Primetime Live, various Chicago 10 PM News clips, Nightline, and Rush Limbaugh mostly off WLS/ABC on 1/13/1994 with most commercials, followed by ABC News 20/20 and Nightline off WLS on 1/14/1994 with most ads, then it wraps up with most of Meet The Press off WMAQ/NBC on 1/16/1994 with commercials. Another Maxell GS Silver T-120

TAPE 10: Nightline off WLS/ABC on 5/11/1987 with no commercials, followed by various coverage of the Iran-Contra hearings off WTTW/PBS on 5/12/1987 with some promos (sadly, most of the video in this portion is in black & white). Polaroid T-120

TAPE 11: Most of Suddenly Susan, ER, and the first several minutes of the WPTZ 11 PM News off WPTZ/NBC on 12/19/1996 with commercials, followed by most of the Access Hollywood Icons special episode off WPTZ on 11/11/1996 with commercials. Maxwell T-120

TAPE 12: Stars off with short footage from the end of the second testimony segment from the Iran-Contra Hearings off WREX/ABC on 5/8/1987 with no commercials, followed by most of ABC News Business World and This Week with David Brinkley off WREX/ABC on 5/10/1987 with commercials, followed by Meet The Press from the same day off WTVO/NBC with commercials, followed by the last several minutes of Bold & The Beautiful along with a CBS News Special Report (sorry, As The World Turns fans) on the McFarland Testimony off WIFR/CBS on 5/11/1987 with a few commercials. Polaroid T-120.

That same seller has listed a second, similar lot recently on Mercari if you're interested.
 
Well, I decided to give it ago for that second lot of tapes from the same seller above, and once again found a nice haul of mainly '90s Chicagoland content, in particular regarding newscasts, but with a few more non-news related finds compared to last time. Most tapes were recorded in EP speed. Two duds were found, one of them a rental copy of the 1987 Lorimar Home Video release about a 1982 skiing movie. Two "sell pile" tapes included most of the 2002 Opening Ceremonies of the Salt Lake Winter Olympics with commercials, but ending right after the torch was ignited, and a tape recorded off OLN featuring episodes of The Surfers Journal and Surfers Magazine from around February/March 2000 commercials (recorded in SP mode). Now for the keepers:

TAPE 1: The HBO original movie presentation of And The Band Played On along with Only You (1992), with promos after each movie. Maxwell T-120

TAPE 2: Episodes of ABC News Nightline and Rush Limbaugh recorded off WLS/ABC on 12/1/1993 with commercials, followed by Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In Past and Christmas Present and most of the WMAQ 10 PM News off WMAQ/NBC on 12/2/1993 with commercials, then it jumps to the last few minutes of the WLS 10 PM News, more episodes of Nightline and Rush Limbaugh from the same night, part of the Les Brown Show, then it continues on with ABC News 20/20, part of the WLS 10 PM News, then finishing up with most of Nightline and Rush Limbaugh, all off WLS on 12/3/1993 with commercials. Polaroid T-120

TAPE 3: Chock full of PBS content off of a couple New England affiliates, this tape starts off with the NOVA episode about Rollercoasters off WETK on 11/16/1993 with promos after the show, followed by the Scientific American Frontiers episode Science Of Sports off WETK in late 1993 with a few promos, followed by another episode of NOVA "To Catch A Buckeyball" taped off WETK on 12/19/1995 with promos, followed by an episode of The New Explorers also taped off WETK in December 1995 with a few promos, followed by two episodes of Newton's Apple (The Kenya Special and "Why do birds sing?) taped off WGBH in late 1995 with promos, then it wraps up with one more episode of NOVA along with the beginning of Frontline off WETK on 1/2/1996 with promos. Memorex T-120

TAPE 4: Starts out with a portion of the Monday Night Football game off WLS/ABC on 10/11/1993 with commercials (late in the 3rd quarter and part of the 4th quarter), followed by Rush Limbaugh off WLS from the same night with commercials, followed by episodes of ABC News Nightline and Rush Limbaugh off WLS on 10/13/1993 with commercials, followed by episodes of ABC Primetime Live, Nightline, and Rush Limbaugh off WLS on 10/14/1993 with commercials, followed by 20/20, part of the WLS 10 PM News, and one more episode of Rush Limbaugh off WLS on 10/15/1993 with commercials. Scotch HS T-120

TAPE 5: The complete, five-part series of The Brain: Our Universe Within taped off The Discovery Channel on 10/2, 10/3, and 10/4/1994 with commercials. Maxell T-120 GX-Silver

TAPE 6: Starts off with 20/20, the WLS 10 PM News, and Nightline taped off WLS/ABC on 8/6/1993 with commercials, followed by part of Meet The Press, CityDesk, and the first few minutes of a Saved By The Bell rerun taped off WMAQ/NBC on 8/8/1993 with ads, followed by most of This Week With David Brinkley recorded off WLS/ABC from that same morning with commercials. Another Maxell T-120 GX-Silver

TAPE 7: Starts off with ABC News 20/20 off WVNY/ABC on 11/26/1993 with commercials (the recorder must of had a second home in the area), followed by Fighter Pilots taped off WETK/PBS circa 1995 with a few promos, followed by episodes of Nightly Business Report from 5/30, 5/31, 6/1, 6/2, 6/5, and 6/6/1995 off WETK/PBS with promos, with an episode of Wall $treet Week following the 6/5 NBR episode. Fuji HQ 120.

TAPE 8: ABC News Day One and the Saturday Night Movie presentation of Lies & Lullabies and the first couple minutes of the WLS 10 PM on 3/13/1993 with commercials. Scotch High Grade T-120

TAPE 9: Starts off with most of Meet The Press off WMAQ/NBC on 10/6/1996 with commercials, followed by 60 Minutes off WBBM/NBC from the same day with ads, followed by the Vice Presidential Debate coverage off WTTW/PBS on 10/9/1996 with post-debate commentary, followed by The American Experience: Teddy Roosevelt taped off WTTW/PBS on 10/11/1996 with promos, then the tape rounds up with a short clip from the WLS 10 PM News from October 1996 with a few commercials. I've already got the Meet The Press and 60 Minutes episodes from previous finds. Maxwell GX-Silver T-120

TAPE 10: Nightline taped off WLS/ABC on 4/10/1989 with some commercials, followed by a short clip from The Pat Sajak Show off presumably WBBM/CBS from the same night, followed by another episode of Nightline off WLS/ABC from April 1989 with commercials, followed by most of an episode of the short-lived syndicated late show Day's End off WLS from April 1989 with commercials. Scotch T-30

TAPE 11: ABC Primetime Live, most of the WLS 10 PM News (missing just the sports segment), Nightline, and Rush Limbaugh taped off WLS/ABC on 3/3/1994 with commercials, followed by The Adventures of Brisco County, Jr. off WFLD/FOX on 3/4/1994 with commercials, followed by 20/20, most of the WLS 10 PM News, Nightline and Rush Limbaugh off WLS/ABC from that same night with commercials. Features a story on the launch of the only Space Shuttle flight that I got to witness in person. Memorex T-120

TAPE 12: Begins with most of Meet The Press taped off WMAQ/NBC on 12/26/1993 with commercials, followed by This Week With David Brinkley off WLS/ABC from that same day with commercials, followed by WBBM Newsmakers and 60 Minutes recorded off WBBM/CBS from that same day with commercials (a good number of "after Christmas" ads as you may expect, followed by most of the Legend to Legend Night special off WMAQ/NBC on 12/28/1993 with a few commercials (I've already got this complete special unscoped in a trade), followed by a portion of the WGN 9 PM News and part of Dateline NBC from that same night off WMAQ with a few commercials. Memorex T-120

Probably just before we bid adieu to 2024, I'll have one last Beta lot coming in from southern California that's believed to have a lot of Sony L-830's full of the Los Angeles Summer Olympics. Will the finds be enough for this year to reach the podium when it arrives? Stay tuned. Just have a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays, and understand that the magic of the season prevails while looking for these tapes, while never worrying about the perils of modern media, including subscription price increases/service/content adjustments and password sharing crackdowns!
 
Great finds as always! I definitely would be interested in Tape #8, which I just realized is actually from March 14, 1993, and comprises most of the ABC block from that night minus the hour of America's Funniest Videos/People. I also would be interested in the stuff on Tape #10 and the content from Tape #12 from December 26, 1993. No rush though as I am sure that would take awhile to convert.
 
My current oldest is a recording of Clint Eastwood's "Sudden Impact" which was the first thing I recorded when I bought my first VHS machine in 1985. I still have all my old library of movies and the machine today. I still watch them with the VTR on occassions. I don't have the time to digitize my many tapes.
 
Well, the Beta tapes came in, and for the most part, it was a great trip back in time with most of the tapes (19 out of 21) chock full of epic footage from the aforementioned '84 Summer Olympics. Although the seller was from Orange County, all recordings came off of KGO up the coast. Approximately 80% of the commercial breaks were intact, including a number of local newsbreaks that lasted several minutes. Most of the tapes were labeled from 1 to 19 along the side, indicating a proper order of the Olympics, with Tape 1 consisting of the opening ceremony along with about two hours of coverage from the first game of competition, with Tape 19 beginning with approximate an hour's worth of coverage from the final Saturday of the Olympics (8/11/1984), followed by about 3 1/2 hours of coverage from the daytime portion of the final day. The closing ceremony wasn't found in this lot, but I've already got much of it off of WPXI from that 2019 lot. All tapes had at least 4 hours and 45 minutes present, with many going the full five hours (these were all Sony L-830's in BIII speed, and first generation recordings). A good amount of daytime coverage was found in addition to the primetime events, with approximately 90 hours in Olympic footage found in total. Newscasts found within this haul include the last half hour of Good Morning America from 7/30/1984, the first ten minutes of the KGO late news (airing at 9 PM) on 8/1/1984, another partial late newscast off KGO from 8/7/1984, most of the 8/9/1984 broadcast of the post-primetime KGO News, the full broadcasts of the 8/8, 8/10 and 8/11/1984 KGO late newscasts, as well as approximately the first 20 minutes of the late afternoon edition of the KGO News on 8/3/1984, all with commercials intact. The two other tapes in this lot didn't contain any commercials or promos, but one of them consisted of an off-air, Betacord recording of a recital at the San Francisco (& Marin) YWCA entitled "Students of Liang-Youwen", lasting for 3 1/2 hours, located on the downslope of Nob Hill towards Chinatown and the Financial District, with the Transamerica Pyramid visible at times behind one of the windows. (That YWCA branch still stands today). Speaking of which, that Transamerica commercial featuring King Kong appeared A LOT over the course of those games, meaning that it probably wasn't a bad thing to have occasional breaks paused out instead of seeing that McDonald's "If the USA wins, you win" spot every other break. The other tape simply consisted of nearly the final hour of the Great Performances New Year's Eve Bash from the New York Philharmonic off KCSM on 12/31/1984 with no promos, followed by a performance of Mozart's Concerto For Violin No. 5 off Bravo circa early 1985 with no promos. With the Olympics returning to LA in 2028, these are sure to be worth posting and holding on to, especially given that these don't contain any fans holding cellphones nor plugs for social media and the Internet.

I do have a special alert for all YouTubers (especially retrontartio) as the Grinch from Historica Canada sin binned me two days before Christmas on one of my YouTube channels with a copyright strike for using a video with a bunch of commercials that aired on Ontario's ONTV on Christmas 1998 during the Munsters Christmas Movie, where I was whistled for using one of the Heritage Minutes short. DO NOT POST ANY HERITAGE MINUTES!

Still, it was a fantastic finish to a great year of finds. Everything from a bunch of Super Bowls from mostly the '90s with commercials, halftime shows, and some with the pregame, to NASCAR races, MLB games from the '80s, soap operas from as early as 1980 along with a full episode of Capitol, several game shows including my first finds of Tattletales, Tic Tac Dough, and Body Language, two hours from an NBC Saturday Night sitcom block from 1990, several Animaniacs and Pokémon episodes from early in their runs, a She-Ra and Chuck Norris cartoon mini-block from 1986, several Christmas specials, an episode of New York Hot Tracks from 1985, two hours of MTV from 1985 from the night after Live Aid, the obscure music show Mystic Scoop from 1994, talk shows from the '80s and '90s including several episodes of Jerry Springer from the 1993-94 season and two episodes of Oprah from 1986, Murder, She Wrote and Crazy Like A Fox finds from 1984-85, and lots of TV movies, mini-series finds, and newscasts. My oldest find this year was a partial episode of The Tonight Show from 1978 with George Carlin as guest host, not my oldest ever, but enough overall finds to rank this as my second best year behind 2019. Of course, we'll see how much longer we can all keep up as AI continues to negatively impact the web in some ways, including the removal of many listings with blank tapes, even if I still managed to snag a few here and there. Hopefully 2025 will continue to deliver more great classic TV finds!
 
Hope everyone had a pleasant holiday as we draw closer to the new year.

Update #1: I brought my Insignia VCR/DVD recorder back into the repair shop. The guy who worked on it last time was able to take a quick look at it immediately while I was still there and put a tape in after I gave it to him, and he confirmed that there is definitely a Hi-Fi audio problem with the VCR. He said he'll figure out what exactly the problem is, but of course, with the holidays, no telling whether he got around to that yet or not. I haven't gotten a call back from him on an estimate yet.

Update #2: I got a new Reshow cassette player and converter for Christmas, but unfortunately, when I tested it out earlier, it sounded like it might be a dud because it played all of the tapes I tested it out with noticeably distorted. I'm wondering if this similar unit linked below will fare me any better if I were to get one. The description says the company uses high-quality metal cassette player heads for smoother playback, so I like the sound of that, but let's just hope they're telling the truth.

Once I do get a decent cassette player/digitizer, I have quite a few radio recordings that I have yet to upload on YouTube or the Internet Archive. One of them I just listened to is a broadcast of The Children's Radio Funhouse with Mark Zimmerman on WCRF circa 1995. Zimmerman now does mornings on Heartfelt Radio (91.9 WKJA in Brunswick). I also have a WCRF Christmas broadcast from sometime in the '90s, was unable to nail down what year based on what little I heard of it. A few years ago, I got several tapes of WZLE and WUJC recordings ranging from 1988 to 1992 that I never got around to converting. And more recently, I found the oldest radio content I currently have, recordings of WSLR circa 1974.
 
Scott2013 said:
Hope everyone had a pleasant holiday as we draw closer to the new year.

Update #1: I brought my Insignia VCR/DVD recorder back into the repair shop. The guy who worked on it last time was able to take a quick look at it immediately while I was still there and put a tape in after I gave it to him, and he confirmed that there is definitely a Hi-Fi audio problem with the VCR. He said he'll figure out what exactly the problem is, but of course, with the holidays, no telling whether he got around to that yet or not. I haven't gotten a call back from him on an estimate yet.

Update #2: I got a new Reshow cassette player and converter for Christmas, but unfortunately, when I tested it out earlier, it sounded like it might be a dud because it played all of the tapes I tested it out with noticeably distorted. I'm wondering if this similar unit linked below will fare me any better if I were to get one. The description says the company uses high-quality metal cassette player heads for smoother playback, so I like the sound of that, but let's just hope they're telling the truth.

Once I do get a decent cassette player/digitizer, I have quite a few radio recordings that I have yet to upload on YouTube or the Internet Archive. One of them I just listened to is a broadcast of The Children's Radio Funhouse with Mark Zimmerman on WCRF circa 1995. Zimmerman now does mornings on Heartfelt Radio (91.9 WKJA in Brunswick). I also have a WCRF Christmas broadcast from sometime in the '90s, was unable to nail down what year based on what little I heard of it. A few years ago, I got several tapes of WZLE and WUJC recordings ranging from 1988 to 1992 that I never got around to converting. And more recently, I found the oldest radio content I currently have, recordings of WSLR circa 1974.
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Don’t buy a cheap digitizer from Amazon, buy one from an electronics store or ask someone here or at the repair shop the best one to buy.
 
More bad news, this time from another PBS affiliate simply because it was merely being broadcasted on that station, despite just being interstitials between shows.



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Basically, DO NOT POST ANYTHING FROM WQED, EVEN IF ITS JUST A STATION ID! I had to take down a couple pledge breaks from my channels as a result of this, and this strike was posted on CHRISTMAS DAY OF ALL DAYS! (And also from a time that's almost as old today as what Pearl Harbor was then!) The email behind the complainant was [email protected]. That's right, Grinches are definitely behind YouTube, and with the YouTube TV price increase in a couple weeks, I predict 2025 may be a troublesome year for the platform. Imagine if EVERY local TV station simply removed videos and commercial compilations just because it was broadcast on that affiliate; that would essentially turn YT into a ghost town for classic media. That means two of my three channels are now held hostage to strikes. If anything, strikes should be obsolete in these days of AI that always pre-block videos without being nuked.
 
pannoni1 said:
Well, the Beta tapes came in, and for the most part, it was a great trip back in time with most of the tapes (19 out of 21) chock full of epic footage from the aforementioned '84 Summer Olympics. Although the seller was from Orange County, all recordings came off of KGO up the coast. Approximately 80% of the commercial breaks were intact, including a number of local newsbreaks that lasted several minutes. Most of the tapes were labeled from 1 to 19 along the side, indicating a proper order of the Olympics, with Tape 1 consisting of the opening ceremony along with about two hours of coverage from the first game of competition, with Tape 19 beginning with approximate an hour's worth of coverage from the final Saturday of the Olympics (8/11/1984), followed by about 3 1/2 hours of coverage from the daytime portion of the final day. The closing ceremony wasn't found in this lot, but I've already got much of it off of WPXI from that 2019 lot. All tapes had at least 4 hours and 45 minutes present, with many going the full five hours (these were all Sony L-830's in BIII speed, and first generation recordings). A good amount of daytime coverage was found in addition to the primetime events, with approximately 90 hours in Olympic footage found in total. Newscasts found within this haul include the last half hour of Good Morning America from 7/30/1984, the first ten minutes of the KGO late news (airing at 9 PM) on 8/1/1984, another partial late newscast off KGO from 8/7/1984, most of the 8/9/1984 broadcast of the post-primetime KGO News, the full broadcasts of the 8/8, 8/10 and 8/11/1984 KGO late newscasts, as well as approximately the first 20 minutes of the late afternoon edition of the KGO News on 8/3/1984, all with commercials intact. The two other tapes in this lot didn't contain any commercials or promos, but one of them consisted of an off-air, Betacord recording of a recital at the San Francisco (& Marin) YWCA entitled "Students of Liang-Youwen", lasting for 3 1/2 hours, located on the downslope of Nob Hill towards Chinatown and the Financial District, with the Transamerica Pyramid visible at times behind one of the windows. (That YWCA branch still stands today). Speaking of which, that Transamerica commercial featuring King Kong appeared A LOT over the course of those games, meaning that it probably wasn't a bad thing to have occasional breaks paused out instead of seeing that McDonald's "If the USA wins, you win" spot every other break. The other tape simply consisted of nearly the final hour of the Great Performances New Year's Eve Bash from the New York Philharmonic off KCSM on 12/31/1984 with no promos, followed by a performance of Mozart's Concerto For Violin No. 5 off Bravo circa early 1985 with no promos. With the Olympics returning to LA in 2028, these are sure to be worth posting and holding on to, especially given that these don't contain any fans holding cellphones nor plugs for social media and the Internet.

I do have a special alert for all YouTubers (especially retrontartio) as the Grinch from Historica Canada sin binned me two days before Christmas on one of my YouTube channels with a copyright strike for using a video with a bunch of commercials that aired on Ontario's ONTV on Christmas 1998 during the Munsters Christmas Movie, where I was whistled for using one of the Heritage Minutes short. DO NOT POST ANY HERITAGE MINUTES!

Still, it was a fantastic finish to a great year of finds. Everything from a bunch of Super Bowls from mostly the '90s with commercials, halftime shows, and some with the pregame, to NASCAR races, MLB games from the '80s, soap operas from as early as 1980 along with a full episode of Capitol, several game shows including my first finds of Tattletales, Tic Tac Dough, and Body Language, two hours from an NBC Saturday Night sitcom block from 1990, several Animaniacs and Pokémon episodes from early in their runs, a She-Ra and Chuck Norris cartoon mini-block from 1986, several Christmas specials, an episode of New York Hot Tracks from 1985, two hours of MTV from 1985 from the night after Live Aid, the obscure music show Mystic Scoop from 1994, talk shows from the '80s and '90s including several episodes of Jerry Springer from the 1993-94 season and two episodes of Oprah from 1986, Murder, She Wrote and Crazy Like A Fox finds from 1984-85, and lots of TV movies, mini-series finds, and newscasts. My oldest find this year was a partial episode of The Tonight Show from 1978 with George Carlin as guest host, not my oldest ever, but enough overall finds to rank this as my second best year behind 2019. Of course, we'll see how much longer we can all keep up as AI continues to negatively impact the web in some ways, including the removal of many listings with blank tapes, even if I still managed to snag a few here and there. Hopefully 2025 will continue to deliver more great classic TV finds!
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That's great. But I thought you meant the closing ceremony that was taped off of KABC, not WPXI. Once you convert those tapes to digital, will you upload me the link?

Danny
 
pannoni1 said:
More bad news, this time from another PBS affiliate simply because it was merely being broadcasted on that station, despite just being interstitials between shows.



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Basically, DO NOT POST ANYTHING FROM WQED, EVEN IF ITS JUST A STATION ID! I had to take down a couple pledge breaks from my channels as a result of this, and this strike was posted on CHRISTMAS DAY OF ALL DAYS! (And also from a time that's almost as old today as what Pearl Harbor was then!) The email behind the complainant was [email protected]. That's right, Grinches are definitely behind YouTube, and with the YouTube TV price increase in a couple weeks, I predict 2025 may be a troublesome year for the platform. Imagine if EVERY local TV station simply removed videos and commercial compilations just because it was broadcast on that affiliate; that would essentially turn YT into a ghost town for classic media. That means two of my three channels are now held hostage to strikes. If anything, strikes should be obsolete in these days of AI that always pre-block videos without being nuked.
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Now that is indeed surprising!! And very strange!!
 
Thanks for that warning. WQED might be an exception due to Mister Rogers (they are super-protective of that show). I wouldn't be surprised if WGBH also tries to protect their property as much as possible.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if that applied to all major market public tv stations - if they can or think they can make money on YouTube or other platforms via their archives, they will come down hard on anybody posting their stuff, even if that person isn't making money from it.
 
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Thanks for that warning. WQED might be an exception due to Mister Rogers (they are super-protective of that show). I wouldn't be surprised if WGBH also tries to protect their property as much as possible.
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I've seen episodes of Nova and This Old House being targeted by WGBH before. I'm always open to any out-of-market content coming into my collection, but hopefully I don't come across anything from WQED anytime soon. I've found a tape of episodes of The Big Comfy Couch taped from WGBH without any promos once before in an online lot I purchased years ago.
 
I've just finished my latest tape lot, providing my first finds of 2025. This was a lot of 35 Beta tapes from a seller that currently lives just outside of Albany, NY, but most of the recordings come from closer to the border. In fact, this lot probably provided my greatest share of finds from "The World Next Door". Sure, there were the usual duds such as a scoped M*A*S*H finale, Gone With The Wind, a tape with three episodes of Hill Street Blues that scoped out the intros and credits in addition to the commercials, TWO copies of The Wizard Of Oz (including a CBC copy with just a network promo after the movie), a blank with nothing found, along with a couple tapes which were recorded off pay TV, but had VERY brief promo breaks that typical went from the "Up next" bumper, a network generic promo or ID, followed by the feature presentation logo. But best of all, this shows that all-'80s lots still exist, and the success of The Wrath Of Khan may of had a lot to do with this recorder. There was also a head cleaner that worked fine after testing it. Now on with the lot, entirely in BIII:

TAPE 1: Parts one through five of The Royal Shakespeare Company's presentation of The Life and Adventures of Nicholas Nickleby, recorded off WSTM on consecutive nights from 1/10-1/14/1983 with some intermission breaks (all PSAs from the Mobil Oil Showcase, which provided the American premiere to other stations around that same time, including WNEW in NYC). Originally airing on the then-new Channel Four in Britain in November 1982, this also aired on many PBS stations as well as A&E through the remainder of the 1980s into the early 1990s.

TAPE 2: Parts six through eight of The Life and Adventures of Nicholas Nickelby, taped off WSTM on 1/17, 1/18, and 1/19/1983 with intermission breaks. Unfortunately, the closing is missing.

TAPE 3: HBO Standing Room Only presentation of Simon & Garfunkel: The Concert In Central Park from February 1982 with a few promos before the special

TAPES 4-9: Six tapes total with each comprising of three (for the two L-500 tapes) or four episodes (for the four L-750 tapes) of Star Trek, recorded off CKWS from September-November 1982 with commercials. One of the tapes also contains an episode of Three's Company, another contains a partial episode of Star Trek after four complete ones, and another consists of an episode of the short-lived sitcom Harper Valley P.T.A. along with about the first eight minutes of the CKWS 6 PM News from 10/8/1982 with commercials. Another partial early '80s newscast from a smaller Canadian market! (I found that partial 1980 CHEK newscast a few years ago) I've found a few of the same classic Star Trek episodes off 1987 WTTG broadcasts about six years ago, but the majority of these are first finds along with the earliest Star Trek broadcasts with the ads intact that I've uncovered. That's right, SIX tapes full of content from the same market that brought you ice hockey!

TAPE 10: It's A Wonderful Life (1946) taped off WPNE in December 1982 with three pledge breaks, totaling about 30 minutes total. A nice small market find from the Watertown, NY PBS affiliate where a White Christmas is a good bet.

TAPE 11: Final Assignment (1980), the series premiere of Not Necessarily The News, and about half of Superman II (1980) taped off HBO on 1/4/1983 with promos (including one for Star Wars) after each feature.

TAPE 12: Stripes (1981) taped off Cinemax circa 1983, followed by an episode from the premiere of the short-lived 1983 version of Casablanca along with the first 10 minutes of the WSTM 11 PM News off WSTM/NBC on 4/10/1983 with commercials

TAPE 13: Raiders Of The Lost Ark (1981) taped off HBO circa 1984 with no promos, followed by the majority of the women's finals of the Virginia Slims Tennis Championships (Martina Navratilova vs. Chris Evert Lloyd), Ovation (joined in progress), and the first few minutes of You (a fashion-oriented TV show) off USA on 3/4/1984 with commercials

TAPE 14: The Wizard Of Oz (1939) taped off an unknown station (presumably WTVH/CBS) with no commercials, followed by about the last 20 minutes of Peter The Great from February 1986 off WSTM with a few commercial breaks (I've already found this off WOC and recently digitized the first two parts and will post the ads soon), followed by 20 minutes of an episode of Nightly Business Report from early 1986 off presumably WCNY/PBS.

TAPE 15: Most of Hill Street Blues (well into summer reruns already given that the last series finale aired on 4/3/1986), the WSTM 11 PM News, The Tonight Show, Late Night with David Letterman, and the sign-off off WSTM/NBC on 5/15/1986 with commercials. The tape quality is snowy at times so that new cleaner came in handy, but it's hard to beat NBC's classic late night lineup that includes a mid-major market newscast.

TAPE 16: Upstairs, Downstairs: A Pair of Exiles (episode five of the PBS miniseries), the Bounder episode "Third Party" (Britcom), a 1980 episode of Agony (an ITV import), along with the sign-off from WPNE from May 1987, with promos after each show

This will segue soon into my first VHS lot, with many labels showing various first-run Star Trek episodes (TNG, DS9, Voyager) from the '90s, with a good chance with the ads intact due to some tapes mentioning "1 hour" on them, along with another tape with the label "Network News" from 1990. I should have the results posted by this weekend.
 
Mission accomplished for the aforementioned VHS tape lot that delivered on every tape regarding at least fifteen minutes of good stuff. This batch of 35 tapes would make any Trekkie be proud, and while most of the recordings come from Star Trek: TNG and Deep Space Nine (DS9), there were a number of non-trek finds, including some national/local news, a few TV movies, some classic Doctor Who episodes, and even a partial FOX sitcom from its early years. Only one tape, a broadcast of the first part of Earth Star Voyager from the Disney Sunday Movie from 1/17/1988 off WRTV, was previously found off KXLY in 2017.

All recordings are off Indianapolis stations and in LP mode with commercials intact unless otherwise specified. Going generally in reverse chronological order by find:

TAPE 1: Episodes of Star Trek: DS9 (ST: DS9) from 10/4 (the sixth season premiere), 10/27, 11/8, and 11/15/1997 off WXIN

TAPE 2: Episodes of ST: DS9 from 5/17 and 5/24/1997 off WXIN followed by a rerun of the 1994 Museum of Sci-Fi special off WXIN/FOX on 5/26/1997 along with the first ten minutes of the late news, including coverage of the second postponement of the 1997 Indy 500

TAPE 3: The FOX world premiere presentation of Alien Nation: The Enemy Within off WXIN on 11/12/1996, followed by episodes of ST: DS9 on 4/5 and 4/12/1997 off WXIN

TAPE 4: Episodes of ST: DS9 from 2/17, 2/24, 3/3, and 3/10/1997 off WXIN. The fourth episode, "Jake In War", was a rerun and marked as (RR) on the label

TAPE 5: Episodes of ST: DS9 from 6/24, 7/22, 11/18, and 11/25/1996 off WXIN, the first two being summer reruns

TAPE 6: Episodes of ST: DS9 from 10/5 (the fifth season premiere), 10/21, 12/2, and 12/9/1996 off WXIN, with the last episode being a rerun

TAPE 7: Episodes of ST: DS9 from 11/4, 11/11, 11/20 (a rerun), and 11/25/1995 off WXIN

TAPE 8: A summer rerun of ST: DS9 from 8/7/1995 off WXIN, followed by an episode of Alien Autopsy from 9/4/1995 off WXIN/FOX, followed by Dateline NBC off WTHR/NBC on 9/5/1995

TAPE 9: Starts off with Tango & Cash (1989), the ABC Monday Movie off WRTV on 1/23/1995, followed by episodes of ST: DS9 from 2/4 and 4/15/1995 off WXIN

TAPE 10: The world premiere movie presentation of Earth 2 off WTHR/NBC on 11/6/1994, followed by episodes of ST: DS9 from 1/2 and 1/9/1995 off WXIN.

TAPE 11: Star Trek 6: The Undiscovered Country (1991) taped off WTHR/NBC. SP mode, and this was obviously done in tandem with the upcoming release of Generations.

TAPE 12: ST: DS9 taped off WXIN on 3/26/1994, followed by Star Trek: The Next Generation (ST: TNG) off the same station on 3/28/1994, followed by another episode of ST: DS9 off WXIN on 4/2/1994, followed by another ST:TNG episode off WXIN on 4/4/1994.

TAPE 13: Episodes of ST: DS9 from 2/22 and 3/1/1994 off WXIN, followed by episodes of ST: TNG off 3/7 and and 3/21/1994 off WXIN

TAPE 14: ST: TNG from 2/12/1994 off WXIN, followed by ST: DS9 from 2/15/1994 off the same station, followed by more episodes of ST: TNG from 2/19 and 2/21/1994 off WXIN, one of them a rerun

TAPE 15: Armed And Innocent, The CBS Tuesday Movie taped off WISH on 1/4/1994, followed by episodes of ST: DS9 and ST: TNG from 1/15/1994 off WXIN.

TAPE 16: Episodes of ST: DS9 and TNG from 12/4/1993 off WXIN, followed by Doctor Who: Creature From The Pit (1979) and about the first half of Sneak Previews off WFVI on 12/19/1993 with promos between the shows

TAPE 17: Episodes of ST: DS9 and ST: TNG from 11/27/1993 off WXIN, followed by Doctor Who: Armageddon Factor (1979) off WFYI on 11/28/1993 with no promos

TAPE 18: Episodes of ST: DS9 and ST: TNG from 11/20/1993 off WXIN, followed by Doctor Who: Power of Kroll (1978) off WFYI on 11/21/1993 with a few promos

TAPE 19: Episodes of ST: DS9 and ST: TNG from 11/6/1993 off WXIN, followed by more episodes of ST: DS9 and ST: TNG from 11/13/1993 off WXIN

TAPE 20: Episodes of ST: DS9 and ST: TNG from 10/23/1993 off WXIN, followed by more episodes of ST: DS9 and ST: TNG from 10/30/1993 off WXIN

TAPE 21: ST: TNG from 6/21/1993 off WXIN (the sixth season finale), followed by the first season finale of ST: DS9 from the next day off WXIN, followed by more episodes of ST: TNG from 9/26 (the seventh season premiere) and 10/2/1993 off WXIN

TAPE 22: A pair of 1975 episodes of Doctor Who from 5/16 and 5/23/1993 off WFYI with a few promos, followed by ST: TNG from 6/14/1993 off WXIN

TAPE 23: ST: DS9 from 6/1/1993 off WXIN, followed by ST: TNG from 6/3/1993 off WXIN, followed by Doctor Who: Planet Of Fire (1984) off WFYI/PBS on 6/13/1993 with a few promos

TAPE 24: Episodes of ST: TNG from 2/22 and 3/1/1993 off WXIN, followed by ST: DS9 from 3/16/1993 off WXIN, followed by ST: TNG from 3/20/1993 off WXIN

TAPE 25: Episodes of NBC Nightly News off WTHR/NBC on 10/16 and 10/19/1990, followed by episodes of ST: TNG from 10/19 and 10/20/1990 off WXIN (the first being a rerun), followed by another episode of NBC Nightly News off WTHR on 10/22/1990, followed by last several minutes of the WTHR 5 PM News and most of the NBC Nightly News off WTHR on 10/23/1990

TAPE 26: Episodes of ST: TNG on 5/19, 6/2, 6/9, and 6/23/1990 off WXIN with commercials. I've already got the third of these off KXLY from those 2017 lots, but not the other three, including the third season finale

TAPE 27: ST: TNG from 10/3/1992 off WXIN, followed by Rush Limbaugh from 10/6/1992 off WTHR, followed by the two-hour premiere of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and the first ten minutes of the WXIN Night News from 1/4/1993

TAPE 28: Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan (1982), the ABC Sunday Night Movie off WRTV on 6/18/1989 with commercials, followed by about the last 50 minutes of Indiana Jones and the Temple Of Doom (1984) off WRTV/ABC on 10/1/1989 with some commercials (I've already farmed the commercials from this off WPLG already), followed by short clips from Hard Copy (about the Solid Gold nightclub in Fort Lauderdale), Arsenio Hall (featuring 2 Live Crew's performance of "Me So Horny"), and a couple of various Indy newscasts from the fall of 1989, followed by about the last 20 minutes of the WISH Noon News from 11/13/1989, followed by the end of Married... With Children and about half of Open House off WXIN/FOX on 10/15/1989 with commercials. LP mode for everything except for the WISH news segment, which was the only item I found recorded in SLP for this entire lot. It's also my earliest find of Hard Copy. The audio quality on the SLP item leaves a bit more to be desired, but then again, noon newscasts aren't an easy find

TAPE 29: A special three-hour edition of 48 Hours: Return To Crack Street off WISH/CBS on 9/14/1989 followed by the third season premiere of ST: TNG off WXIN on 9/30/1989

TAPE 30: Episodes of ST: TNG from 5/6, 5/13, 5/20, and 6/3/1989 off WXIN. I've already found "Pen Pals", the first episode on this tape, from the 2017 Spokane haul.

TAPE 31: Three more episodes of ST: TNG off WXIN, the first being a summer 1988 rerun of "Arsenal Of Freedom" and recorded in SP mode, with two more episodes, "Dauphin" and "Time Squared" coming from their original broadcasts from 2/18 and 4/1/1989 and recorded in LP mode like most stuff in this haul.

TAPE 32: Episodes of ST: TNG from 2/20 and 4/23/1988 off WXIN, with the former having about half of the commercials zapped out . SP mode, and the second episode, "Symbiosis", was another one of those Spokane lot finds.

TAPE 33: Episodes of ST: TNG from 12/5/1987 and 1/30/1988 off WXIN, the first having only a few commercials present, and the second having a little more than half of the ads intact. SP mode, and I've already got broadcast copies with commercials of "Haven", the first of the two episodes on this tape

TAPE 34: Star Trek III: The Search For Spock (1984), The ABC Monday Night Movie off WRTV from 9/28/1987, ending during the closing credits and missing the intro. This was part of a stretch of a few pre-emptions due to the NFL strike that year. SP mode
 


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