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NBC Talknet - Could it work today?

I seem to remember they gave out the phone number and since it was a "long distance" call back then, that cost the caller money, they said "we'll answer when it's your turn."

Did they just ask where they were calling from or did the producer prescreen the calls to make sure the caller would make sense?
The calls were screened by the producer. I don't recall if he asked anymore than where they were calling from. The idea behind not providing a toll-free number (aside from WW1's inherent cheapness) was the person calling had to want to call enough to pay for the call.

Once caller ID became available, there was a list of numbers (mainly from cranks or overly frequent callers) they would not take calls from.
 
So, that's it then. Radio is done for. Don't bother to try and come up with any new ideas. Just let it whither away. Move on to podcasts. It's dying and nothing can save it. All the posts I read now have nothing positive to say about radio anymore. RD is now 'death watch' coverage.

"death watch" - Basically, yes.

The BBC sees that streaming only for their content distribution will soon be the most cost effective method:


I'm watching a few TV shows on ABC/CBS/FOX/NBC now, they almost always promote that the TV show is (or soon will be - tomorrow, for example) on a streaming service too.


Kirk Bayne
 
Also, prior to the launch of Caller ID, and phones that could read a phone call's "header" info and display it on a telephone or computer console, all calls, local and toll, were anonymous. It was only on toll-free calls (which were, in effect, collect calls that the recipient was paying for) that the caller's phone number was displayable before the call was answered, using a technology called ANI (Automatic Number Identification). If Mutual or Westwood One (Larry King's distributors) didn't want to pay for In-WATS (toll-free), then they didn't have access to ANI, so every call was an anonymous call until after it was answered.
 
The BBC sees that streaming only for their content distribution will soon be the most cost effective method...
I know this is going to sound flaky, but I wonder whether eliminating all that RF energy from the environment might lead to a reduction in mental health issues. Whether it's possible that one causation of the big leap in schizophrenia, depression, other mental illnesses, Alzheimer's, brain tumors, etc. in the 20th and 21st centuries might be that huge soup of electromagnetic energy we all swim in every day.

(Before someone accuses me of being some uninformed conspiracy looney toon, let me tell you that my degree was in Electrical Engineering.)
 
The big problem we're seeing is....

This was a thoughtful, well-framed opinion. Nicely stated.

Newspapers, magazines. Newer technology like the internet and AI has made older technology more and more vulnerable.

Some do still exist and the New York Times in particular has found a business model that works in the current environment. But a lot of others have not, and the contraction of these industries is painful for those who work in them and for the remaining audience that has to endure watching them wither and die.

Then you have other entertainment platforms taking screen time away from Radio and TV. Internet gaming is a very big deal, especially to Zoomers and Millennials. Every hour they spend online gaming is an hour they're not using traditional media like Radio and TV.

It's a multifaceted problem but the main part of it is the platform is slowly fading.

One big issue in my view is that while advertising business at these traditional media companies continues to dramatically shrink, they are owned by giant corporations that require endless growth in order to satisfy both investors and the executives who lead them. Many of these companies are billions of dollars in debt that they will never be able to repay, especially as the advertising revenue becomes less and less. So they continue to slash and burn staff and reduce the product to a shell of its former self in an effort by the executives to extend their tenure and keep collecting those sweet multimillion dollar executive salaries. What we have is a field that is trending more and more toward a size more suitable for being run as a small business, but remains in the grip of big businessmen determine to ride their gravy trains to the end of the line and off the cliff.

Also, I don't think younger demos are as into talk shows -- any talk show -- as much as the Gen X'er and Boomers are. Their idea of mass communication is different.

Younger demos live in world where everything except live sports is expected to be had on demand. So they use streaming platforms for music and podcasts for talk. But you're right, not everyone is a fan of talk shows that do nothing but talk. And there's a piece missing -- because podcasts, absurdly, can't play music thanks to the music industry's licensing obstacles. In my opinion, if that barrier can finally be removed allowing for podcasts to present hosted music shows, that would be another game-changer that seriously impacts music radio stations.

I've listened to BIN, I don't hear pandering.

The entire presentation is something like this: "In our next story, Mister So-and-So, who is Black, did something and Mister Such-and-Such, who is White, responded." Nearly everyone who is brought up is prominently identified by what race they are. Call it serving their target audience if you want, but if that's not pandering I don't know what is. Try doing that on any other kind of media outlet and see if it doesn't generate massive criticism. A regular news station can hardly even bring themselves to tell you anyone's race as it justifiably opens them up to questions like, does it matter?

Also the production quality is quite poor with levels that vary so drastically that the AGC often can't even keep up. There is frequent distortion and digital clipping. The reporting sounds fragmented with stories voiced by different presenters, not well tied together by an anchor. In other words, it sounds like automation at its worst.
 
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Why have a studio and highly paid actors and extras, and fancy props, when an AI program on a good computer can do it all more cheaply?

That may be true from the company point of view. But the audience likely doesn't agree. As long as there's an audience for human programming, there will be some radio stations that will provide it. It's more a function of what the marketplace supports than what is cheaper. It's cheaper for Sirius to put all it's eggs on the app. It costs more to focus on satellite. Yet they've chosen to focus on satellite distribution. Because they believe that's where their audience is.
 
Also, prior to the launch of Caller ID, and phones that could read a phone call's "header" info and display it on a telephone or computer console, all calls, local and toll, were anonymous. It was only on toll-free calls (which were, in effect, collect calls that the recipient was paying for) that the caller's phone number was displayable before the call was answered, using a technology called ANI (Automatic Number Identification). If Mutual or Westwood One (Larry King's distributors) didn't want to pay for In-WATS (toll-free), then they didn't have access to ANI, so every call was an anonymous call until after it was answered.
Once they switched from a Centrex system to a Rolm CBX and telco moved us to a new CO (the same CO that served the Pentagon and DEA among other agencies) we had ANI. Before that, yes the calls were completely anonymous.
 
So, that's it then. Radio is done for. Don't bother to try and come up with any new ideas. Just let it whither away. Move on to podcasts. It's dying and nothing can save it. All the posts I read now have nothing positive to say about radio anymore. RD is now 'death watch' coverage.
Yes, just about.
 
The criticism is that there are no new ideas. But how about Black Information Network. There's an example of a linear 24/7 network, just like TalkNet, just like Sheriden and Mutual Black networks from the 80s. It's not political talk. It's not sports. They found sponsorship in a different way. Because it's iHeart, they found a way to get it on hundreds of AM stations around the country.
How To Listen To BIN | BIN: Black Information Network seems to suggest it's closer to a couple dozen.
The entire presentation is something like this: "In our next story, Mister So-and-So, who is Black, did something and Mister Such-and-Such, who is White, responded." Nearly everyone who is brought up is prominently identified by what race they are. Call it serving their target audience if you want, but if that's not pandering I don't know what is. Try doing that on any other kind of media outlet and see if it doesn't generate massive criticism. A regular news station can hardly even bring themselves to tell you anyone's race as it justifiably opens them up to questions like, does it matter?
Ever watched Fox News?
 
How To Listen To BIN | BIN: Black Information Network seems to suggest it's closer to a couple dozen.

Ever watched Fox News?
The difference is that BIN is delivering actual news, served through a sharp Black focus. Fox "News" is sometimes news, but more often it's "news". A crumb of truth here, a morsel there, woven into a story that's largely fiction, created to superserve their audience's prejudices and keep their eyeballs captive. They both pander, but the M.O.'s are quite different.
 
My position was supervisory for all the WW1 feeds that originated from Arlington so I didn't usually have direct knowledge. However, more than a few times the producer would mention crank callers. I remember the Howard Stern callers (Ba Ba Booie) and the Neil Rogers callers. But not many others specifically.
We have the receipts.

 
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