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EMF - Why Didn't Other Groups Pay Attention?

Inspired by recent discussions on EMF, who shrewdly used the NCE rules to their advantage to become a powerful operator. Smart on their part.

Why do you think that secular organizations didn't use this strategy? Why didn't you see deep classic rock, jazz, Americana or Triple A pubcasters pursue this model?

Sure, there's some regional service. The Current in Minnesota, XPN in parts of PA and with XPonential Music for HD channels. But the only example of a contemporary music pubcaster that's aggressively entertained expansion outside of their home market (and aggressive is an overstatement, compared to EMF) is KEXP. They tried a simulcast in Tacoma, a programming services agreement with WNYE in New York City, and now, successful expansion to the Bay Area.

My thinking is that a great deal of public radio culture values the idea of localism or regionalism, and a lot of these non-classical, rock and pop services lean into support of a local music scene. Nashville, Austin, Seattle. Some KEXP donors were nervous about losing the Seattle roots of the station with the KEXC project. But there's also an argument to be made that a curated service, in this case with live DJs, is equally valuable as a national or even global brand. The culture of the station has less to do on a day to day basis with being in Seattle and more the global community they've built. They send DJs to live broadcasts, as far as Iceland, even. There's so much potential there for community building.

So, is it just the "provincial" nature of the public radio world, or is there some other reason? (Money, now, would be an obvious one but I'm going further back, to when EMF started their growth.) What stood in the way of public media non profits doing the same thing EMF did and scaling their operation? KCRW's "Eclectic 24" sounds great. There's no reason a hosted version couldn't be a radio network. It's already on FM full time in San Luis Obispo. I'd like to see some pubcasters find some inspiration in EMF's model.
 
The EMF model is a good one but what impresses me more in programming is Way FM. Unlike EMF, Way FM has underwriters in addition to listener support. They run local events and run PSAs. I think they still do weathercasts. And they have great jingles and a playlist so tight it squeaks like a top 40. Their morning guy was a shock jock morning guy before going to Way FM. Way FM is like a baby EMF.

There's no reason 'formats' can't nationalize with jocks. While each market is a bit different, I think that might be less of an issue now than in prior decades as our society has become more mobile.

Public radio has already found success utilizing a few formats through entities like Minnesota Public Radio. They have close to 50 stations around the state that operate. They do quite well
 
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My thinking is that a great deal of public radio culture values the idea of localism or regionalism, and a lot of these non-classical, rock and pop services lean into support of a local music scene. Nashville, Austin, Seattle.
Colorado (two stations, one each for Colorado Public Radio and KUNC in Greeley).

I need to research this a bit more, since I'm still learning about the market, but apparently at one time there were some bad feelings between Colorado Public Radio and KUNC after CPR tried to take over the Greeley operation. They remain separate and there's been some warmer relations recently.

On-air, CPR is very careful to credit KRCC, the Colorado College station it's currently operating in Colorado Springs. Colorado College still owns the station.

Never underestimate the power of turf.

So, is it just the "provincial" nature of the public radio world, or is there some other reason? (Money, now, would be an obvious one but I'm going further back, to when EMF started their growth.)
Money. Turf. Community pride.

Iowa Public Radio runs their music (classical and AAA) and news feeds on different stations throughout the state.
On FM, though, IPR covers just 2/3 of the state. Omaha and Sioux City have their own outlets. I think it took financial exigencies for the three universities to realize that they needed to join forces. That was a little more than 20 years ago, but it was only within the last couple of years that actual station ownership passed to IPR. And the studios are still at the universities. One interesting thing I've found out in research is that the Ottumwa stations came about after intense lobbying by the Wapello County Board of Supervisors - they wanted public radio in their community and got it.

The University of Missouri has stations on each of its four campuses, but they operate independently. Elmer Ellis' vision of a unified system of a top-tier university with multiple campuses and second-tier regional universities (similar to the California system) seems to have eroded over time. In any event, the stations at the four campuses haven't historically had much to do with each other. For years, KWMU in St. Louis was notorious for being under the direct control of a chancellor who loved classical music and kept most NPR programming off the station. That has changed, of course. The only current example of cooperation in the system is between the Columbia campus and Truman State in Kirksville, whose KKTR rebroadcasts KBIA. KBIA also ended up with a class A repeater in Mexico (Audrain County) which puzzles me to this day.
 
Why do you think that secular organizations didn't use this strategy?

The answer is you have to WANT to do this. You have to WANT to use donated money to buy radio stations. That's a specific act. And other secular organizations use their donated money for other things. I'm a member of several secular music organizations. We vote how our money is spent. I have never heard the members of these organizations vote for buying radio stations. It's just not something people do. Even secular RADIO organizations, like the NAB have chosen NOT to buy radio stations. There are lots of other religious organizations that didn't pursue this strategy. Why? They didn't see owning radio stations as being core to their mission. This group did, and they're very successful at it.
 
68% fo the US identifies as being part of a Christian religion. CCM is far from a niche market. The other formats the OP borught up truly ARE niche. And the answer may be as simple as that- I am not sure.
There's a broad spectrum of theology represented in that 68%, though, and some sects don't recognize other sects as being truly Christian.
 
There's a broad spectrum of theology represented in that 68%, though, and some sects don't recognize other sects as being truly Christian.
Oh I get that for sure. Just saying that it is a much bigger pool to draw from. Even here in the heathen Seattle market the local CCM has gotten repsectable ratings for decades now. Even though K-Love and others have entered the market in more recent years, it still does fine.
 
The other thing about K-Love is it's non-denominational, as far as I can tell. It's not Catholic, Protestant, or any other sub-sect. Which is smart.
Reminds me of the slogan for a WNVM in Puerto Rico (and I believe WGNK in Miami as well): "la estación para evangélicos, católicos y gente que no asiste a ninguna iglesia".

Granted, CCM does not have the lame and insular reputation in Spanish-speaking countries that exists in English-speaking ones. There was no King of the Hill episode making fun of Christian rock. Jaci Velázquez and Tercer Cielo can have crossover hits and Juan Luis Guerra can release a Christian album. Meanwhile this is what killed the Fish 106.7 in Chicago, because most Chicago Christians are Catholic and the Salem station didn't have the infrastructure behind that K-Love has.
 
Granted, CCM does not have the lame and insular reputation in Spanish-speaking countries that exists in English-speaking ones. There was no King of the Hill episode making fun of Christian rock.
South Park went over the top when they did it, with additional, and well-deserved, swipes at the music industry generally.

 
Why do you think that secular organizations didn't use this strategy? Why didn't you see deep classic rock, jazz, Americana or Triple A pubcasters pursue this model?

The short answer is money. You have to have it to snap up stations left and right and build up the infrastructure that K-Love has. K-Love has been around, in one form or another, for about 40 years. It has had 40 years to build up its war chest and acquire stations. The formats you mention don't have enough fans in most markets to warrant a single station. You either need a lot of supporters or a few rich ones. Secular organizations likely can't compete against free, and not enough rich people are likely to donate to a cause like a AAA network.
 
Secular organizations likely can't compete against free, and not enough rich people are likely to donate to a cause like a AAA network.

Not exactly true. The Recording Academy has a huge budget. Same with the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. Both of them can afford huge museums to show their stuff. But a radio license is a very different thing. There are a lot of aspects in running a radio station that have nothing to do with the core missions of those two places. The other thing is that any musical genre has a wider geographic appeal than a single radio station. So the investment in a thousand radio stations isn't a very efficient use of an organization's money. The only reason K-Love did it was because their founders WANTED to carry out their mission in this way. It was a good idea 40 years ago. There are cheaper & more efficient ways to do the same thing now.
 
I had a conversation with a radio guy about Contemporary Christian formats. He thinks there is only a certain percentage that will listen and we have already or are about to reach the point of 'too much' programming on radio devoted to Contemporary Christian. My thinking is quite a few of the little guys in the format will be forced out by lack of revenue.

By the way, does anyone know the 'percentage' of the radio audience listens to Contemporary Christian. I have been told about 8% but I have never seen a figure. We have those pie charts that AC hits X percent; CHR X% and so forth but CCM is not in any I've seen..
 
By the way, does anyone know the 'percentage' of the radio audience listens to Contemporary Christian. I have been told about 8% but I have never seen a figure. We have those pie charts that AC hits X percent; CHR X% and so forth but CCM is not in any I've seen..

Part of the problem is most of the research is for commercial formats, and a big chunk of CCM is non-commercial. Here's what the Gospel Music Association says:

 
My thinking is quite a few of the little guys in the format will be forced out by lack of revenue.

It would seem they already are. At least on the commercial side, the number of them would seem to be going down, and many are selling to K-Love. It's not just the little guys either. Salem sold its CCM stations, and it's not exactly a small company. I'll grant you most of those stations were making money, and there was more at play there, but K-Love isn’t just getting bigger off of secular stations.
 
What I don't get is why secular stations don't consolidate like K-Love did. Instead of Z-100 or KIIS FM, just have one Top 40 station called iHeartHits with one nationwide schedule.

It works with television. NBC manages to have affiliates in every American city playing the same programming. And this is also how other countries in the world do radio.
 
What I don't get is why secular stations don't consolidate like K-Love did. Instead of Z-100 or KIIS FM, just have one Top 40 station called iHeartHits with one nationwide schedule.

Local sales. They need some local presence to get local sales and do local sales promotions. K-Love doesn't have sales. Also many big markets have union rules about local talent. TV stations do local news, and that's how they handle local sales. There are also chart rules that require a certain amount of localization to qualify as a chart reporter. That only applies to top-rated stations in currents-based formats.

iHeart has satellite music services available for markets that can't support local talent. So does Cumulus.
 
What I don't get is why secular stations don't consolidate like K-Love did. Instead of Z-100 or KIIS FM, just have one Top 40 station called iHeartHits with one nationwide schedule.

They already are to some degree. I've mentioned it before, but some of the iHeart stations I can get at my mother's house are nothing but servers at the transmitter sites. That's not the only iHeart market like that, or so I've been told.

As The Big A mentions, those stations have also been dropped from reporting panels.

Don't forget also that only a handful of companies have the scale to pull off a fully national station. Early ownership rules prevented one company from owning too many stations nationwide, and buying hundreds of properties isn’t cheap, even at current multiples.
 
Why do you think that secular organizations didn't use this strategy? Why didn't you see deep classic rock, jazz, Americana or Triple A pubcasters pursue this model?

Speaking mostly about jazz: A lot, probably over 90% of jazz outlets were owned by universities or public school systems.

Boise State University ran a jazz format on KBSU until the late 2000s. They were one of the original partners of the JazzWorks network, which provided a syndicated, hosted 24/7 jazz service. JazzWorks had a lot of affiliates at one time

Boise State had no mandate to start buying radio stations in Peoria or Seattle, and probably would have gotten flak for it from by Idaho officials if they had. KBSU is one of many jazz stations that now switched to run the NPR talk lineup. Others got sold.

There's still a little jazz radio left, but not a lot. Most of what is still out there is on HD2, or specialty shows at night or on weekends.
 
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