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Kansas Keitzman back on KCHZ & KCMO

He’s going to do a one hour late morning show:
Anyone here going to listen? I won’t, I think he’s a huge jerk.
 
If you've heard the podcast, you probably don't need to listen to the radio version. Between KK, Bongino and Levin, that's a lot of anger-tainment throughout the day.
 
The station is accurately described by Radio Insight:
Cumulus Media Conservative Talk 710 KCMO
The station is a far cry from its "legacy" status when it wasn't ONLY politics ALL THE TIME.
I recall great local hosts like Mike Murphy and Dr. Marshal Saper (who committed suicide, and was a big market story on TV news).

KCMO's story in some ways is similar to KLIF Dallas, when it was a leading news-talk. Now, it's almost nothing.
 
I recall great local hosts like Mike Murphy and Dr. Marshal Saper (who committed suicide, and was a big market story on TV news).
Mike Murphy subbed for Art Bell often. He was that great of a host. He's now deceased.

Am sure he discussed politics on occasion, particularly local and state politics of the 2 state listening area (KS, MO), but politics wasn't the focus and I cannot remember him expressing political opinions.

I don't think it would be a stretch to call Mike the greatest, consistent, all-round radio host KC ever produced.

I know there was another fella who worked in KC radio, but it wasn't considered successful and he had to go to another market before he made it big.

Personally, I don't think that other host, who bragged constantly about how good he was and how "better" his excrement was compared to others, could even discuss anything but politics (maybe sports).

El Rushbo's constant bluffs and talking up himself were as annoying as Les Nessman's warrantless bragging about his "Silver Sow awards."

I can't tell you how much I regret following him for years.

Mike Murphy wasn't in any kind of way as divisive and egotistical as the other deceased host who enjoyed hurling insults at people and even denigrating their appearances and backgrounds.
 
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Mike Murphy subbed for Art Bell often. He was that great of a host. He's now deceased.

Am sure he discussed politics on occasion, particularly local and state politics of the 2 state listening area (KS, MO), but politics wasn't the focus and I cannot remember him expressing political opinions.

I don't think it would be a stretch to call Mike the greatest, consistent, all-round radio host KC ever produced.

I know there was another fella who worked in KC radio, but it wasn't considered successful and he had to go to another market before he made it big.

Personally, I don't think that other host, who bragged constantly about how good he was and how "better" his excrement was compared to others, could even discuss anything but politics (maybe sports).

El Rushbo's constant bluffs and talking up himself were as annoying as Les Nessman's warrantless bragging about his "Silver Sow awards."

I can't tell you how much I regret following him for years.

Mike Murphy wasn't in any kind of way as divisive and egotistical as the other deceased host who enjoyed hurling insults at people and even denigrating their appearances and backgrounds.
I had no idea Mike Murphy subbed for Art Bell. Did you ever go to the parade Mike used to be a part of? I think it was the St. Patrick’s Day parade.
 
The station is a far cry from its "legacy" status when it wasn't ONLY politics ALL THE TIME.
I recall great local hosts like Mike Murphy and Dr. Marshal Saper (who committed suicide, and was a big market story on TV news).

KCMO's story in some ways is similar to KLIF Dallas, when it was a leading news-talk. Now, it's almost nothing.
KCMO had been an inconsistent performer for decades. One year it would find the winning formula and the next year things would come crashing down to earth, though perhaps not as forcefully as the rotating cast of formats on 106.5 in the 80s and 90s. I always felt KCMO radio was the stepchild in the Meredith combo, once the FM finally was fixed, before Meredith sold it. It probably did best at talk, but KMBZ was always a stronger performer and WDAF owned the market's perception as the place to tune for radio news. When Bonneville owned it, it was treated as a secondary flanker to KMBZ. That's not even mentioning the frequency swap in 1997 which, ultimately, I don't think helped matters.
 
I had no idea Mike Murphy subbed for Art Bell. Did you ever go to the parade Mike used to be a part of? I think it was the St. Patrick’s Day parade.
I recall the parade, but wasn't living in KC, I heard the station in the area (Topeka, Manhattan, etc.).

Here's a listing of Art Bell shows and the shows' hosts and guests.
Mike Murphy is mentioned.

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I cannot find audio of any shows he subbed. But I see him listed there along with Hilly Rose, another guest host.
 
Anyone here going to listen? I won’t, I think he’s a huge jerk.
No, to the station.
Am not in the market, but use to live there for years.
When I've tuned in during my visits, it's wall-to-wall red state red meat, with the morning host so bitter and angry with non-Repubs.
 
As I never really listened to sports talk, I don't have any opinion of K Keitzman, other than what a Google search reveals.
 
Alan Furst should be consulting other talk outlets. KMBZ (FM) is a stellar radio station.
Oh, yes, he's very good.

From that Kansas City Star radio-TV critic blogger, he explained how 98.1 KMBZ started.
Audacy thought they could make loads of $$$ simply moving their right-wing hosts like Rush and Sean to the FM.
Instead, ratings tanked.

A new p.d. brought some fresh, out of the box thinking and designed a local-focused talk station from 5 a.m. to 6 p.m., IIRC.

Am not in the market now, but when I am, enjoy listening to the station as the shows aren't political. I don't recall any of the hosts getting political.

It's a breath of fresh air and a format that should be replicated elsewhere, instead of wasting city-grade signals with boring, predictable run-of-the-mill syndicated talk.
 
The station is a far cry from its "legacy" status when it wasn't ONLY politics ALL THE TIME.
KCMO's story in some ways is similar to KLIF Dallas, when it was a leading news-talk. Now, it's almost nothing.

This is pretty typical of talk radio today. It used to be a place where you could get a little bit of everything, politics included. Now, almost every talk station is all politics all-the-time. I guess angertainment sells, but I don't get it, and it certainly doesn't seem to get a huge audience.

I had no idea Mike Murphy subbed for Art Bell. Did you ever go to the parade Mike used to be a part of? I think it was the St. Patrick’s Day parade.

I believe that was the one. I remember being surprised at how big St. Patrick's Day was in Kansas City my first St. Patrick's Day there. It's pretty big all over the state. Missouri has either the second or third most St. Patrick's Day parades in the nation. It's a big deal all over the state. St. Louis has a big one in Dogtown, too. A friend of mine used to always say I reminded him of Mike Murphy, especially after he found out about my radio background. I wish I had a career in the business that was as successful as Mike's was!

That's not even mentioning the frequency swap in 1997 which, ultimately, I don't think helped matters.

It didn't. The thinking was that 710 had a better signal in JoCo at night. It's only marginally better. Plus, 710's signal has a nighttime null right over the Legends and Bonner Springs areas, and both 710 and 810 have nighttime patterns that exclude the far eastern suburbs in the metro that have seen large growth since the swap. I believe 710's nighttime signal to the east is worse. I also never could figure out why Entercom wanted to go through all that trouble just to increase the nighttime signal of a station that didn't have much of a nighttime audience. Talk radio has never had much of audience after dark, and that wasn't likely to change with what KCMO was airing.

I could never stand to listen to his show on 810, but I think he only talked sports and was a huge K-State homer.

He's a love him or hate him type of person. You don't find much middle ground or indifference when it comes to him. The PD at one of the college stations where I worked took a job with Union Broadcasting out of college and thinks highly of everybody who owned the company when he worked there, including KK. I believe he's a K-State grad and was previously a sports anchor. He really took off doing sports talk for KCTE 1510. I seem to remember it started as a fill-in gig after the regular host either went on vacation or took leave due to illness, and his star soared. He was so popular the regular host wasn't around very long afterward.

A new p.d. brought some fresh, out of the box thinking and designed a local-focused talk station from 5 a.m. to 6 p.m., IIRC.

I believe KMBZ-FM was locally focused until either 9:00 or 10:00 PM originally. As you mention, it also generally avoids national politics, though it does talk local politics when those issues are in the news. A friend and former co-worker of mine works there and says it's the way talk radio needs to be if it's going to be successful in the future. Problem is you're not going to be able to succeed with that kind of programming on your typical AM signal. It's expensive to run, and you need an audience both large enough and young enough to sell, or it'll eat your lunch quickly. AM doesn't have enough good signals and doesn't reach enough of the money demos. Even KMBZ-FM found selling a good local show after dinnertime wasn't sustainable, which is ultimately why it cut the evening show.
 
This is pretty typical of talk radio today. It used to be a place where you could get a little bit of everything, politics included. Now, almost every talk station is all politics all-the-time. I guess angertainment sells, but I don't get it, and it certainly doesn't seem to get a huge audience.



I believe that was the one. I remember being surprised at how big St. Patrick's Day was in Kansas City my first St. Patrick's Day there. It's pretty big all over the state. Missouri has either the second or third most St. Patrick's Day parades in the nation. It's a big deal all over the state. St. Louis has a big one in Dogtown, too. A friend of mine used to always say I reminded him of Mike Murphy, especially after he found out about my radio background. I wish I had a career in the business that was as successful as Mike's was!



It didn't. The thinking was that 710 had a better signal in JoCo at night. It's only marginally better. Plus, 710's signal has a nighttime null right over the Legends and Bonner Springs areas, and both 710 and 810 have nighttime patterns that exclude the far eastern suburbs in the metro that have seen large growth since the swap. I believe 710's nighttime signal to the east is worse. I also never could figure out why Entercom wanted to go through all that trouble just to increase the nighttime signal of a station that didn't have much of a nighttime audience. Talk radio has never had much of audience after dark, and that wasn't likely to change with what KCMO was airing.



He's a love him or hate him type of person. You don't find much middle ground or indifference when it comes to him. The PD at one of the college stations where I worked took a job with Union Broadcasting out of college and thinks highly of everybody who owned the company when he worked there, including KK. I believe he's a K-State grad and was previously a sports anchor. He really took off doing sports talk for KCTE 1510. I seem to remember it started as a fill-in gig after the regular host either went on vacation or took leave due to illness, and his star soared. He was so popular the regular host wasn't around very long afterward.



I believe KMBZ-FM was locally focused until either 9:00 or 10:00 PM originally. As you mention, it also generally avoids national politics, though it does talk local politics when those issues are in the news. A friend and former co-worker of mine works there and says it's the way talk radio needs to be if it's going to be successful in the future. Problem is you're not going to be able to succeed with that kind of programming on your typical AM signal. It's expensive to run, and you need an audience both large enough and young enough to sell, or it'll eat your lunch quickly. AM doesn't have enough good signals and doesn't reach enough of the money demos. Even KMBZ-FM found selling a good local show after dinnertime wasn't sustainable, which is ultimately why it cut the evening show.
I stopped listening to KCMO when they stopped running Hendrie at night. In the past KMBZ has had great storm coverage, but that was the only time I listened to them at night. I don't remember Keitzman being on KCTE. Was he there before he went to WHB or was he on both stations?
 
I don't remember Keitzman being on KCTE. Was he there before he went to WHB or was he on both stations?

KCTE 1510 was where the sports programming that's currently on WHB began. KCTE started out as a satellite sports station airing "The Team" sports network and added a local afternoon show. Kietzman filled in on the afternoon show when he was weekend sports anchor on WDAF-TV, and his star took off. I can't remember if Boeger and Leabo were there before Kietzman arrived or if they were added shortly afterward, but they ended up buying the station from Gary Acker and bought WHB from Mike & Miles Carter a year or two later.
 
KCTE 1510 was where the sports programming that's currently on WHB began. KCTE started out as a satellite sports station airing "The Team" sports network and added a local afternoon show. Kietzman filled in on the afternoon show when he was weekend sports anchor on WDAF-TV, and his star took off. I can't remember if Boeger and Leabo were there before Kietzman arrived or if they were added shortly afterward, but they ended up buying the station from Gary Acker and bought WHB from Mike & Miles Carter a year or two later.
Oh ok. I only started listening to KCTE when it was Hot Talk and ran Loveline in the mornings (probably one of the only stations to ever do that!)
 
As mentioned, KMBZ (FM) had a great night show hosted by Jonathan Wier. The ratings were solid, too. It was non-political, humorous and had a good following, even the younger tech-savvy Reddit community loved it. But economics led to it being cut, same with KIRO (FM) in Seattle last year. Ironically, Wier also hosted there for an interim period but didn't get hired, which I felt was a major misfire on the part of Bonneville. Though given what happened after, probably just as well for him!

Even when KMBZ hosts talked national politics, which they did a few years ago on the daytime shows, it was lively and varied, and they still took calls. I think the hosts naturally saw that they could do just as well with local and burnt out on the national stuff. Completely understandable.

I'd often hoped Audacy would put Furst in charge of KFTK in St. Louis and make it the sibling to KMBZ in terms of approach, but they seem to be carrying on with the mostly right-wing bent that's over served in the market. For all the criticism Field got, he did seem committed to letting local talent develop and do. their thing in the talk format. I also enjoy Audacy's WWL New Orleans, which has a uniquely regional flavor and doesn't go all in on MAGA talk.

It's ironic to me that when Audacy tried to regionalize everything, they didn't make Furst a talk format captain despite his success and went with the generic "Alt" branding instead of looking at what had worked for KRBZ in KC. At one point that cluster was doing everything right, but for some reason they didn't try to make the more inspired ideas national or regional ideas, apart from the syndication effort for Lazlo, which I can appreciate in theory, but when it came to the music, they didn't learn from what Lazlo himself had done with the Buzz.

I wish KMBZ (FM) and WWL were the "norm" for major market talk outlets, I would say they're better stations than what you get in places like Chicago or New York for talk, but they have heritage and made the move to FM at the right time and stayed the course with local. Doing that from scratch today would require me winning the lottery, because it certainly isn't in the budget for any of these companies in 2025. Or at least, not as they view it.
 
As mentioned, KMBZ (FM) had a great night show hosted by Jonathan Wier. The ratings were solid, too. It was non-political, humorous and had a good following, even the younger tech-savvy Reddit community loved it. But economics led to it being cut, same with KIRO (FM) in Seattle last year. Ironically, Wier also hosted there for an interim period but didn't get hired, which I felt was a major misfire on the part of Bonneville. Though given what happened after, probably just as well for him!

He ended up going to WKLB in Boston but got buzzsawed there in budget cuts. He apparently does his own podcast now. I hope he's successful with it. Everybody tells me Jonathan's a good guy.

Even when KMBZ hosts talked national politics, which they did a few years ago on the daytime shows, it was lively and varied, and they still took calls. I think the hosts naturally saw that they could do just as well with local and burnt out on the national stuff. Completely understandable.

From what I've been told, some of the motivation was a differentiation strategy, but local politics and issues also tend to be less divisive along party lines than national politics. So, even if some local issues have passionate divisions among the audience, they aren't nearly as polarizing and doesn't give the impression that the station always favors one side over the other. It also has an audience that's divided between two states and multiple cities, which means fewer issues affect or are other noticeable to the entire audience.

I'd often hoped Audacy would put Furst in charge of KFTK in St. Louis and make it the sibling to KMBZ in terms of approach, but they seem to be carrying on with the mostly right-wing bent that's over served in the market.

I don't think Furst is in charge, but Audacy did the reverse in St. Louis with KMOX getting most of the non-political and locally focused talk while KFTK got the conservative talk. Outside of baseball season, KMOX is at the lowest it's been in decades, possibly ever. KFTK is at about half KMOX's numbers, though I've been told it does quite-a-bit better in the sales demos. I'd have to think some changes will be due for both at some point.

It's ironic to me that when Audacy tried to regionalize everything, they didn't make Furst a talk format captain despite his success and went with the generic "Alt" branding instead of looking at what had worked for KRBZ in KC. At one point that cluster was doing everything right, but for some reason they didn't try to make the more inspired ideas national or regional ideas, apart from the syndication effort for Lazlo, which I can appreciate in theory, but when it came to the music, they didn't learn from what Lazlo himself had done with the Buzz.

I've mentioned it before, but I've always thought Audacy got those efforts backward. I know he has his fans, but I've always thought Lazlo is, by far, one of the worst on-air talents that I've ever heard. He's completely unlistenable to me. I'd rather listen to nails scraping on a blackboard than Lazlo's show. On the other hand, he's one of the best managers I've ever encountered. He really built up the Buzz and its live events. The artists loved him. The sponsors loved him. He was also electric on the stage during live performances. He would've been perfect to head up the programming side of the Audacy alternative stations. Instead, Audacy took away his management functions and nationalized his show. No surprise it failed.
 
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