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Waterloo Changes in Austin

The hybrid English AC/Spanish presentation on Latino 97.1 has ended.

Back to playing Spanish AC/CHR with a lot of reggaeton during my listen. Latino brand remains in place.
 
I suspect it's only a matter of time until 93.3 flips again.

Perhaps they should've never tossed Lucy to the curb.
 
Wonder how KLBJ would do on 93.3 FM and 590 am?
 
Would be rather peculiar to have both KLBJs side-by-side on the FM dial.

I guess 93.3 is closer to to 93.7.... but there area already two KLBJs on FM and it seems to be working out okay. Might be overthinking it.

As long as 590 is also KLBJ, it doesn't matter. If 590 were to go away or change to something else then there would likely be some confusion and a hard decision to make.

"KLBJ" for a rock station doesn't really make any intrinsic sense. It's just there for historic reasons.

"KLBJ" for a mostly conservative talk station arguably makes even less sense considering Mr. Johnson's politics.

My guess though is if either ever get rebranded, it will be 93.7, and it would be relatively subtle tweak like "Rock 93.7".

The News/Talk has equity in the calls as a brand even if it is somewhat incongruent.
 
I'm a bit surprised the Spanish language CHR Latino format didn't catch on when it was on KGSR. KLOL here in Houston does well in the sales demos with a similar format, and I'd think Austin has the demographics to support a station like that.
 
I'm a bit surprised the Spanish language CHR Latino format didn't catch on when it was on KGSR.
How could it? Barely made the one year anniversary on 93.3.
KLOL here in Houston does well in the sales demos with a similar format, and I'd think Austin has the demographics to support a station like that.
KLOL ain't all that, but yeah. I'd agree that Austin should be capable of supporting the format, given it was programmed by the right people, and that sure ain't the folks at Sinclair.
 
KLOL ain't all that, but yeah. I'd agree that Austin should be capable of supporting the format, given it was programmed by the right people, and that sure ain't the folks at Sinclair.

I think your initial point about not providing adequate time to succeed is good and true. I'd push back on this part though.

Waterloo has a lot talent and on the whole, they are a very good operator.

Look at La Z, which has led spanish-language stations since basically its creation even though they have competed with hispanic-specialist Univision and many others signals of varying quality

Bob FM is very very well done and the ratings reflect that.

590 makes tons of money and has been the dominant non-public talker forever, despite a relatively poor night signal and only having a translator on FM.

93.7 is strong and does well in its demo.

101X is pretty solid too, especially for an alternative outlet in this decade.

Translator 102.7 has had a lot of flips, but does seem more stable now with sports.

What we do have though is a lot of shifting ground over the years on 93.3 and this goes back before Waterloo even before Emmis entered the market. It's the closest thing to "cursed frequency" in Austin. It just can't seem to get enough traction or hold a market position for very long. Whether that was country, CHR, hip-hop, dance, or the more recent iterations of AAA, Spanish CHR, or now classic hip-hop.

I think this is a pretty good case for taking a solid news/talk operation (590) that is likely missing some audience on AM and a translator and giving it a full-market FM signal that has had a lot of struggles over the years to say the least.

If Vibe is doing adequately well, maybe you eventually put that on 99.7.

Maybe we should page @Huff for the all time highest share for 93.3.
 
I think this is a pretty good case for taking a solid news/talk operation (590) that is likely missing some audience on AM and a translator and giving it a full-market FM signal that has had a lot of struggles over the years to say the least.
Moving the KLBJ simulcast to 93.3 is probably the best solution for the frequency. Plenty of other things Waterloo could do with 99.7.

Whatever happened to the plans for 590 to move to a new tower at the KVET 1300 site? No sign of any construction when I last drove by a few weeks ago. CP expires in nine months.
Maybe we should page @Huff for the all time highest share for 93.3.
Perhaps during the KBTS “B-93” days 35+ years ago?
 
What we do have though is a lot of shifting ground over the years on 93.3 and this goes back before Waterloo even before Emmis entered the market. It's the closest thing to "cursed frequency" in Austin. It just can't seem to get enough traction or hold a market position for very long. Whether that was country, CHR, hip-hop, dance, or the more recent iterations of AAA, Spanish CHR, or now classic hip-hop.

Ironically, B-93.3 was quite successful in the late 80's/early 90's and usually mopped the floor with KHFI. It was after what became Secret Communications decided to get out of Texas that it went down the drain. (Secret, somewhat ironically, returned to Texas a few years later when it acquired 107.5 in Houston, though it quickly swapped it for a couple stations in Pittsburgh.) I know that was a tough time for CHR in general, but B-93.3 really looked like it had KHFI on the ropes when it got LMA'ed to KHFI, which took it Hot AC to get it out of direct competition. That went over poorly, and nothing since has performed well for long on that signal.

I also know KHFI was a 1,300 watt station that hadn't kept up with the area's growth when B-93.3 was most successful against it. Having said that, after it moved to 98.1, Encore sold it, and the new owner didn't even consider keeping the format. If KQFX hadn't rescued it, 93.3 would likely still be Austin's CHR today.
 
Ironically, B-93.3 was quite successful in the late 80's/early 90's and usually mopped the floor with KHFI.
When the new KBTS 93.3 went in the air from the then new Bertram tower ~1987, I remember being amazed at its coverage area. I first came across it driving from Houston to Austin, and the signal was a blowtorch, and the CHR format sounded great, much better than “K-98”.
I also know KHFI was a 1,300 watt station that hadn't kept up with the area's growth when B-93.3 was most successful against it. Having said that, after it moved to 98.1, Encore sold it, and the new owner didn't even consider keeping the format. If KQFX hadn't rescued it, 93.3 would likely still be Austin's CHR today.
The LMA of the original KHFI to KVET shortly after the huge signal upgrade from 98.3 to 98.1 was a major earthquake in Austin radio. However it worked out in the long run; the long successful KVET-FM/KASE Country duopoly was established, and the KHFI CHR format was picked up by Class C1 96.7 where it remains to this day.

Note that the KHFI call has now been on 96.7 longer than its original incarnation on 98.3/98.1.
 
Look at La Z, which has led spanish-language stations since basically its creation even though they have competed with hispanic-specialist Univision and many others signals of varying quality
The Univision signals are "bad" and "worse" and have always had a hard time competing.
 
When the new KBTS 93.3 went in the air from the then new Bertram tower ~1987, I remember being amazed at its coverage area. I first came across it driving from Houston to Austin, and the signal was a blowtorch, and the CHR format sounded great, much better than “K-98”.

I remember listening to it on trips back to San Antonio when I was a teenager. On a good car radio, you could get it once the San Antonio Top-40 started to fade almost to Waco. It was a Killeen licensed station at the time, and I rarely had any desire to sample KIXS 105.5 (which tried to replace the old KIXS 93.3) or KTQN/KYZZ 106.3 during the drive. I agree it really did sound good. I always liked K98, too, but B-93.3 definitely broke the new music first and was more adventurous. I seem to remember K98 being more dependent on gold and heavier on the rock. Not being very into rap music, K98 tended to be my preference once Top-40/CHR became more rhythmic, but B-93.3 was still a good choice and easily covered 100 miles of the drive between San Antonio and Ft. Worth. I didn't always have to worry about whether I would need KWTX-FM on the trip. It was often available until KEGL and Y95 were options.

The LMA of the original KHFI to KVET shortly after the huge signal upgrade from 98.3 to 98.1 was a major earthquake in Austin radio. However it worked out in the long run; the long successful KVET-FM/KASE Country duopoly was established, and the KHFI CHR format was picked up by Class C1 96.7 where it remains to this day.

If I remember correctly, the LMA of 98.1 to KASE/KVET was done because they had just gotten the rights to UT football and basketball from KLBJ, and the agreement required the games to be on AM and FM. Rogers and friends didn't want to interrupt KASE's programming to air the games.

Note that the KHFI call has now been on 96.7 longer than its original incarnation on 98.3/98.1.

I can't remember when the calls arrived on 98.3, but I believe they were there before I was born. Having said that, I would guess you're right because they will have been on 96.7 for 35 years in a few months, and I can't imagine they would've been on 98.3 since the 1950's. I don't think that station signed on until the mid-to-late 60's. I seem to remember someone telling me it was a classical format before it became a Top-40/CHR.

IIRC around 20 years ago one of the Univision “predecessor” companies was working on a deal to purchase KBPA and flip it to Regional Mexican. Never happened, I wonder why?

That was Hispanic Broadcasting Corporation (HBC). HBC was part-owned by Clear Channel, and the DOJ said Clear Channel couldn't divest any of its own stations to an affiliated company. The old KEYI 103.5 was owned by Clear Channel, and it had to divest a few stations to squeeze in KASE and KVET, which it was getting as part of the AMFM merger.
 
The Univision signals are "bad" and "worse" and have always had a hard time competing.

107.7 is a bad rimshot for sure and the current format is not ideal for the Williamson County population it reaches best, but 104.3 isn't too bad.

It's roughly equivalent to La Z's 107.1. 107.1 is a little better overall, but they are both C2 eastern rimshots from outside Travis County that have some deficiencies. 104.3 has some issues in western Travis and Hays and 107.1 has some problems in Williamson.

They both are more than decent in the heavily-hispanic areas east of I-35 though. I think La Z has "won" mostly because of the superior programming and better community involvement/engagement.klqb-klzt.jpg
 
IIRC around 20 years ago one of the Univision “predecessor” companies was working on a deal to purchase KBPA and flip it to Regional Mexican. Never happened, I wonder why?
That was HBC, which merged with Univision. The deal was never completed, and I recall it was due to the difference in price and offer.
 
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