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Kari Lake previews her plans for Voice of America in the next Administration.

The president didn't pick Kari Lake or Brent Bozell to shut something down.
But they can change the platform emphasis. As previously mentioned, whatever you think of the current right wing MAGA movement you have to agree they are very savvy about using modern and effective platforms to spread their message. And that doesn’t include shortwave.

USAGM might survive, but the audience will access its future output in different ways.
 
But they can change the platform emphasis. As previously mentioned, whatever you think of the current right wing MAGA movement you have to agree they are very savvy about using modern and effective platforms to spread their message. And that doesn’t include shortwave.

USAGM might survive, but the audience will access its future output in different ways.

Yep I agree with all of that. They are all first and foremost media people.
 
You should think of it more from the administration's point of view. They're the ones making these decisions. The president didn't pick Kari Lake or Brent Bozell to shut something down. They don't share your concerns.
Yes. I fully apologize for the last sentence in my previous post. I'm obviously very angry and upset about what is happening today. I will go away for a while and try to calm down.
 
But they can change the platform emphasis. As previously mentioned, whatever you think of the current right wing MAGA movement you have to agree they are very savvy about using modern and effective platforms to spread their message. And that doesn’t include shortwave.

USAGM might survive, but the audience will access its future output in different ways.
VOA is already very active on various social media platforms. Actually, I find the continued emphasis on shortwave in this thread rather out-of-touch when shortwave represents a small fraction of VOA's output in the current day. Nowhere do I get the sense that VOA still believes shortwave is a primary means of reaching audiences.

Again, the language service fact sheets are highly useful in learning about VOA's operations. Click on any individual language service, and on the left under "quick facts" there will be links to that language's social media accounts. Subscriber/follower numbers and view counts of individual posts/videos available directly on the social media platforms will give a sense of how many people are being reached through digital means.
 
Actually, I find the continued emphasis on shortwave in this thread rather out-of-touch when shortwave represents a small fraction of VOA's output in the current day. Nowhere do I get the sense that VOA still believes shortwave is a primary means of reaching audiences.
The shortwave discussion isn’t “out of touch” but is pointing out that the various USAGM services continue to have a significant shortwave presence despite recent cuts. The thinking is that most, if not all of that SW distribution is about to be eliminated in favor of online/social media/podcast platforms.

USAGM and its various predecessors have used shortwave for the past 83 years, so a complete shutdown will be the end of an era.
 
The shortwave discussion isn’t “out of touch” but is pointing out that the various USAGM services continue to have a significant shortwave presence despite recent cuts. The thinking is that most, if not all of that SW distribution is about to be eliminated in favor of online/social media/podcast platforms.
Correct, because people are "suddenly" realizing that shortwave has absolutely no practical purpose today.
USAGM and its various predecessors have used shortwave for the past 83 years, so a complete shutdown will be the end of an era.
And it has been dead for about two decades at least. In nations where domestic SW was used, it started dying off in the 70's, in fact.

Every nation has its own "inside the Beltway" community, and they are often the last to know about what is happening in the rural and more distant areas of their own nation. This is the kind of mentality that demands 100% electric vehicles without understanding that the farmer or rancher who lives out in the country is going to have problems all the time; it is just "lack of awareness".
 
How many independent nations are going to give a local radio license to the United States of America's government?

I believe the number is somewhere below "zero".
I just looked up the info (linked by another poster here) on just VOA's Bambara service to Mali and they state that they have several FMs in the largest cities. So apparently it is done, although a different way -- probably by paying stations to air the programming.
 
I just looked up the info (linked by another poster here) on just VOA's Bambara service to Mali and they state that they have several FMs in the largest cities. So apparently it is done, although a different way -- probably by paying stations to air the programming.
Now this is an interesting line of research. Mali's telecommunications licensing authority shows that the BBC, VOA, and Medi1Radio are licensed international operators within the country. Unfortunately, it's hard to find any other details because copies of these licenses don't seem to be online. The BBC does have FM stations within the country like VOA does.

RFI and France 24 were previously licensed in Mali. They had their licenses withdrawn in 2022 after the outlets aired reportage critical of the Malian Armed Forces, with this linked AP article saying it was "the first time that Mali’s government has withdrawn the operating license of foreign media." Now all of that makes me question how truly independent the BBC and VOA services targeting this region can possibly be, but that's a whole different area of research.
 
RFI and France 24 were previously licensed in Mali. They had their licenses withdrawn in 2022 after the outlets aired reportage critical of the Malian Armed Forces, with this linked AP article saying it was "the first time that Mali’s government has withdrawn the operating license of foreign media." Now all of that makes me question how truly independent the BBC and VOA services targeting this region can possibly be, but that's a whole different area of research.
If the purpose of the VOA is to bring "truth" or the American perspective to other nations, how is renting a local station serve any purpose in a nation where that station can be closed instantly at the whim of a government that does not support the United States?
 
If the purpose of the VOA is to bring "truth" or the American perspective to other nations, how is renting a local station serve any purpose in a nation where that station can be closed instantly at the whim of a government that does not support the United States?
It gets the message out while it's on the air there, that's the point. Syndicated commercial radio programs don't just fold up completely if they get removed from a station. They find another station in a market if they can. So it could be with the VOA.

In the case of the VOA, the local FM seems to be a decent alternative to SW. As we all know, internet can be blocked by a government as easily as FM stations being either yanked off the air, or told to yank some programming off the air. Either the VOA is concerned with getting the American message out -- whatever that actually is -- or it isn't. It remains to be seen how this administration will treat VOA's mission.
 
It gets the message out while it's on the air there, that's the point. Syndicated commercial radio programs don't just fold up completely if they get removed from a station. They find another station in a market if they can. So it could be with the VOA.
But if the local government removes it from one station, no other station would take it. And the really big question of "why" a station would take VOA programming other is still at the top of the list. Only a very bad station with no ratings and no revenue would do this, and, thus, nobody would be listening.
In the case of the VOA, the local FM seems to be a decent alternative to SW. As we all know, internet can be blocked by a government as easily as FM stations being either yanked off the air, or told to yank some programming off the air. Either the VOA is concerned with getting the American message out -- whatever that actually is -- or it isn't. It remains to be seen how this administration will treat VOA's mission.
The problem is that the VOA was significantly based on the idea that shortwave could relay "our" message to totalitarian states where there was no freedom of expression. In that sort of nation, the VOA can not rent local FMs and the internet will likely be blocked.
 
The problem is that the VOA was significantly based on the idea that shortwave could relay "our" message to totalitarian states where there was no freedom of expression. In that sort of nation, the VOA can not rent local FMs and the internet will likely be blocked.

Plus, those "totalitarian states" are no longer our enemies. Based on what I've read so far, I don't believe anyone involved in USAGM believes in using shortwave for anything. They seem more concerned about the message than the medium.
 
Plus, those "totalitarian states" are no longer our enemies. Based on what I've read so far, I don't believe anyone involved in USAGM believes in using shortwave for anything. They seem more concerned about the message than the medium.
And that attitude is similar to the ancient treatment of the mentally ill: lock them in a padded room and let them yell all the want. A message without a medium is just that.
 
But if the local government removes it from one station, no other station would take it. And the really big question of "why" a station would take VOA programming other is still at the top of the list. Only a very bad station with no ratings and no revenue would do this, and, thus, nobody would be listening.

The problem is that the VOA was significantly based on the idea that shortwave could relay "our" message to totalitarian states where there was no freedom of expression. In that sort of nation, the VOA can not rent local FMs and the internet will likely be blocked.
True, but some countries have FM's close to borders with other countries where it could still be used. Radio Ndarason has FM's ringing the Lake Chad region, with some FM's that can be heard across borders of all four countries bordering the lake region. And there's MW as well. Most FM radios have MW on them.

The issue is just how much the US is willing to spend on these older technologies to reach totalitarian states. China jams R. Free Asia, presumably because they don't want its message getting into their country. And it's primarily on SW. There's always satellite, of course, but in third world countries satellite receivers are for government networks and rich people.

The fact is, according to VOA, they do actually have programming on FM's in various parts of Africa and the rest of the third world. So obviously some governments have no issue with the practice, even if they may not be exceptionally friendly with the US.
 
Plus, those "totalitarian states" are no longer our enemies. Based on what I've read so far, I don't believe anyone involved in USAGM believes in using shortwave for anything. They seem more concerned about the message than the medium.
I'm not sure China could be considered an enemy, but it's definitely an adversary, and they jam our signals. And they're a one party rule state.
 
True, but some countries have FM's close to borders with other countries where it could still be used. Radio Ndarason has FM's ringing the Lake Chad region, with some FM's that can be heard across borders of all four countries bordering the lake region. And there's MW as well. Most FM radios have MW on them.
Radio Ndarason also uses shortwave. Their website includes shortwave and FM frequencies, but the SW info is out of date: Radio Ndarason International
The fact is, according to VOA, they do actually have programming on FM's in various parts of Africa and the rest of the third world. So obviously some governments have no issue with the practice, even if they may not be exceptionally friendly with the US.
VOA is on FM in many African cities, as are the BBC and RFI. One weird thing about the BBC World Service websites recently is that there no longer appears to be easily accessible links to their shortwave frequencies webpage. It still exists (and I’ve had it bookmarked for many years) but you have to otherwise do an online search for it. Easy to find the webstreams and podcasts, though.
 


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