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Do kids really like oldies?

When anything other than currents began to be played on Top 40 stations... somewhere in the mid-60's, the "gold" or "flashbacks" were all from the Rock 'n' Roll era, generally going back to the later 50's. Few played early 1955-1958 Top 40 hits as even then they sounded "dated" to PDs.

The term "oldies" was popularized by Art Laboe, whose "Oldies but Goodies" albums in the 60's. In fact, he trademarked that term, and it took a while for stations to use just "oldies" for fear of a TM violation.

Art Laboe - Wikipedia (Very incomplete, particularly on the Oldies but Goodies albums which were his biggest project for many years).
"The term "oldies" was popularized by Art Laboe, whose "Oldies but Goodies" albums in the 60's...."
Those LPs were, and are on CD, up-and-down affairs. A number of re-recordings or maybe originally rejected masters are on them. They are inferior, sometimes deeply, inferior to the actual original hit versions. At the College radio station, we have a number of these and I've marked all of the non-original hit recordings so that, hopefully, no one will play them.
 
We're currently having an issue with one of our grandkids whose friends have got him listening to music that we believe to be harmful (dark lyrics talking about suicide, alluding to doing violence, etc.) He's only 8 so this seems wildly inappropriate, but it's what his friends are listening to apparently.
There's been notably "dark" (on the evil side) music since about the mid 1960s. (which does not really include the teenage tragedy tunes of the 1950s and early 1960s). One, or some, of the earliest came from the west coast band The Sonics. The music took the deep dive into dark lyrics with Black Sabbath in the 1970s and some underground Punk Rock in the late 1970s. In 1980, Ozzy Osbourne's solo album "Blizzard Of Oz" had the song "Suicide Solution". Then there was the death/thrash/speed metal, that took off in the 1980s, such as early Metallica ("Fade To Black"-song) and Megadeth (Their first LP entitled "Killing Is My Business...And Business Is Good" on the Independent Combat Records in 1985). Some groups, like Slayer, have what I consider to be evil lyrics released the album "Hell Awaits". Their imagery had/has included satanic things. From Wikipedia: "The song "Jihad" from (the LP) Christ Illusion sparked controversy among families of the September 11 attack victims, as it deals with the attack from the perspective of one of the religious terrorists ... "It kind of has an 'Angel Of Death' feel because it doesn't condemn anyone or say that anyone's right or wrong."
"Angel Of Death" is another Slayer song. In the "underground Metal" scene, there are/were many deep/dark/doom bands.
A pioneering death/thrash metal band was Death. Then came Cannibal Corpse, Cradle of Filth, Dying Fetus, Napalm Death... and the list goes on. Many of these bands would say they are just trying to be music versions of horror movies.
 
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I always liked oldies type music. I was just a little kid during the 60s, but for some reason it stuck with me. I actually could never stand the 70s music compared to the 60s. I mean, "Smoking in the boys room" compared to "Happy together. " C'mon man! But that's just me. I did love The Carpenters. Just not "Billy, don't be a hero." Grrr! I agree with what David said. There's a small percentage of young people who like oldies.
 
There's been notably "dark" (on the evil side) music since about the mid 1960s. (which does not really include the teenage tragedy tunes of the 1950s and early 1960s). One, or some, of the earliest came from the west coast band The Sonics. The music took the deep dive into dark lyrics with Black Sabbath in the 1970s and some underground Punk Rock in the late 1970s. In 1980, Ozzy Osbourne's solo album "Blizzard Of Oz" had the song "Suicide Solution". Then there was the death/thrash/speed metal, that took off in the 1980s, such as early Metallica ("Fade To Black"-song) and Megadeth (Their first LP entitled "Killing Is My Business...And Business Is Good" on the Independent Combat Records in 1985). Some groups, like Slayer, have what I consider to be evil lyrics released the album "Hell Awaits". Their imagery had/has included satanic things. From Wikipedia: "The song "Jihad" from (the LP) Christ Illusion sparked controversy among families of the September 11 attack victims, as it deals with the attack from the perspective of one of the religious terrorists ... "It kind of has an 'Angel Of Death' feel because it doesn't condemn anyone or say that anyone's right or wrong."
"Angel Of Death" is another Slayer song. In the "underground Metal" scene, there are/were many deep/dark/doom bands.
A pioneering death/thrash metal band was Death. Then came Cannibal Corpse, Cradle of Filth, Dying Fetus, Napalm Death... and the list goes on. Many of these bands would say they are just trying to be music versions of horror movies.
When you mention the "teenage tragedy tunes" from the 50s and early 60s, it's worth noting that there was another wave of such songs in the first half of the 70s -- "Rocky" by Austin Roberts and "Run Joey Run" by David Geddes being prime examples. But if you expand the age range of the people who were dying in the songs, I'd really put "Seasons in Sun" by Terry Jacks in that category, along with "Emma" by Hot Chocolate and "Billy Don't Be a Hero" by Bo Donaldson and the Heywoods. But it does seem that particular trend died out (sorry, couldn't resist!) after 1975.
 
When you mention the "teenage tragedy tunes" from the 50s and early 60s, it's worth noting that there was another wave of such songs in the first half of the 70s -- "Rocky" by Austin Roberts and "Run Joey Run" by David Geddes being prime examples. But if you expand the age range of the people who were dying in the songs, I'd really put "Seasons in Sun" by Terry Jacks in that category, along with "Emma" by Hot Chocolate and "Billy Don't Be a Hero" by Bo Donaldson and the Heywoods. But it does seem that particular trend died out (sorry, couldn't resist!) after 1975.
Rod McKuen wrote the English lyrics for "Seasons In The Sun". However, there are a dizzying array of death/speed/thrash metal off-shoot genres. One that I cannot stand is Grindcore. It's a combination of ear-splitting power Metal with underground Industrial music, pulling Industrial Metal inspiration from the likes of "In The Land Of Rape and Honey"-era Ministry which has the recording of "Stigmata" being an underground hit example of their sound. If certain types of people get themselves totally immersed into some of these things, I can hear how it could have a negative impact.
 
Even thinking about heavy metal makes my ears hurt.

Some of the earliest examples of the genre by, for example, Led Zeppelin, are tame by comparison. Some of it I actually kind of like because it was still somewhat musical.

To that end, can heavy metal even be considered music anymore? To me, all it is is insanely loud, heavily distorted guitars with screaming vocals so loud and distorted themselves that they can't possibly carry any sort of melody, plus who can make out any actual words? I've never been into it, so maybe there's something I'm not getting?

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Even thinking about heavy metal makes my ears hurt.
That is a matter of taste. I have the same reaction hearing "big bands and crooners" and most 20th Century classical music.
 
I often check out random stations on TuneIn, and I've noticed it seems that on the weekends, a lot of New England college stations seem to be playing 60s -70s oldies. Stations originating in PA, NJ, and ME to name a few. These are often in automated hours, too, not hosted legacy shows necessarily. So either someone on campus likes it or they're doing something to serve an older audience commercial stations don't.
 
I often check out random stations on TuneIn, and I've noticed it seems that on the weekends, a lot of New England college stations seem to be playing 60s -70s oldies. Stations originating in PA, NJ, and ME to name a few. These are often in automated hours, too, not hosted legacy shows necessarily. So either someone on campus likes it or they're doing something to serve an older audience commercial stations don't.
It would be interesting to pick one or two of those and send them an email asking why they cover that era of music which is not likely to be favored by students but perhaps well liked in the community.
 
Rod McKuen wrote the English lyrics for "Seasons In The Sun". However, there are a dizzying array of death/speed/thrash metal off-shoot genres. One that I cannot stand is Grindcore. It's a combination of ear-splitting power Metal with underground Industrial music, pulling Industrial Metal inspiration from the likes of "In The Land Of Rape and Honey"-era Ministry which has the recording of "Stigmata" being an underground hit example of their sound. If certain types of people get themselves totally immersed into some of these things, I can hear how it could have a negative impact.
Yes. McKeun's 1960 recording and original lyrics were very dark, not the bouncy Jacks version. I understand the original French was even darker.
 
Yes. McKeun's 1960 recording and original lyrics were very dark, not the bouncy Jacks version. I understand the original French was even darker.
Yes, the Jacques Brel version was very sad as it was sung from a perspective of resentment and betrayal; he says goodby to his cheating wife and then to his friend who was his wife's lover. And it was more in the traditional crooner style of the 50's, not the Johnny Halliday and Claude François pop style.
 
Even thinking about heavy metal makes my ears hurt.

Some of the earliest examples of the genre by, for example, Led Zeppelin, are tame by comparison. Some of it I actually kind of like because it was still somewhat musical.

To that end, can heavy metal even be considered music anymore? To me, all it is is insanely loud, heavily distorted guitars with screaming vocals so loud and distorted themselves that they can't possibly carry any sort of melody, plus who can make out any actual words? I've never been into it, so maybe there's something I'm not getting?

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Here's what I've done to better appreciate modern Metal music and understand what they are singing, minus the lyrics being printed with the release.
This works best for me with the, otherwise, unbearably loud and chaotic Metal, such as thrash and speed. I play the music with the sound level low, but loud enough to hear. I'll be laying on my couch. Close my eyes (usually), and listen closely. After a while, I can understand the lyrics and I can also hear the tune/melody that is, otherwise, buried under the noise. It's interesting. I haven't done this with things like Grindcore because that sub-genre annoys me.
 
Here's what I've done to better appreciate modern Metal music and understand what they are singing, minus the lyrics being printed with the release.
This works best for me with the, otherwise, unbearably loud and chaotic Metal, such as thrash and speed. I play the music with the sound level low, but loud enough to hear. I'll be laying on my couch. Close my eyes (usually), and listen closely. After a while, I can understand the lyrics and I can also hear the tune/melody that is, otherwise, buried under the noise. It's interesting. I haven't done this with things like Grindcore because that sub-genre annoys me.
Metal does sound better turned down. I don't know about the lyrics.
 
When I was in college I, for many years, did a Hard Rock/Metal show. I started to get bored with the sound and excesses of the 1980s "Hair Metal", with the focus on drinking, women and driving (dangerously). Groups like Iron Maiden and Metallica successfully brought new things to Hard Rock/Metal. However, that, at least, indirectly lead to death metal and the other sub-genres previously mentioned here. The relentless anger and negativity wore me out. Given the nature of the music (hard, fast, aggressive or doom sounding) how many lyrical topics can work? Christian Metal bands seem to do it, but sometimes it's hell-and-brimstone preaching.
 
It would be interesting to pick one or two of those and send them an email asking why they cover that era of music which is not likely to be favored by students but perhaps well liked in the community.
In a couple of cases I know of, much of the "Oldies" programming on college radio stations is provided, free-of-charge, by former students and older members of the community who enjoy being on the radio, providing these services. However, I do know of one host, a more recently graduated student, who is in his 20s. As music from the 1950s, '60s and '70s are less prevalent on commercial stations, these programs can raise pretty good sums of money from loyal listeners during pledge drives. The Baby Boom generations are big ones. There are a lot of potential listeners out there.
 
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