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Streetz 95.1 shuts down

JJSPC said:
Translators should only be for AM's. This HD2 stuff to get another "station" is not what the intent was.
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I'll be sure to share that opinion next time I talk with the several non-commercial educational FMs here in L.A. who are reliant on translators to cover the entire region.

There is no rule -- nor has there ever been -- saying the origination has to be on one band or another, analog or digital. If you think there should be, feel free to petition the FCC for rulemaking to create one. And good luck.
 
b-turner said:
W236CF was not causing interference otherwise it would have never been licensed by the FCC. The spacing requirements at the FCC were met.
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Directional antennas used by FM translator stations often do not perform to spec.

There are plenty of translators licensed by the FCC, past or present, that caused interference to licensed full power stations. It's happening as we speak on Long Island.
 
K.M. Richards said:
I'll be sure to share that opinion next time I talk with the several non-commercial educational FMs here in L.A. who are reliant on translators to cover the entire region.

There is no rule -- nor has there ever been -- saying the origination has to be on one band or another, analog or digital. If you think there should be, feel free to petition the FCC for rulemaking to create one. And good luck.
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Wasn't there a rule prohibiting FM translators from rebroadcasting AM stations at one point?
 
MarkW said:
Directional antennas used by FM translator stations often do not perform to spec.

There are plenty of translators licensed by the FCC, past or present, that caused interference to licensed full power stations. It's happening as we speak on Long Island.
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Translators that cause actual interference within a protected contour, or interference with a distant/adjacent market station that you happen to like?
 
luperm said:
Translators that cause actual interference within a protected contour, or interference with a distant/adjacent market station that you happen to like?
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Kenosha County, WI is part of the Chicago DMA.

Bear in mind the protected contour for translator interference purposes is the 48 dBu (50,50) contour. If interference complaints are logged by the affected station within its 48 dBu, it can request the FCC to take action.

In the case of Long Island, 103.1 WWWF without question is enduring interference within its 48 dBu contour and perhaps even within a small portion of its 54 dBu contour.
 
MarkW said:
Kenosha County, WI is part of the Chicago DMA.

Bear in mind the protected contour for translator interference purposes is the 48 dBu (50,50) contour. If interference complaints are logged by the affected station within its 48 dBu, it can request the FCC to take action.

In the case of Long Island, 103.1 WWWF without question is enduring interference within its 48 dBu contour and perhaps even within a small portion of its 54 dBu contour.
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45 dBu, not 48, and it's not an automatic protection zone. That's still the 60 dBu for WWWF.

Within the 45, a station can file an interference complaint *if* it can get a minimum number of affected listeners to complain, and it has to submit a very comprehensive showing that's not easy to assemble.
 
MarkW said:
Kenosha County, WI is part of the Chicago DMA.

Bear in mind the protected contour for translator interference purposes is the 48 dBu (50,50) contour. If interference complaints are logged by the affected station within its 48 dBu, it can request the FCC to take action.
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fybush said:
45 dBu, not 48, and it's not an automatic protection zone. That's still the 60 dBu for WWWF.
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If I may add ... what DMA the stations are in matters precisely zero in these matters.
 
Well, technically WIIL is in an adjacent market. Next Media (former owner of WIIL) changed the COL to Union Grove, which is in the Milwaukee market; this was done so they didn't have to divest their "cash cow". Of course their transmitter is still in Pleasant Prairie, about 6 miles north of the WI/IL border.

And yes, W236CF does start hacking into WIIL's signal not far south of Lake Cook Road. Now I don't know what part of who's 45dBu contour I'm in at a given time but, to a listener, interference is interference.

No wonder people would rather listen to Spotify...
 
I feel like this little translator has been trying for years. Little engine that could. The broadcast areas of 1051-HD2 is huge. And yet, it's all about that translator for some reason.
 
That's unfortunate (thanks for the info, though). I wonder if Windy City Broadcasting is now programming the station itself?

If I were WIIL, I'd work like hell to convince the FCC to force the translator off the air or to reduce power. This is not the first time an Alpha-owned station has faced co-channel interference from a translator. Such a situation happened a number of years ago in central Michigan involving WCEN-FM, and that situation was ultimately resolved when the culprit moved from 94.5 MHz to a different channel.
 
I remember on my 1978 Bonneville Brougham beater, I had a 60" whip antenna that I could collapse/extend as needed. At full length, I could get WIIL (then WJZQ) almost full noise quiet from that car radio on the east side of Calumet City. And pick up 100.7 and 101.5 out of South Bend as well. I could pick up 104.7 from Morris, until WJOB cranked up their translator in Hammond on that station.

But I remember when Streetz came on the air, and I had thought WIIL flipped format to rap. I could get it like it was across the street in Homewood. 250 watts from a very tall building goes far...
 


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