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Asking because I really don't know:

Ongoing debt from Buffalo State university Impact 91.3 ?

and if yes, how so ?
I'm not always tuning into the original alternative, however I don't want to hit preset number four and have static.....
 
As a proud alum of Buffalo State(and on-air staffer of WBNY), I really don't know.

What I DO know is that having a computer basically running the station instead of-you know, actual LIVE DJ's most of the day-isn't a good way to run things. I wish more students got involved with the campus radio station, even if it doesn't get them a job in broadcasting or an associated field.
 
Anyone who would go to school for broadcasting should have their head examined.

You need no school for broadcasting.
Total agreement. I've mentioned before that I left high school to build my first station, and went back to college when I was consulting 10 years later. I looked at the courses and the textbooks, and realized that a lot of the teachers had "not made it" in real radio.
I have a masters degree in psychology. Not broadcasting
I studied sociology and business in a dual major. Added a lot of songs to my repertoire that way.
 
Total agreement. I've mentioned before that I left high school to build my first station, and went back to college when I was consulting 10 years later. I looked at the courses and the textbooks, and realized that a lot of the teachers had "not made it" in real radio.

I studied sociology and business in a dual major. Added a lot of songs to my repertoire that way.
Sociology is perfect for broadcasting. It’s important to realize how messed up society really is. That way, you can deal with it.

I was 4 years into broadcasting when the students going to college for broadcasting went. I kept telling them to get another major.

Broadcasting degree should be outlawed
 
Broadcasting degree should be outlawed
The owner of the group I managed in Puerto Rico (a dozen stations, 4 networks) refused to interview college broadcast grads. His statement: "They think they know more than I do".
 
There is no bigger scam perpetrated on generations of Americans than the necessity of having a college degree (other than in a small handful of professions). Speaking personally, while I do have a B.S. in Technology Training, it hasn't done a single thing to help in my 35+ year career in broadcast engineering.
 
Total agreement. I've mentioned before that I left high school to build my first station, and went back to college when I was consulting 10 years later. I looked at the courses and the textbooks, and realized that a lot of the teachers had "not made it" in real radio.

I studied sociology and business in a dual major. Added a lot of songs to my repertoire that way.
Very true statement. It’s true for many other majors as well, they teach because they couldn’t do it in the real world.
 
BuffaloRadioFan said:
Very true statement. It’s true for many other majors as well, they teach because they couldn’t do it in the real world.

Tom (McCray) Donahue, Brian Meyer, Val Townshend, Alan Pergament, Mike Igoe, Dan Berggren, noted Buffalo Sabres broadcast producers and a few others (in Buffalo and other markets) might take exception to that statement.

Most colleges/universities require real-world experience and a Master's degree. Professors often have a MFA, MS in IT, MS in Music or an MBA, and some years in the business. Respected Billboard radio columnist Claude Hall (Vox Jox) taught for a number of years at SUNY Brockport.

Pursuing a Communications degree these days may not be the best investment, but the fact is many Communications programs today include Journalism-English, Sociology, Technology-IT and Accounting-Business requirements. A Business minor also helps.

And most new hires at radio stations have done internships where they pick up credit hours in Broadcasting Reality 201. That's good for at least three credit hours of Philosophy & Psychology worthy of Immanuel Kant, Albert Camus and Søren Keirkegarrd; Freud, Leary and B.F. Skinner.
 
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You’re born with talent or your not.

Internships give real life experience. Degrees do not.

I know of no one , including myself, that would hire based on a degree in the broadcast industry

I hire based on passion . What I look for cannot be taught.

That being said, the degree doesn’t hurt, it just doesn’t help, at least in 2025.
 
You’re born with talent or your not.

Internships give real life experience. Degrees do not.

I know of no one , including myself, that would hire based on a degree in the broadcast industry

I hire based on passion . What I look for cannot be taught.

That being said, the degree doesn’t hurt, it just doesn’t help, at least in 2025.
I mentioned this in another thread...

I spent three accelerated years in college while doing consulting work. That was after a decade in broadcast management in fairly large million-plus markets. I did not take any broadcasting courses except on in my senior year: broadcast management.

My term paper involved taking a low rated station and converting it to Hot AC (the name had not yet been created, of course) and selling as an adult core medium. It detailed research, the differences between Top 40 and MOR and other factors. I got the lowest grade I got on any term paper in any course in 4 years of college.

I missed graduation because I was hired to turn around a last-place barks-like-a-dog station in a top 15 market. I implemented my term paper. First book: #1 in 18-49 women, tied for #2 in 12+.

'nuf said.
 
I mentioned this in another thread...

I spent three accelerated years in college while doing consulting work. That was after a decade in broadcast management in fairly large million-plus markets. I did not take any broadcasting courses except on in my senior year: broadcast management.

My term paper involved taking a low rated station and converting it to Hot AC (the name had not yet been created, of course) and selling as an adult core medium. It detailed research, the differences between Top 40 and MOR and other factors. I got the lowest grade I got on any term paper in any course in 4 years of college.

I missed graduation because I was hired to turn around a last-place barks-like-a-dog station in a top 15 market. I implemented my term paper. First book: #1 in 18-49 women, tied for #2 in 12+.

'nuf said.
Yep. Spot on
 
they teach because they couldn’t do it in the real world.

Maybe. For the last 20 years, there hasn't been much job security in the radio real world. Lots of people on these boards will say they would have wanted to have a career in radio, but either it didn't pay enough or it wasn't secure enough. It wasn't that they couldn't do the job. But they couldn't support a family on it. So they left for another field. Some went into teaching.

I went to college for me, not for a job. I wanted to learn some things, and college helped me do that. The degree helped me see how big the radio business really was. Take it from me: It can be a lot bigger than sitting at a console playing music. The world is as big as you want it to be. I learned that in college.
 
There is no bigger scam perpetrated on generations of Americans than the necessity of having a college degree (other than in a small handful of professions). Speaking personally, while I do have a B.S. in Technology Training, it hasn't done a single thing to help in my 35+ year career in broadcast engineering.
i admit, i didnt even graduate high school.. not proud of it, but thats the way life turned out for me for a number of reasons.

And before anyone retorts.. well look at the places youve worked.. you could be somewhere bigger with a high school diploma and some kind of higher education? Youre assuming I want to be in bigger places.

In my 22 years of radio, ive never once been asked during/after an interview or on the job about my education and peopel are shocked when i finally tell them
 
Maybe. For the last 20 years, there hasn't been much job security in the radio real world. Lots of people on these boards will say they would have wanted to have a career in radio, but either it didn't pay enough or it wasn't secure enough. It wasn't that they couldn't do the job. But they couldn't support a family on it. So they left for another field. Some went into teaching.

I went to college for me, not for a job. I wanted to learn some things, and college helped me do that. The degree helped me see how big the radio business really was. Take it from me: It can be a lot bigger than sitting at a console playing music. The world is as big as you want it to be. I learned that in college.
I wonder about this too, and I work for a university. We aren't a joke school, we're top 10 in the country and top 50 in the world, and still a lot of our grads struggle once they graduate.

I think it all depends on what degree you do, and what attitude you bring. We don't even offer broadcasting degrees, but if you come here and do your English Lit or Communications degree, get a top grade, and do absolutely nothing else with your time at university, it'll bite you when you come to look for graduate jobs. Just having a good degree from a good university isn't enough any more.

If you come here and take all the opportunities you have while you're studying, you can find yourself in a pretty good position. Because we're a top school, there are employers and non-profits constantly sniffing around for talented people to intern and take part in projects, and that's a great way to get your name known, get some real stuff for real orgs on your LinkedIn, and stick out when you come to start filing job applications.

What I've noticed, working here, is that the difference in attitude often tallies with country of origin. We have so many super talented and smart people from India, China, Nigeria, hundreds of different countries who often do scientific and computing related subjects and grab every opportunity that comes their way. Meanwhile, we have a lot of domestic students from privileged upper-middle-class backgrounds who spend 3-4 years partying and phoning it in, and expect the good graduate job to come their way because they've never had to fight for anything.

Myself, I went to college after radio, in my 30s. I had no degree and no real prospects and the bottom had fallen out of the industry here. I did city planning, but while I was at university I started working for the university part-time in the fundraising office to gather some cash while studying. When I graduated, a similar job was available full-time at a neighboring college, and I took it as a stopgap. I got promoted a couple of times quite quickly, and I now at age 40 have a good career and well-paying job not in city planning, but in university fundraising and advancement. I still use the skills I gathered in the radio industry every day. There are a lot of transferable skills out of radio into other fields if you're inventive - people skills, communication skills, marketing skills, networking skills, technical skills.
 
Ongoing debt from Buffalo State university Impact 91.3?

From what I can tell, nothing right now.

The University has posted a detailed plan on how it will deal with a $17 million deficit. They're cutting a bunch of academic programs. Communications isn't one of them. Neither are any of the sub-degrees.


As for WBNY, if you look at degree programs, the station is listed this way:

WBNY 91.3FM: This student-operated radio station is owned by the student government. The station programs alternative music and information 24 hours a day.

The university says it's owned by the student government. The FCC says it's owned by the university. Either way, if student involvement is low, then the potential is there that either the university or the government will make a decision. The factors might be student involvement, the level of service the station provides to the university, and the expense. They're all important. If I was involved with the station, I'd be thinking about what I could do to help all three.

As a proud alum of Buffalo State(and on-air staffer of WBNY), I really don't know.

What I DO know is that having a computer basically running the station instead of-you know, actual LIVE DJ's most of the day-isn't a good way to run things. I wish more students got involved with the campus radio station, even if it doesn't get them a job in broadcasting or an associated field.

My question to you is what is the level of alumni involvement? Could alumni help with funding the station or operations? That might make the station less vulnerable. What I've seen is that in other college stations around the country, whether public or private schools, the alumni are very important to station sustainability. That means a station alumni association that works with station management.
 
I feel the work I put into my Masters in Psychology worked to my benefit at Canisius College.

I was already working in radio, so I knew Psy would be perfect as I could always benefit from that knowledge in the real world.

Most of the people I know who have a comminutions degree are working now in broadcasting for pennies

The degree landscape has changed a lot from the mid 90s when I graduated. I paid for my entire schooling by working overnights on air at WYRK. I would go to school right after my air shift

Like I said, I doubt a communications degree would hurt, but as hiring goes for me, it does not help.

Passion in the belly is what I look for. Big difference between book smarts and street smarts
 
Most of the people I know who have a comminutions degree are working now in broadcasting for pennies

The fact that these schools keep turning out thousands of graduates every year with these degrees is what makes them less valuable. Especially in a field that can be run by a computer in a closet. If anybody can do it, then that's usually what happens. Anybody gets hired. That's why radio sounds the way it does. There are no objective standards. There are no real professional organizations, other than the union or the NAB. It was much better when there were fewer job applicants and when there were some knowledge barriers to getting hired.
 
The fact that these schools keep turning out thousands of graduates every year with these degrees is what makes them less valuable. Especially in a field that can be run by a computer in a closet. If anybody can do it, then that's usually what happens. Anybody gets hired. That's why radio sounds the way it does. There are no objective standards. There are no real professional organizations, other than the union or the NAB. It was much better when there were fewer job applicants and when there were some knowledge barriers to getting hired.
Yes, talent does not come from schooling . God gave it to you at birth.

Internships are the way to go, when you’re in high school, not college

My guidance counselor at Lancaster High got me the High School internship at WPHD in 1983. I fed off the talent that surrounded me. Brian J. Walker, JP, Wayne Summers, and course my idols, Taylor and Moore .

That let to me being on air at WPHD, which led me to being on the air at WZIR/WRXT, which gave me the biggest break in 1986 at WYRK.
 
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