so the HB toons and the pre 1986-MGM library are split from the original turner networks?
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WBD Split Announced
- Thread starter michael hagerty
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Morally this could be fraud. The bonds were sold with the studio or content creator part of the mix. I am sure the lawyers will keep this thing "legal".
IMHO who ever creates the content will survive in the long run. Movie theaters, Video rentals, OTA TV, Cable, Satellite, and Streaming are just forms of delivery for the content and are subject to technical obsoletion
IMHO who ever creates the content will survive in the long run. Movie theaters, Video rentals, OTA TV, Cable, Satellite, and Streaming are just forms of delivery for the content and are subject to technical obsoletion
It seems like they've been playing "hot potato" with the debt a while. I wonder if they can do that for all time?
Last year, the networks still made $8 billion dollars in profit (down from $9 billion in 2023). That's still a lot of money.
Couldn't they consolidate most though, so that only the "best" stays on and gets viewers shutting a lot of the dead weight down?
As long as you make your payments on time.....
In the cable world, they get paid for every channel.
It's not that hard, really. Business 101.
There is money to be made from them still. But if you keep them in company A, their decline drags down the stock price. So you spin.
The biggest downside here is to the new company, which looks like it's getting left holding too much of the debt bag.
Isn't that new company doomed though? It doesn't look like the Global Networks has a future at all.
But they're billions in debt...there's got to be stuff that hadn't been paid off for years.
At some point, they either sell some assets or bankrupt that part of the company. Or they just keep on keepin' on.
A lot of people sign 30 year mortgages to buy a house.
The US government is over $36 trillion in debt, and nobody seems worried.
Yes, but those people aren't in debt because of it. It seems like if people get in debt, they spend outside their means.
Do you own a house? If you have a mortgage you are in debt.
I own a condo...there are monthly fees to pay it off.
There are condo fees you pay to the condo association, but there's a monthly payment on your debt to a mortgage company. It's principle and interest. If you don't pay it, they get your condo.
I see. So once companies start losing money, they're in trouble.
Exactly. Companies don't look at debt and say "We don't have that kind of money liquid right now". They look at the debt service---how much is it a month to pay the lenders as agreed---and say "does our cash flow cover it?"
We're talking about companies---even in the spinoff group---that are still raking in significant cash flow.
The downside is that however much money goes to debt service every month is money that otherwise (if you didn't have the debt) could be re-invested in equipment, facilities, programming or staff---or just chalked up as massive profit.
Or just don’t buy the stuff you can’t afford. Most of this debt goes back to AT&T.
Define "afford". Is it "cash on hand" or is it "cash flow covers the monthly loan payment"?
Isn’t it more get the stock price up quick and worry about it later.
My biggest takeaway is the TNT Sports and AEW.
Tony Khan banked on getting renewed with WBD; I assume the contract will go to Global Networks. Some of the content are on HBO MAX as well. My guess they will have to remove them as soon as the split happens. But I can't imagine if this new company keeps swimming in debt, they will satisfy for a mid-product from a pro wrestling standpoint hovering at half a million viewers a week. They may just cancel it outright. Then you have the contracts with TNT Sports. They NEED A STREAMING PLATFORM to justify the worth of the content (MLB, NHL, French Open); It wouldn't shock me if ESPN or FOX Sports tries to buy the rights OUTRIGHT for FOX ONE or ESPN altogether. Everything else outside of the Discovery end of things from a cable channel standpoint is useless now. If CNN is broadcasting a play live instead of covering news regardless of ratings, that is a huge concern for me as it shows they're doing everything they can for the almighty nielsen ratings no.
Tony Khan banked on getting renewed with WBD; I assume the contract will go to Global Networks. Some of the content are on HBO MAX as well. My guess they will have to remove them as soon as the split happens. But I can't imagine if this new company keeps swimming in debt, they will satisfy for a mid-product from a pro wrestling standpoint hovering at half a million viewers a week. They may just cancel it outright. Then you have the contracts with TNT Sports. They NEED A STREAMING PLATFORM to justify the worth of the content (MLB, NHL, French Open); It wouldn't shock me if ESPN or FOX Sports tries to buy the rights OUTRIGHT for FOX ONE or ESPN altogether. Everything else outside of the Discovery end of things from a cable channel standpoint is useless now. If CNN is broadcasting a play live instead of covering news regardless of ratings, that is a huge concern for me as it shows they're doing everything they can for the almighty nielsen ratings no.