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Well, let's see how much credit I have built up here over 20+ years.

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Maybe it's time to move all discussion of all aspects of this unprecedented presidency to dinner tables and barrooms and seniors' regular breakfast gatherings at Denny's or McDonald's. This will be seen by some as a partial surrender, because hashing out all that stuff here reaches more eyeballs than arguing it over McGriddles and hash browns. But in reality, it's a wash, as no one in either location will ever do anything that moves the needle toward normalcy.

Meanwhile, we have yet another thread headed for lockdown and the inevitable Phoenix threads in which the same bile is regurgitated for a few weeks until those too are silenced.
Or use a search engine to find a forum more suited to political discussions where posters can post to their hearts content there. Another board (for using Raspberry Pis) which I'm a Mod on we're telling people to take it to DMs if they don't want to visit a political forum.
 
While the board debates its own relevance, the world moves on.

In the last hour, Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem held a news conference in Los Angeles. United States Senator Alex Padilla, a Democrat, accused Secretary Noem of "exaggerating and embellishing" and was forcibly removed from the news conference, and in the hallway, taken to the ground and handcuffed. This, despite identifying himself clearly and repeatedly. Photos, video and the full story here:

 
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Fact check. Did Fybush resign as moderator only and is still a member of this board? We need to stay with the facts.

This is something anyone can look up on their own. On the Home page the staff is listed in a box on the right side of the screen. Fybush is no longer listed.

But if you do a search under Members, you fill find that his account remains active.
 
Public broadcasting isn't political. This has all been discussed many times. But the followers of one man have made it political. They can't name a single host or reporter.
In my case, after sampling the news shows on the affiliated stations is not to my taste for two reasons: I prefer more condensed story writing and like a more rapid delivery. This style-based opinion has nothing to do with politics; I like brief audio material in condensed form. For some depth, I will read the sources I subscribe to such as WSJ, NYT, Reuters, INFOBAE, etc.

I also do no like podcasts as they move too slowly. I am a speed reader and like to read news and commentary as I can do that very fast, skipping details I find repetitive or irrelevant.

Beyond that, I do find NPR to be "Northeastern white guys with college degrees" in style and, even, vocabulary (Note that this is a question of style, not politics I'm a kid who grew up in South America and can't relate in this instance). In this aspect, I do find NPR less to my liking. But again, even if I found it less left-of-center I would not listen because of the style.
They don't really know the names of the shows. But they read Uri Berliner like it was the bible and know every line in it.
I had to look that one up as I was unfamiliar with him or his "publications"
That's all that matters to them. I see it every time the subject comes up. A lot of these people recognize that corporate broadcasting hasn't gotten better. The problems that led to the formation of public broadcasting still exist. But none of it matters. I saw an article posted in the Boston Globe by the daughter of Newt Minow. The comments after the article attacking her personally were awful.
Newton Minow was an elitist. If you look, under the "Commentary and Opinion" book section of www.worldradiohistory.com you can find those of his books that are out of print. Was a station owner and manager when he was in the FCC and realized then as I do now that he spoke for very few. Delightfully, those of us who want deeper news coverage had other options than radio in the 60's and have even more today.
I can name a bunch of conservative republican congressmen from midwestern states who love public broadcasting and are dependable votes whenever it comes up. Unfortunately, it's starting to look like all of them have been co-opted, and are on the verge of voting for a bill that will take millions of dollars away from their states, and cause their governors big problems.
What I have read, without doing a person-by-person checklist, is that all would favor having the states control this as opposed to the federal government. I can't see the logistics working here, as they would still need offices in NYC, DC and other nenws centers. But they are all in favor of moving things like education to the state level and taking federal authority away.
One man has made Disney political. It's absolutely crazy.
Personal anecdote: in my family is a couple with children who have bought annual passes for Disney every year for several decades... I mean going back to around Y2K. In the last several years, they have seen Disney move from their family, religious and social values and have not been back since. So there is a real world example of how an entertainment company can be viewed as "political". To them, it is real.
 
While the board decides its relevance, the world moves on.

In the last hour, Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem held a news conference in Los Angeles. United States Senator Alex Padilla, a Democrat, accused Secretary Noem of "exaggerating and embellishing" and was forcibly removed from the news conference, and in the hallway, taken to the ground and handcuffed. This, despite identifying himself clearly and repeatedly. Photos, video and the full story here:

I watched and found Padilla to be disruptive. He was not engaging in a Q&A portion of the presentation but interrupting the Secretary of Homeland Security's presentation.

Senator Padilla chose disrespectful political theatre and interrupted a live press conference without identifying himself or having his Senate security pin on as he lunged toward Secretary Noem. Mr. Padilla was told repeatedly to back away and did not comply with officers’ repeated commands.
@SecretService thought he was an attacker and officers acted appropriately. Secretary Noem met with Senator Padilla after and held a 15 minute meeting.

If I did that, let's say, during the keynote speech at the annual NAB convention, yelling and lunging towards the podium, I'd be tackled, silenced and removed, too. Justly.

Note that Secretary Noem had a lengthy meeting with Padilla afterwards. I can't find a report on what they talked about, but this is obviously worth checking back into.

Comparison: in Puerto Rico we had a reporter for what we called a "secondary" news/talk station who would interrupt the opening remarks of every press conference by a New Progressive Party (PNP) with yelled questions well before the Q&A section of the event. The reporter was a known militant in the ranks of the Popular Democratic Party (PPD) and, after he retired some years ago, he admitted that he thought his interruptions became the news item instead of the topics the PNP politician was presenting, thus changing the perception. He created news to divert attention from real news.
 
All I have to say is that if the Secret Service doesn't recognize a sitting member of the U.S. Senate, even after he identifies himself, we have a bigger problem in D.C. than whether or not Alex disrupted the press conference or not.
 
Personal anecdote: in my family is a couple with children who have bought annual passes for Disney every year for several decades... I mean going back to around Y2K. In the last several years, they have seen Disney move from their family, religious and social values and have not been back since.
Disney has been having "Gay Days" since 1991. Maybe you just didn't notice, or you saw them wearing red, and thought it meant something different.
 
In my case, after sampling the news shows on the affiliated stations is not to my taste

That's OK. There are no radio stations in this country that appeal to everyone.

Newton Minow was an elitist.

He was also an FCC commissioner.

What I have read, without doing a person-by-person checklist, is that all would favor having the states control this as opposed to the federal government.

The states DO control this. In more than a dozen cases, state governments OWN the public NPR affiliated stations. (mostly southern red states) They can decide if they want to carry NPR programming. South Carolina is the only one that has announced its cutting back on NPR News. For their part, NPR uses the local affiliates as local bureaus. It's very decentralized by design.

There are hundreds of non-com radio stations that receive government funding that carry NO NPR News programming.

The only reason the feds are now involved is because the president has made it an issue. CPB is not under his jurisdiction.
 
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I watched and found Padilla to be disruptive. He was not engaging in a Q&A portion of the presentation but interrupting the Secretary of Homeland Security's presentation.

I watched the live coverage on FOX News and the only point at which it was clear there was a disruption in the room was the Senator asking people to take their hands off him.

If I did that, let's say, during the keynote speech at the annual NAB convention, yelling and lunging towards the podium, I'd be tackled, silenced and removed, too. Justly.

Interesting that you used the same word---"lunged"---that Noem's people used in their statement, despite the lack of any video of him actually lunging.

And there is a BIG difference between some guy, even an esteemed broadcaster such as yourself, interrupting a keynote at a private function and a United States Senator at a news conference.

By the way, Senator Padilla is the ranking member of the Senate Judiciary subcommittee on immigration, citizenship, and border safety, which has oversight of federal agencies with citizenship, asylum, refugee, and immigration enforcement responsibilities.

Interrupting prior to the Q&A is---maybe---poor form, but it's not wrestle you out into the hallway, give you a taste of the carpet and handcuff you stuff.

Note that Secretary Noem had a lengthy meeting with Padilla afterwards. I can't find a report on what they talked about, but this is obviously worth checking back into.

The statements from both offices are likely to be fascinating and diverse.

Also worthy of note, this is how Secretary Noem described ICE's mission in Los Angeles just prior to the scuffle:

"We are not going away. We are staying here to liberate the city from the socialists and the burdensome leadership that this governor and that this mayor have placed on this country and what they have tried to insert into the city."

If you're looking for the line between government and politics, with those two sentences, Secretary Noem is on the other side of it. Video here:

 
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While the board debates its own relevance, the world moves on.

In the last hour, Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem held a news conference in Los Angeles. United States Senator Alex Padilla, a Democrat, accused Secretary Noem of "exaggerating and embellishing" and was forcibly removed from the news conference, and in the hallway, taken to the ground and handcuffed. This, despite identifying himself clearly and repeatedly. Photos, video and the full story here:


I've had at least one former news reporter who i look to for truth but as a view form the other side of the aisle who said:

Exaggeration. Padilla crashed a presser by Sec. Noem and appeared to be rushing the area where she was standing. Security hustled him out.




He didn't identify himself until after the security grabbed him. He wasn't violently attacked.
 
Wow this thread really is helping my personal mental health crisis right now... Many of the posters here are making the case as to why personal political opinions lead to flamewars and nothing good.

What many of you in this thread seem to be missing...

DISCUSSING THINGS THAT ARE POLITICAL IN NATURE IS NOT THE PROBLEM. IT IS MAKING THE POSTS ABOUT YOUR OWN IDEAOLOGIES AND NOT HOW THEY AFFECT BROADCASTING.

BUT SOME OF THE THINGS BEING DISCUSSED IN THIS THREAD ARE WAY OVER THE LINE.

There are some posts I will respond to in time and/or in private messages. But I need to focus on my mental health and the breakdown I had that somehow led to others, needs to take precedence.
 
There are some posts I will respond to in time and/or in private messages. But I need to focus on my mental health and the breakdown I had that somehow led to others, needs to take precedence.
Sometimes we all need to do that. When I had to clear my brain I take a ride somewhere or spend time working around the house. Reading a good book (the old school paper ones) helps me too. With the current political climate we all need extra help.

Hope you'll feel better soon. 🤗
 
Disney has been having "Gay Days" since 1991. Maybe you just didn't notice, or you saw them wearing red, and thought it meant something different.
I have not been to Disney attractions since I was teamed with George Lucas on the Radio Day inauguration of the Lost Ark attraction at Disneyland.

I was speaking of a family that is related to me, and which has conservative values based on their religious faith. I don't agree with all their tenets, but I thought this was a good example of how some people do find Disney politicized.

Please read my post again: I said there were some people who found Disney to be "outside" their personal values based on movies, TV productions, events and things like "terminology" at the venues. Making the observation does not make me biased in those areas.
 
I watched the live coverage on FOX News and the only point at which it was clear there was a disruption in the room was the Senator asking people to take their hands off him.



Interesting that you used the same word---"lunged"---that Noem's people used in their statement, despite the lack of any video of him actually lunging.

And there is a BIG difference between some guy, even an esteemed broadcaster such as yourself, interrupting a keynote at a private function and a United States Senator at a news conference.

By the way, Senator Padilla is the ranking member of the Senate Judiciary subcommittee on immigration, citizenship, and border safety, which has oversight of federal agencies with citizenship, asylum, refugee, and immigration enforcement responsibilities.

Interrupting prior to the Q&A is---maybe---poor form, but it's not wrestle you out into the hallway, give you a taste of the carpet and handcuff you stuff.



The statements from both offices are likely to be fascinating and diverse.

Also worthy of note, this is how Secretary Noem described ICE's mission in Los Angeles just prior to the scuffle:



If you're looking for the line between government and politics, with those two sentences, Secretary Noem is on the other side of it. Video here:

Dear ChatGPT: Can the federal government legally overthrow an elected state Government? That's exactly what's being threatened.
 


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