I thought The Kinks rocked too hard for what was essentially a soft AC.I'm still chuckling at the idea that "1900 Yesterday" might have been a bit too "rock" for a Beautiful Music station.
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I thought The Kinks rocked too hard for what was essentially a soft AC.I'm still chuckling at the idea that "1900 Yesterday" might have been a bit too "rock" for a Beautiful Music station.
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I knew this would come back to haunt me. I was basing my comments on my memory of singles I remember and I forgot about "Where You Lead" or thought it was later. Were these songs you mentioned actually rock leaning or like "101 Strings Plays the Beatles" with vocals?
Didn't she have an early album called, "My Name is Barbra."?
I thought The Kinks rocked too hard for what was essentially a soft AC.
An actual station, not a comic strip station.Someone wanna explain Doonesbury and comic strips to Chimp? I'm only one man.
An actual station, not a comic strip station.
Okay, well, I heard the Kinks on a real soft AC station.It was a joke, chimp. Part of a series of Mike Doonesbury (the guy in the final panel washing dishes) coming to terms with aging. Another in that week had him playing The Rolling Stones' "Satisfaction" for a younger guy and the guy saying:
"What....am I in an elevator here?"
(a reference to "elevator music")
Okay, well, I heard the Kinks on a real soft AC station.
I once read about a format change where a station switched to oldies and listeners were assured there wouldn't be anything worse than "Satisfaction:".
"1900 Yesterday" was also recorded by Barbara Acklin.For the uninitiated:
Even for Beautiful Music, that instrumental break is pretty darn mild. It absolutely got play at KBIG, KOST and KJOY in L.A. If other parts of the country had an issue, that's a really easy edit to make.
It was also HUGE on Southern California MOR stations (KMPC, KFI, KGIL), and the nascent Adult Contemporaries (KIIS-AM and KHJ-FM).
The wild story is Top 40 KHJ, where it peaked at #13, holding that peak for three weeks before dropping off the chart entirely in its eighth week.
Looking at ARSA, I can kind of hazard a guess as to what happened.
Liz Damon's Orient Express was a lounge band at the Hilton Hawaiian Village. They released an album and "1900 Yesterday" as the single from it on a local Hawaiian label.
Then---out of nowhere---White Whale Records---floundering after its only big act, The Turtles, stopped getting hits, does a deal to release "1900 Yesterday" on the mainland.
And the first mainland station to play it---was KHJ.
When Bill Drake vacationed, it was almost always Hawaii. I can't prove it, but I'm betting Drake heard the song on local radio (it was rocketing to #1 on every island station), caught Liz' act in the hotel bar, made a phone call, and boom.
Drake was a massive square. It would have been right up his alley. The second station in mainland America to play it was also Drake's--- KYNO in Fresno.
In those days, KHJ and KYNO could start a stampede by themselves, and a few big stations (KCBQ, KYA, KIMN, WCFL) were on the record within two weeks of KHJ, which had it to itself for a week before it went on KYNO.
Three weeks after KHJ, it was KJR and KLIF. Drake's own KFRC waited a month. KHJ's hometown rival, KRLA, waited until the week it peaked at KHJ to add it, and it looks like they were only on it for a week or two. After that, it was largely medium and small markets, some adding it as late as March of 1971 (KHJ added it the first week of December, 1970).
KHJ actually dumped the record two weeks before it peaked at #33 in Billboard. Very few stations saw it chart as high as KHJ did.
KHJ was drowning in MOR material the week "1900 Yesterday" peaked on the Boss 30... The Fifth Dimension's "One Less Bell To Answer" was #1, Tony Orlando and Dawn's "Knock Three Times" was #2, Gladys Knight and The Pips' "If I Were Your Woman" was #3, Barbra Streisand's "Stoney End" was #6, Lynn Anderson's "Rose Garden" was #7, Ray Price's "For The Good Times" was 11th, Perry Como's "It's Impossible" was 15th, and Gordon Lightfoot's "If You Could Read My Mind" was 19th.
Liz/Orienr Express's version was ultra-compressed for AM radio. That might have kept it off B/EZ
Someone wanna explain Doonesbury and comic strips to Chimp? I'm only one man.
Only if you explain Chimp to me in the first place. No one else's posts cause me to look at the screen at a weird angle.
I need to introduce you to TallGuy.
And KOST and KBIG were Shulke and Bonneville syndicated format stations. So if the LA stations played them, nearly 200 other Beautiful Music stations did, too.Yes. In L.A. there were actually five at that time. The other two were KWST (FM) and XETRA (AM). I couldn't tell you if those two played "1900 Yesterday" or not.
TallGuy does seem to learn from the responses to his posts, so I give him points for that!I need to introduce you to TallGuy.
After listening to this, I realize now that I didn't know Barbra recorded it! I only know Carole King's version.Like I said, Semoochie, Barbra did not retreat:
What I did not recall was that the arrangement, conducting and background vocals were the all-girl rock group Fanny, who were nobody's 101 Strings:
That was her fifth album. The sixth was "My Name is Barbra, Two..."
Were KBIG, KOST and KJOY Beautiful Music formatted stations?
Yes. In L.A. there were actually five at that time. The other two were KWST (FM) and XETRA (AM).
On the same label, White Whale Records, was the 1968-into 1969 #14 Billboard "Hot 100" hit "Lo Mucho Que Te Quiero (The More I Love You)" by Rene and Rene. My mom enjoyed this song and bought a copy of the single which I still have! Any BM/EZ formatted stations, or music service, takers on this one, either the original hit or a BM/EZ remake?For the uninitiated:
Even for Beautiful Music, that instrumental break is pretty darn mild. It absolutely got play at KBIG, KOST and KJOY in L.A. If other parts of the country had an issue, that's a really easy edit to make.
It was also HUGE on Southern California MOR stations (KMPC, KFI, KGIL), and the nascent Adult Contemporaries (KIIS-AM and KHJ-FM).
The wild story is Top 40 KHJ, where it peaked at #13, holding that peak for three weeks before dropping off the chart entirely in its eighth week.
Looking at ARSA, I can kind of hazard a guess as to what happened.
Liz Damon's Orient Express was a lounge band at the Hilton Hawaiian Village. They released an album and "1900 Yesterday" as the single from it on a local Hawaiian label.
Then---out of nowhere---White Whale Records---floundering after its only big act, The Turtles, stopped getting hits, does a deal to release "1900 Yesterday" on the mainland.
And the first mainland station to play it---was KHJ.
When Bill Drake vacationed, it was almost always Hawaii. I can't prove it, but I'm betting Drake heard the song on local radio (it was rocketing to #1 on every island station), caught Liz' act in the hotel bar, made a phone call, and boom.
Drake was a massive square. It would have been right up his alley. The second station in mainland America to play it was also Drake's--- KYNO in Fresno.
In those days, KHJ and KYNO could start a stampede by themselves, and a few big stations (KCBQ, KYA, KIMN, WCFL) were on the record within two weeks of KHJ, which had it to itself for a week before it went on KYNO.
Three weeks after KHJ, it was KJR and KLIF. Drake's own KFRC waited a month. KHJ's hometown rival, KRLA, waited until the week it peaked at KHJ to add it, and it looks like they were only on it for a week or two. After that, it was largely medium and small markets, some adding it as late as March of 1971 (KHJ added it the first week of December, 1970).
KHJ actually dumped the record two weeks before it peaked at #33 in Billboard. Very few stations saw it chart as high as KHJ did.
KHJ was drowning in MOR material the week "1900 Yesterday" peaked on the Boss 30... The Fifth Dimension's "One Less Bell To Answer" was #1, Tony Orlando and Dawn's "Knock Three Times" was #2, Gladys Knight and The Pips' "If I Were Your Woman" was #3, Barbra Streisand's "Stoney End" was #6, Lynn Anderson's "Rose Garden" was #7, Ray Price's "For The Good Times" was 11th, Perry Como's "It's Impossible" was 15th, and Gordon Lightfoot's "If You Could Read My Mind" was 19th.
Six, Mike. You left out KPSA, which was acquired by a subsidiary company of the airline from the Biola Bible Institute in 1971.
And John, it was KJOI, not KJOY.
On the same label, White Whale Records, was the 1968-into 1969 #14 Billboard "Hot 100" hit "Lo Mucho Que Te Quiero (The More I Love You)" by Rene and Rene. My mom enjoyed this song and bought a copy of the single which I still have! Any BM/EZ formatted stations, or music service, takers on this one, either the original hit or a BM/EZ remake?
I llke how they sing the song in Spanish, and then, in English. The B-side, "Mornin'" is good too.