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Overcomer Ministry ending radio broadcasts

Gene Scott is kind of like the reason broadcasts are still syndicated of J. Vernon McGee's Through the Bible (died 1988) and Adrian Rogers' Love Worth Finding (died 2005). They taught Scripture to the radio audience with personal tidbits, but not this kooky end-of-world stuff.
I would consider the late Brother Stair and Harold Camping to be false prophets...the Bible tells us about false preaching in Matthew 7. Harold thought the end of the world was going to happen in 2011. Yet, only God knows the final date, when Jesus is coming back (Revelation)... completely false teaching and lies from these 'preachers'.

I'm curious - is Brother Stair still being aired late at night on WCKY 1530? So strange to have NBA talk one minute, and a crazy, screaming preacher the next at 3 in the morning...
I haven't been up to check. I can remember years ago falling asleep to WCKY when it was WSAI running the Adult Standards format (which was slowly transitioning to "oldies" before the Real Oldies format debuted. I woke up to this guy screaming at me not to celebrate Christmas.
 
They are likely running out of money. With Stair having been dead for over four years now, and the world having not come to an end, perhaps people are bailing from all that nonsense.
It took them long enough. I did some more research on Stair's claims yesterday, and discovered he had been prophesizing that the world would end six months after his death, not several years as I originally believed. (I also learned he had long been prophesizing the exact means of his death, too -- being summoned to Rome, where the Pope would have him beheaded. :unsure: :ROFLMAO:)

Yet we had WBCQ asking for $500k in donations a few years ago to keep things going (the pay reportedly only got $5k)
Interesting how it's still going despite having fallen $495k short. Did he find the world's most patient bill collectors?

You can push your message far and wide on shortwave, but who is listening other than a handful of hardcore SW hobbyists? Is that the way to reach a wide audience?
Well, with one's long-term mindset so laser-focused on a Papal beheading, I guess the intricacies of cumes, shares, and demographics are probably going to be somewhere on your mental back burner.

Besides he still has the income from the flat earthers leasing the 500kw transmitter.
I've actually heard Stair on that transmitter (9330 kHz) in recent times. I wonder if his ministry was buying the flat earthers' time back from them, or if they have just been cutting back, with the ministry pouncing on the freed-up airtime opportunistically.

WTWW was wanting to run Overcomer on one transmitter 24/7, but that won’t happen now. Very little programming on the remaining operational transmitter. Perhaps it is time to close the station…again.
I'd have to agree there. And as far as WWCR, I am hoping it will manage on two fully booked transmitters. I like listening to Reviewbrah sometimes.
 
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Well, I'll be! Thanks for finding that.

Were the most extreme of those curves in the 9100 used for actual mediumwave broadcasting? Or were curves like the "green" option only meant for HF stations using 9100s post-9105 manufacturing EOL? I ask because many old school, 10 kHz-wide AM receivers would have remained in use during the 9100's heyday, and that amount of emphasis coming out of a listener's Carver may as well have fried their ears.
 
It took them long enough. I did some more research on Stair's claims yesterday, and discovered he had been prophesizing that the world would end six months after his death, not several years as I originally believed. (I also learned he had long been prophesizing the exact means of his death, too -- being summoned to Rome, where the Pope would have him beheaded. :unsure: :ROFLMAO:)


Interesting how it's still going despite having fallen $495k short. Did he find the world's most patient bill collectors?


Well, with one's long-term mindset so laser-focused on a Papal beheading, I guess the intricacies of cumes, shares, and demographics are probably going to be somewhere on your mental back burner.


I've actually heard Stair on that transmitter (9330 kHz) in recent times. I wonder if his ministry was buying the flat earthers' time back from them, or if they have just been cutting back, with the ministry pouncing on the freed-up airtime opportunistically.


I'd have to agree there. And as far as WWCR, I am hoping it will manage on two fully booked transmitters. I like listening to Reviewbrah sometimes.

I’ve never ever heard stair on 9330, he’s not listed there at all on eibi or wbcq’s own schedule , but he’s on 7490 and 6160. 9330 is only WLC stuff
 
Before WLC WBCQ did use 9330 on one of their regular transmitters, which at one point ran Overcomer.
right, back when it was only 50kw, not the 500kw it is today
 
Before WLC WBCQ did use 9330 on one of their regular transmitters, which at one point ran Overcomer.
right, back when it was only 50kw, not the 500kw it is today
Reception of the “50kw” transmitter on 9330 was quite decent some years ago. IIRC they were running AM compatible SSB.

Outside the current 500kw transmitter, I strongly doubt any of the other WBCQ transmitters are putting out anything near 50kw. Reception on 3265, 5130, 6160 and 7490 here in Houston ranges from poor to nonexistent, so IMHO those transmitters are only running a fraction of their stated power. All of them are pretty much museum pieces; I think one unit goes back to 1955.
 
Reception of the “50kw” transmitter on 9330 was quite decent some years ago. IIRC they were running AM compatible SSB.

Outside the current 500kw transmitter, I strongly doubt any of the other WBCQ transmitters are putting out anything near 50kw. Reception on 3265, 5130, 6160 and 7490 here in Houston ranges from poor to nonexistent, so IMHO those transmitters are only running a fraction of their stated power. All of them are pretty much museum pieces; I think one unit goes back to 1955.

i think thecoverage is because of the patter, not power, in your case
 
i think thecoverage is because of the patter, not power, in your case
The 50kw WBCQ beams from Maine are listed as 245 degrees, which would take them diagonally over the U.S. Should provide a decent signal, which they did in the past.

If you've seen pictures of the WBCQ transmitters they appear rather ratty and outdated. I strongly suspect they are doing well to get only a small amount of power out of them. Antenna system isn't the greatest, either.
 
The biggest inexplicability I keep noticing with the broadcasts of Stair's "classics" is his people's apparent unwillingness to exclude or edit embarrassingly dated material. Almost every other time my receiver stops on a shortwave signal running his old tapes, Stair is lamenting a "current event," like the collapse of Lehman Brothers, followed by warning all his listeners they have just months to evacuate the cities before everything goes Mad Max. It's real pie-in-the-face stuff. Even people who would otherwise continue following him -- the way others keep following Gene Scott -- aren't going to remain donors for long with repeated doses of cringe like that. To say nothing of what new listeners would think. "Is this radio station broken?"
The lack of editing doesn't surprise me. That would take hundreds of man hours, and one would have to have a DAW to do it correctly, and then you'd have the issue of making them fit a broadcast schedule time-wise, if you wanted to do it right.

Still, why hasn't the replacement leader done more sermons on the air? Looks like when Stair died, the actual theology of the religious sect went away with him. Which happens with some religious sects that rely mostly on one spiritual leader. Herbert W. Armstrong being one prominent one from the past, who relied a lot on radio. Not soo long after he died, his church split up.

1970's radio preacher RW Schambach, who -- if memory serves -- referred to him as some sort of last-days prophet -- still appears on some stations, and he talks about godless communism a lot, the few recent times I have heard his shows.
 
Were the most extreme of those curves in the 9100 used for actual mediumwave broadcasting? Or were curves like the "green" option only meant for HF stations using 9100s post-9105 manufacturing EOL? I ask because many old school, 10 kHz-wide AM receivers would have remained in use during the 9100's heyday, and that amount of emphasis coming out of a listener's Carver may as well have fried their ears.
The Carver TX-11a and other early wideband AM Stereo receivers were designed with the optimism that mass adoption of wideband receivers would make the use of high-end boost in AM broadcasts unnecessary. The NRSC mask and recommendation of the NRSC curve (even though it was only mandatory for AM Stereo stations) helped to tame down the excessive amount of treble boost that many AM stations were using in the '70s and '80s, which was causing lots of sideband splatter and leading receiver manufacturers to further narrow their AM bandwidths to try to minimize the interference.
 
The lack of editing doesn't surprise me. That would take hundreds of man hours, and one would have to have a DAW to do it correctly, and then you'd have the issue of making them fit a broadcast schedule time-wise, if you wanted to do it right.

Still, why hasn't the replacement leader done more sermons on the air? Looks like when Stair died, the actual theology of the religious sect went away with him. Which happens with some religious sects that rely mostly on one spiritual leader. Herbert W. Armstrong being one prominent one from the past, who relied a lot on radio. Not soo long after he died, his church split up.

1970's radio preacher RW Schambach, who -- if memory serves -- referred to him as some sort of last-days prophet -- still appears on some stations, and he talks about godless communism a lot, the few recent times I have heard his shows.
RW Shambach is a name I haven't heard in decades. He was screaming on WJYM, Bowling Green, Ohio after Jimmy Swaggart took over, but years before it became "all Jimmy all the time". They also carried Oliver B. Green, who died in 1979, and is still heard on many stations.

I haven't heard for myself but have been told that there are episodes of J. Vernon McGee's "Through the Bible" referring to President Nixon in the present tense.

I've been somewhat fascinated by the Armstrongs (Herbert W. and Garner Ted) though not a believer in their doctrine. Herbert practically started the business of media preaching in the 30s. Garner Ted sounded like a news commentator, not a preacher. Nothing could freak out a kid more than Garner Ted coming in on a distant 50kW station talking in graphic terms about nuclear holocaust). about Garner Ted was kicked out and H.W. took the show back while GT started his own offshoot church and show. Once H.W. passed a couple of other speakers were brought in, but eventually the Worldwide Church of God became a more standard Evangelical denomination. Offshoots continue Armstrong's media ministry and doctrines, probably the most known is Gerald Flurry, (The Key of David), who owns the copyrights on the elder Armstrongs' books.

All interesting stuff.
 
The Carver TX-11a and other early wideband AM Stereo receivers were designed with the optimism that mass adoption of wideband receivers would make the use of high-end boost in AM broadcasts unnecessary. The NRSC mask and recommendation of the NRSC curve (even though it was only mandatory for AM Stereo stations) helped to tame down the excessive amount of treble boost that many AM stations were using in the '70s and '80s, which was causing lots of sideband splatter and leading receiver manufacturers to further narrow their AM bandwidths to try to minimize the interference.
Such a shame that optimism didn't pan out. An audiophile friend of mine used to own that receiver and send me occasional demonstration recordings from it. Wonderful tuner.

Incidentally, from the Wayback Machine, some very vintage technical literature on the Optimod 9100B and Optimod 9105A processors:

https://web.archive.org/web/19971009090702/http://www.orban.com/radio/9100B.html
https://web.archive.org/web/19980624234417/http://www.orban.com/radio/9105A.html

In particular, the Hilbert transform clipper in the 9105 is extolled as offering the "highest possible amplitude modulation," "producing loudness equivalent to an RF clipper." Which of course makes sense, since a Hilbert transform simply allows one to modulate baseband audio up to RF frequencies without producing a lower sideband, so it can be clipped way up there and brought back down to baseband, yielding a nicely bricked waveform minus the gobs of harmonic distortion heavy simple clipping would produce.
 
The next episode seems to be about Wall Street buying into shortwave and I'm thinking "what?" . I'm sure it'll be more clear once I hear the episode
Most likely the episode will deal with stock market datacasting services, which use direct shortwave transmission of digital market information in order to reduce the lag times present with other forms of distribution. Even a few milliseconds can make a major difference for automated trading programs that rely on up to the moment information.

The FCC has yet to finalize rules for such datacasting services, though many are already on the air under experimental authorizations. Such signals can cover 50 to 60 kHz of bandwidth, and have a “buzzwhine” sound when received on a regular shortwave receiver. If you switch to SSB mode and very slowly tune through the signal you will hear multiple streams of digital data being modulated across the signal range.

I’ve heard a few of these stations, which are usually on the air during normal Wall Street trading hours. 14 to 18 MHz seems to be the range most likely to contain such transmissions, though I’ve seen reports of them operating elsewhere on the HF spectrum.
 


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