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Broadcast network coverage of Iran bombing

The president is criticizing TV coverage of the Iran bombing. He didn't like that they questioned whether the sites hit were completely destroyed.

www.foxnews.com

Trump thrashes CNN as ‘gutless losers’ for coverage of US strikes on Iran

President Trump trashed CNN as "gutless losers" and said MSNBC was run by a "disgrace" in angry remarks about Iran coverage at the White House on Tuesday.
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The fact is we don't know if they were destroyed. Most of the sites were underground, so the satellite pictures don't really tell the story.
 
TheBigA said:
The president is criticizing TV coverage of the Iran bombing. He didn't like that they questioned whether the sites hit were completely destroyed
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I’m guessing he didn’t watch the Sunday morning broadcast network news show (Meet The Press, Face The Nation) where administration officials appearing were less over the top about the success of the mission than the President’s statements on Saturday.
 
Let's face it. Part of his raison d'être is criticizing the media. We can never do anything to his satisfaction for more than about five seconds.

If I could give advice to all the broadcast news organizations out there, it would be "don't even try to make him happy." Better to report the facts and not be worried about what he thinks. It's been proven that much of his threatening posture against broadcast journalism is bluster, and the ABC News "settlement" fiasco has proven he cannot be placated.

Besides, any POTUS who openly calls reporters and their questions "nasty" lacks the dignity that is supposed to accompany that office.
 
K.M. Richards said:
Besides, any POTUS who openly calls reporters and their questions "nasty" lacks the dignity that is supposed to accompany that office.
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Nor the intelligence to formulate a reasoned, substantive response. Pure laziness and ignorance to simply attack questions one doesn’t like. Which is pretty much anything that does not slobber all over him.

The buck stops here? Long gone.
 
The administration is blaming CNN, but the story came from the administration's own intelligence staff. Other independent news organizations are reporting the same story. So it's more than just CNN.

www.nbcnews.com

Strikes on Iran set back its nuclear program only several months, sources say

The initial assessment would appear to contradict Trump's and Netanyahu's claims the U.S. attack "obliterated" Iran's nuclear capabilities.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

It sounds like we have a 6 year old as the press secretary, calling news organizations "losers" rather than actually showing verified proof that the sites have been destroyed. You're not going to prove anything with satellite photographs, because the real sites are deep underground.

The government has a credibility problem. They're not going to solve it by calling the press childish names. They need to prove that they're right. Otherwise this story goes in the same pile with the president who claimed Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.
 
TheBigA said:
It sounds like we have a 6 year old as the press secretary, calling news organizations "losers" rather than actually showing verified proof that the sites have been destroyed.
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Drawing on my own experience, she seems to have the intellect of a six-year-old.
 
The president today seemed to pull back from his initial statement about "obliteration."

"The original word that I used — I guess it got us in trouble, because it's a strong word — it was 'obliteration.' And you'll see that — and it's going to come out. Israel is doing a report on it, I understand. And I was told that they said it was total obliteration," Trump said.
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So does the press secretary apologize for attacking CNN? As we said, the CNN story, which was attributed to US intelligence, was correct. The story has since been reported that way by almost every news service. Now it seems the president wants to believe Israel rather than the US intelligence.

This is the journalistic problem I mentioned earlier. When you don't have actual reporters on the scene who can verify information, you only have the government's side of the story. Who was the guy who said "trust but verify?" Oh yeah, Reagan. People talk about "biased" reporting. But reporting is based on sources. If the sources say one thing, and the government says another, what do you report? In my view, the correct way to report it is to present all sides with attribution. That's what the media is doing.
 
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TheBigA said:
The president today seemed to pull back from his initial statement about "obliteration."



So does the press secretary apologize for attacking CNN? As we said, the CNN story, which was attributed to US intelligence, was correct. The story has since been reported that way by almost every news service. Now it seems the president wants to believe Israel rather than the US intelligence.

This is the journalistic problem I mentioned earlier. When you don't have actual reporters on the scene who can verify information, you only have the government's side of the story. Who was the guy who said "trust but verify?" Oh yeah, Reagan.
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Their obvious goal is to discredit the news media no matter what. They don’t want the truth to get out there.
 
thedesk.net

Fox News ratings soar during coverage of U.S. strikes on Iran

Fox News Channel delivered dominant ratings across television during its coverage of the U.S. military strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities last Saturday.
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Here is an update on the current ratings for the Iran Strikes. Yes the big one is Fox News Channel gets the top spot for that one.

Fox News outpaced every major broadcast network. By comparison, ABC News drew 2.8 million total viewers, NBCNews had 2 million total viewers and CBS had 1.6 million total viewers during the coverage block.

Viewership on Fox News peaked between 10:00–10:15 PM ET during former President Donald Trump’s address, when Fox News drew 7.5 million total viewers and 1.6 million in the demo. For the full hour from 10 to 11 PM ET, the network averaged 5.9 million viewers and 1.1 million in the 25-54 demo.
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Don’t like the message, blame the messenger. Truth be damned. It was the approach the first time and this is a sequel that amps up the baseless attacks on whatever media outlets irk them that day. It’s not a serious or credible press office/operation. A key problem still rests in how rare this situation is, with an outlet (or outlets) publishing something other than the administration’s narrative. There was more of that in the first administration, but thus far, we’ve seen less willingness to buck the official line. It remains to be seen if this is more than an isolated scenario given the info came from “inside the house” so to speak.
 
AbrahamJSimpson said:
It’s not a serious or credible press office/operation.
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The thing about this president is he'll throw them under the bus as much as he'll attack the other media. No one is safe with this president. He says and does things on HIS schedule, not theirs. The media is learning that, so her "press briefings" don't necessarily represent what he's thinking or doing. So far he's been pretty accessible. His answers tend to be more honest than hers.
 
The thing is his word salad is nonsensical gibberish. He equivocates, lies and spews utterly irrelevant strings of words punctuated with the occasional attack. Honest? When? The press secretary and broader communications team lie with a certain efficiency and directness. He either fails to address a question, lies as part of a rambling, incoherent tangent, or equivocates into a non-answer. Maybe a little from all three at once.

Accessible….ok, he rambles on with a list of grievances fit for Festivus from his desk in Liberace’s bedroom….er, the Oval Office, or on the plane on the way to and from his golf excursions. Or he rage Tweets at 2 am and somehow thinks that qualifies as actual policy. Sure. Accessible, though not intelligible.

And agreed he’ll throw anyone and everyone under the bus at some point. Nothing new there. But let’s also be honest, the track record indicates the pretty, younger females are less prone to become bus fodder.
 
AbrahamJSimpson said:
He either fails to address a question, lies as part of a rambling, incoherent tangent, or equivocates into a non-answer. Maybe a little from all three at once.
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Because he doesn't know. That's why it's important for journalists to keep digging. That's what they're doing. The way they augment their coverage is by interviewing all of the retired military people who know more about nuclear programs than the president. That's where you get the "depth" that we were talking about earlier in the thread. There was a time when people had access to these Iranian sites, when they could see with their own eyes what was being done. Those people are now retired and can take the information being presented and interpret it so we get a better picture of what the real situation is.

In the meantime, this is what you get from Fox News:

www.foxnews.com

Trump, Hegseth seethe at 'fake news' media for doubting US strikes obliterated Iranian nuclear sites: 'Scum'

President Donald Trump reads assessment from Israel's Atomic Energy Commission at NATO press conference confirming U.S. military action 'devastated' nuclear facilities.
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Are we simply going to accept what Israel says as thought they're unbiased? The job of the media is to present ALL of it. The good and the bad, and let people decide. What's wrong with that?
 
TheBigA said:
Because he doesn't know. That's why it's important for journalists to keep digging. That's what they're doing. The way they augment their coverage is by interviewing all of the retired military people who know more about nuclear programs than the president. That's where you get the "depth" that we were talking about earlier in the thread. There was a time when people had access to these Iranian sites, when they could see with their own eyes what was being done. Those people are now retired and can take the information being presented and interpret it so we get a better picture of what the real situation is.

In the meantime, this is what you get from Fox News:

www.foxnews.com

Trump, Hegseth seethe at 'fake news' media for doubting US strikes obliterated Iranian nuclear sites: 'Scum'

President Donald Trump reads assessment from Israel's Atomic Energy Commission at NATO press conference confirming U.S. military action 'devastated' nuclear facilities.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

Are we simply going to accept what Israel says as thought they're unbiased? The job of the media is to present ALL of it. The good and the bad, and let people decide. What's wrong with that?
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Per Jamie Dupree, (former Cox Washington bureau chief, now independent), shared the White House press release stating Iran's nuclear facilities were obliterated and anyone saying otherwise is fake news. The administration is doubling, tripling and quadrupling online that anyone doubting or questioning Trump on this point is out of line.
 


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