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Court reaffirms CPB's independence

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umfan said:
I really don't think that will happen, but I guess a few stations might close up shop. In the current environment, stations regularly are being taken off the air. I feel for all employees that are affected, but regard the recission action as appropriate.
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yeah, youre talking to someone who will be affected and our communities. I'll eventually lose my job in about 2-3 years if funding cant be replaced and 1200 people across a wide swath of the interior will have zero local media and zero sources of local information.

Most people who are for this have never lived in a place like this and have no understanding of life up here.

Give me your name and address, ill mail you back the $3 in taxes you paid to the CPB, out of my own pocket
 
SomeRadioGuy said:
Most people who are for this have never lived in a place like this and have no understanding of life up here.
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That's pretty this in a nutshell. I know about your job because you've been extremely transparent on Facebook and on here.

This killing off of the CPB by a supple, pliable political party is the exact opposite and being done with as little transparency as possible because it is nothing more than a political hit job led by one individual.
 
Nathan Obral said:
That's pretty this in a nutshell. I know about your job because you've been extremely transparent on Facebook and on here.

This killing off of the CPB by a supple, pliable political party is the exact opposite and being done with as little transparency as possible because it is nothing more than a political hit job led by one individual.
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One of our political critters, Begich... even voted for the recision and everything he said was spoken like someone whos never lived in the bush or spent ANY considerable time.

Cell phones? 2g service in some villages, NO service in quite a few villages.
Internet? Kinda. Some don't have it-cost reasons, some dont want it, a smartphone or a computer

But guess what EVERYONE out here does have? :)
 
I said this bill is unpopular. Here's a new poll on public radio:

barrettmedia.com

66% of Americans Support Funding NPR, New Poll Shows

The support isn't limited to only one side of the political aisle.
barrettmedia.com barrettmedia.com

www.insideradio.com

New Poll Finds Bipartisan Support for Federal Public Radio Funding.

A new Harris Poll conducted for NPR reveals strong bipartisan support for public radio, with two-thirds of Americans backing federal funding and viewing it as a good value. The survey
www.insideradio.com www.insideradio.com

As I said, it doesn't matter what the polls say. This vote is about appealing to one guy. He's the only one that matters in this.

Truthfully, the defunding won't just hurt public radio. It hurts non-commercial music radio. Ultimately it will affect commercial radio.
 
TheBigA said:
I said this bill is unpopular. Here's a new poll on public radio:

barrettmedia.com

66% of Americans Support Funding NPR, New Poll Shows

The support isn't limited to only one side of the political aisle.
barrettmedia.com barrettmedia.com

As I said, it doesn't matter what the polls say. This vote is about appealing to one guy. He's the only one that matters in this.
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and there have been government critters whove changed their vote/stance simply to appears that one guy, esp. after threats he made to republicans who don't support the rescission
 
TheBigA said:
As I said, it doesn't matter what the polls say. This vote is about appealing to one guy. He's the only one that matters in this.
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SomeRadioGuy said:
and there have been government critters whove changed their vote/stance simply to appears that one guy, esp. after threats he made to republicans who don't support the rescission
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Without saying anything about what almost happened a year ago (which would get me into real trouble here) I do not think things are going to end well for this administration.

Sooner or later, Mr. "Perfect Genius", who acts entirely based on how he alone feels, will do something that seriously and severely affects a large percentage of his base. At that point, it becomes "watch your back" time.

The good thing is, if the current administration crashes and burns soon enough, there is always a strong possibility -- especially given those poll numbers BigA linked to -- that funding can be restored before too much damage to public broadcasting occurs.
 
K.M. Richards said:
The good thing is, if the current administration crashes and burns soon enough, there is always a strong possibility -- especially given those poll numbers BigA linked to -- that funding can be restored before too much damage to public broadcasting occurs.
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It depends on what happens after the vote. It's really hard to recreate something after it's been shut down. It isn't just the money. It's the people.

KQED just announced 15% layoffs in San Francisco. This is the #1 radio station in town. So it will have an effect regardless of the market.

What we've seen on the commercial side is that once layoffs happen, and the people are gone, the budgets adjust to the new staffing, and people just move on. But things won't be as they once were. Listeners won't have more money in their pockets. They'll just hear less local content on the radio and maybe wonder why.
 
TheBigA said:
What we've seen on the commercial side is that once layoffs happen, and the people are gone, the budgets adjust to the new staffing, and people just move on. But things won't be as they once were. Listeners won't have more money in their pockets. They'll just hear less local content on the radio and maybe wonder why.
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Then maybe we need to do a better job of educating those listeners. In the excellent example of KQED, I could imagine a campaign about "remember when we used to have ...?" and then explaining how the cutbacks happen.

Last time I checked, it was still okay for non-commercial stations to suggest that listeners write their elected officials.
 
K.M. Richards said:
You can keep my $3, Paul, with my thanks for doing what you do in a part of the country that depends on you.
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People who dont bother to get to know me and just spout off vitriol and dont take 5 minutes to understand have no clue what life is like up here and what radio means. I've been called various things by people online and accused of various things by those same people simply because of where I work.. If they'd gotten to know me, theyd know I simply care about local radio and bust my ass doing so. The republicans who i AM Friends with who are more reasonable can even admit to the fact while they may not care for NPR, they know me and they know what I'm doing and they know I'm about the best guy to be in a position at a station liek this.

Thanks for your kind words, KM
 
vchimpanzee said:
I suppose there are some good points here (other news sources), but I think this man has the wrong idea about biased coverage.
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Fact check: They DON'T siphon off a half billion a year in taxpayer subsidies. That's absolutely false. NPR receives between 6 & 8 million a year.

I'm starting to get tired of reading all these articles that say all of this money goes to NPR & PBS. It doesn't.

Here's how much money goes to North Carolina. The state gets more than NPR:


Grants and Allocations: North Carolina | CPB

cpb.org cpb.org
 
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Here's the status in the senate as of Wednesday night:

www.nbcnews.com

GOP-led Senate votes to cancel $9 billion in funding for foreign aid, NPR and PBS

The spending cuts package, requested by the White House, heads back to the House ahead of a Friday deadline for Trump to sign it into law.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

Add Thom Tillis and Roger Wicker to the list of senators who are unhappy that they're voting on a bill with no specifics. Wicker says this is like giving the white house a blank check. They have been told they're defunding NPR and PBS. It's also what some media is reporting. But in fact that's not true.

The question nobody is asking is what happens to CPB after it gets completely defunded. How does it pay its rent and staff? Nobody has asked that question. This bill is a complete defund. CPB has no other source of revenue. Its charter says it can't raise funds in other ways. This is it. Once the federal money goes away, you have an agency that was created by congress that has no funding. What happens there? Anyone know? They have until Friday to figure it out.
 
According to NPR, the Senate passed the Rescissions bill early this morning 51-48. Because the Senate made some changes, most notably the removal of the international AIDS money from the rescissions, the bill will now go back to the U.S. House of Representatives for a final vote. If the House passes the changed Senate bill (and I think it is very likely), then we will likely see the CPB lose its existance over the weekend.

I want to make two points here. First, while the reasons given by the Republican Party and some on this Board were financial, those were not the reasons President Trump cited. As TheBigA has noted on this and other threads on this topic, Trump has maintained that the public broadcaster has been biased against him and that was why the funding needed to be cut. I will note here that one of the network's morning show hosts did an interview with Mr. Trump shortly after he left the White House in 2020 and challenged the then-former President on his assertions that Joe Biden had won the Presidential race fraudulently. Trump literally hung up the phone instead of responding to the question.

But I suspect that Mr. Trump's attacks against the public radio network are even more visceral than that. One of Mr. Trump's goals since becoming President again has been to delete DEI--diversity, equity, and inclusion. The hosts for the NPR shows is a very diverse mix. Elsa Chang, one of the hosts of "All Things Considered," is Asian-american; one of her female counterparts is African-american; and a third host, Ari Shapiro, is a homosexual. (I should note that the latter stated that publicly two years ago, if memory serves.) The network and its hosts represent everything Mr. Trump abhores about DEI.

The final point I will make is, as both The BigA and SomeRadioGuy have pointed out, while the CPB will be no more and many public radio stations will go off of the air, it isn't going to happen overnight, and it is most likely that NPR will survive, though scaled back in terms of the number of reporters it has and the number of stations that it will serve.

The thing is, Mr. Trump is impatient--he wants NPR gone now! What I think he's going to do towards making that a reality will be to put financial and political pressure (I'm hoping not troops) on the corporations who sponsor both the network and local stations. I would like this effort to be unsuccessful but we'll just have to wait and see.
 
SomeRadioGuy said:
yeah, youre talking to someone who will be affected and our communities. I'll eventually lose my job in about 2-3 years if funding cant be replaced and 1200 people across a wide swath of the interior will have zero local media and zero sources of local information.

Most people who are for this have never lived in a place like this and have no understanding of life up here.

Give me your name and address, ill mail you back the $3 in taxes you paid to the CPB, out of my own pocket
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I have lived in rural Alaska. Not once did I have to use a CPB funded media asset to get news, information or entertainment. Very sorry you'll be affected. Hopefully those who value the station and regard it as a benefit back that up with contributions, which will be tax deductible to those that itemize.

You can keep the $3.
 
TheBigA said:
Here's the status in the senate as of Wednesday night:

www.nbcnews.com

GOP-led Senate votes to cancel $9 billion in funding for foreign aid, NPR and PBS

The spending cuts package, requested by the White House, heads back to the House ahead of a Friday deadline for Trump to sign it into law.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

Add Thom Tillis and Roger Wicker to the list of senators who are unhappy that they're voting on a bill with no specifics. Wicker says this is like giving the white house a blank check. They have been told they're defunding NPR and PBS. It's also what some media is reporting. But in fact that's not true.

The question nobody is asking is what happens to CPB after it gets completely defunded. How does it pay its rent and staff? Nobody has asked that question. This bill is a complete defund. CPB has no other source of revenue. Its charter says it can't raise funds in other ways. This is it. Once the federal money goes away, you have an agency that was created by congress that has no funding. What happens there? Anyone know? They have until Friday to figure it out.
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They clearly weren't unhappy enough to vote no.

Clearly, Thune did have the votes.
 
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