This is probably one of my favorite stations of all time. Music is perfect and it's live and local a lot. The thing that irritates me to no end is that translator in Winchester that also operates on 102.9. Signal is fine in Lexington other than constant switching back and forth. WPBK has a great signal that I've picked up easily well past what it's rated for. So let's slap a 250 translator on the frequency that was there first. Makes sense.
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- Thread starter toddalcorn
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So, you are upset a translator is interfering with your favorite station that you can hear 'well past what it's rated for'.
The FCC does not license any radio signal that interferes with any other licensed signal. The FCC has spacing rules and no station can encroach on a station's primary signal. The fact is at your location the station you love is not protected where you are because it is beyond the station's primary signal.
The worst part is this translator make reception of WPBK less of a happy experience it once was.
The FCC does not license any radio signal that interferes with any other licensed signal. The FCC has spacing rules and no station can encroach on a station's primary signal. The fact is at your location the station you love is not protected where you are because it is beyond the station's primary signal.
The worst part is this translator make reception of WPBK less of a happy experience it once was.
I don't think I've ever seen a tradio show post handwritten lists of items. I can barely read some of the writing. Why not type them so it can be clear?
www.wpbkfm.com
General Store Direct Call in line: 606-365-9990
WPBK FM - 102.9 Lincoln County's Radio Station. Our company, LGBC Media Corporation, began broadcasting in Lincoln County in 1961. It began with the partnership of W.G. Morgan, Ray Doss, S.C. Bybee and Lanier Burchett and the building of WRSL on 1520 kHz.
Well suppose to and actually can be different.
The FCC issueed a construction permit for WYYZ's translator W273CT that interfered with WPZE's (60 coverage). WPZE made them move towers significantly negatively affecting Gorilla's coverage of the target demographic. WLJA forced WJZA' s W266BW to put a deep null that really affected their coverage north of 285. The "spacing requirements" don't really exist for translators like Class A, B ,or C (real) stations. A translor can "accept" interference but not cause it.
Yes I am upset. I'd say a lot of people are upset with translators. I have a very good tuner and they have a very good transmitter. So the signal reaches well beyond what it's rated for. What's the problem in that? The translator is ridiculous. I guarantee you that the AM half of the system well outperforms the FM. Another issue is one in Elizabethtown at 92.9. The interference it creates to a signal from Lexington is another example where these things need done away with. Funny part as when I travel west which is away from Lexington, the country outlet is receivable again. So you understood that I have gone through the signal range of the translator and regained the original signal from Lexington. WPBK should get every mile for what it's equipment is capable of.
Stations don't see geting every mile as a requirement. They want to reach their local area where their income comes from. My point on translators is that FCC rules are in place and they're here to stay. In fact, the time may come when they become primary verus their current secondary service.
WPBK is a class A. I don't know your location but it sounds like you might be in their 40 db. If you are in their 40 contact them, they might complain to the FCC. I doubt it. They don't sell ads aimed at Lexington. If you aren't in the "40" then there is not much anyone can do.
But if you're also going to be posting them online, why not just type them as you take the calls rather than scribble on a piece of paper?
You need to be in the spot of being the only air talent in the room running the show. Typing it in is just too time consuming. Handwriting you can jump back and forth like most callers and add little things before he next caller. Try typing on the keyboard what you are not saying on the air.
I wonder if Word (or your favorite product from someone else) could make a transcript. You should be able to "see" every thing on the screen. Then after or during the show, cut and paste and save to the station's website or app.
I agree with b-turner, typing while on air could be terrifying I tried. I could just imagine someone saying something in appropriate and missing it because I wasn't paying attention.
I agree with b-turner, typing while on air could be terrifying I tried. I could just imagine someone saying something in appropriate and missing it because I wasn't paying attention.
There is one county between myself and WPBK and I am regularly getting interference from a translator four counties away. This is exactly why radio is in the shape it's in. BTW, the main for the translator on AM is like a local. The only use I can see is for night use. So I guess it's ok to have your signal trampled on just because the signal over performs.
I have been, I can type faster than I can write though. Also they could type them out after the tradio show at some point. Not every listener can read that scribbled writing.
toddalcorn, your words are atypical of many. Quit telling us and tell the FCC. They are the only ones that can do something. And keep writing.
Talked with a station owner that had his night signal wiped out by a Cuban station. He asked the FCC for help. The next day he wro the same letter again. After 5 years of writing daily they did do something about it. Contact the station you like and want to hear. Chances are they are not going to do the complaint thing because it takes plenty of time and attorney fees they might recover if they sue the offending station supposing the FCC sides wih them.
With you not being in Lincoln County, you are not buying from the merchants that advertise and you are outside the area they are seeking listeners.
I agree such stations are gems and likely they are successful and will be for quite some time.
Talked with a station owner that had his night signal wiped out by a Cuban station. He asked the FCC for help. The next day he wro the same letter again. After 5 years of writing daily they did do something about it. Contact the station you like and want to hear. Chances are they are not going to do the complaint thing because it takes plenty of time and attorney fees they might recover if they sue the offending station supposing the FCC sides wih them.
With you not being in Lincoln County, you are not buying from the merchants that advertise and you are outside the area they are seeking listeners.
I agree such stations are gems and likely they are successful and will be for quite some time.
And when @toddalcorn writes the FCC he should include recordings of the translator station as proof.
speaking as someone whos done tradio, some people can type and talk at the same time.. but it needs immense concentration and requires.. practice?
In my brains, talking to the person and typing requries two skills i cant do at once.... i can talk on the air and scribble shorthand on paper and type it up later, which i did.. bjut this was also a station of other staff.
typing would require me to move between programs. .word, automation, back and forth
here on KSKO, ive written stuff on paper while reading the community calendar or weather and its been fine.... trying to type while im talking just doesnt work well
I don't know exactly where Todd is in relation to WPBK, but any complaint about translator interference to a full-power station has to come from the full-power station, not from a listener.
There is a detailed procedure that the FCC laid out a few years ago to clarify how these disputes are handled in the cases where a full-power station's signal is suffering from interference in areas between its protected contour (60 dBu for most station classes, 57 dBu for B1, 54 dBu for B) and its 45 dBu contour.
Stations must submit a minimum number of listener complaints that include specific locations and a study showing the ratio between the desired and undesired signals at each of those locations.
That's not simple, but it simplifies the way the FCC then handles the dispute. If the complaints meet all the requirements, the onus is then on the translator to reduce power or otherwise alleviate the interference.
The adoption of these rules greatly clarified what had been an unclear set of guidelines.
Bottom line: if you're a WPBK listener suffering interference, the correct party to contact is WPBK.
IF it's important enough to WPBK to keep you in its audience and IF you meet the criteria for a valid complaint and IF they can get enough additional complaints to meet the minimum number, it's then up to WPBK to go through the process of filing a complaint with the Commission.
There is a detailed procedure that the FCC laid out a few years ago to clarify how these disputes are handled in the cases where a full-power station's signal is suffering from interference in areas between its protected contour (60 dBu for most station classes, 57 dBu for B1, 54 dBu for B) and its 45 dBu contour.
Stations must submit a minimum number of listener complaints that include specific locations and a study showing the ratio between the desired and undesired signals at each of those locations.
That's not simple, but it simplifies the way the FCC then handles the dispute. If the complaints meet all the requirements, the onus is then on the translator to reduce power or otherwise alleviate the interference.
The adoption of these rules greatly clarified what had been an unclear set of guidelines.
Bottom line: if you're a WPBK listener suffering interference, the correct party to contact is WPBK.
IF it's important enough to WPBK to keep you in its audience and IF you meet the criteria for a valid complaint and IF they can get enough additional complaints to meet the minimum number, it's then up to WPBK to go through the process of filing a complaint with the Commission.