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Paramount Skydance wants WBD

Why do people keep saying Paramount wants to dump CBS, when they just dumped a bunch of money to get UFC rights? Not to mention, the NFL has stated they want to continue the relationship with OTA tv into 2030s - and the NFL has a stake in paramount
 
Why do people keep saying Paramount wants to dump CBS, when they just dumped a bunch of money to get UFC rights?

It's mostly a Paramount+ streaming deal with "select numbered events set to simulcast on CBS"---so ALL the fights on streaming and only some on broadcast.


If they sell CBS, a new owner would be legally obligated to fulfill that part of the contract.

Not to mention, the NFL has stated they want to continue the relationship with OTA tv into 2030s - and the NFL has a stake in paramount

A less than 10% stake, the importance of which, in terms of carriage, the league itself downplays:

 
If that's the case, couldn't they wait until Warner spins its own things off, then buy WB/HBO?

What @Don CT said, plus maybe they want to be the ones to decide what stays and what goes. Attempting to influence that with a deal on the table could be a conflict of interest and/or a collusion issue.

Better to buy the whole, make your own assessment of what to keep and what to dump and use the proceeds of the sale of those assets to offset the cost of the acquisition.
 
Is this thing going to end up a "Cumulus on steroids" Where is Skydance getting it's money? Sooner or later you have to show some kind of return on investment. I guess they can go in debt but the note or bondholders would much rather you pay your debts than risk "taking a haircut" and end up with equity in a media company that can't pay it's debts.

Looking at this from a shareholder: last year according to SA they had a -$9.34 earnings per share. To be fair the M&A costs where ridiculous but the last quarter (June 25) was still a negative 2 cents per share. According to Trading Vew their free cash flow the last quarter was only $114 million dollars. These figures where most likely a "consolidated" statement. A fairer look will be next summer.

There is a tendency to "buy earnings". Any one remember WorldCom? But then there is Berkshire Hathaway who does it well most of the time*. BH usually buys companies that have "strong management and ownership (a surpriseing number were family ran)" and they stay in place. Not fixer uppers.

*Then there is Mondelez. I don't know what Warren was thinking.

IMHO media stocks are not for the faint of heart. Content creation is super important. Kinda like playing Black Jack in a casino. You just hope there are more winners than losers.
 
Is this thing going to end up a "Cumulus on steroids" Where is Skydance getting it's money? Sooner or later you have to show some kind of return on investment. I guess they can go in debt but the note or bondholders would much rather you pay your debts than risk "taking a haircut" and end up with equity in a media company that can't pay it's debts.

Looking at this from a shareholder: last year according to SA they had a -$9.34 earnings per share. To be fair the M&A costs where ridiculous but the last quarter (June 25) was still a negative 2 cents per share. According to Trading Vew their free cash flow the last quarter was only $114 million dollars. These figures where most likely a "consolidated" statement. A fairer look will be next summer.

There is a tendency to "buy earnings". Any one remember WorldCom? But then there is Berkshire Hathaway who does it well most of the time*. BH usually buys companies that have "strong management and ownership (a surpriseing number were family ran)" and they stay in place. Not fixer uppers.

*Then there is Mondelez. I don't know what Warren was thinking.

IMHO media stocks are not for the faint of heart. Content creation is super important. Kinda like playing Black Jack in a casino. You just hope there are more winners than losers.
Ellison has unlimited funds to do what ever he wants.
 
Exactly. They paid $8 billion for Paramount. That article I linked to tells how Dad made $100 billion in a day.

Warner Bros. Discovery is Larry's lunch money. All they need is regulatory approval, and in the current administration, I like their odds.
Would they allow them to own both WB and Paramount studios.
 
Exactly. They paid $8 billion for Paramount. That article I linked to tells how Dad made $100 billion in a day.

Warner Bros. Discovery is Larry's lunch money. All they need is regulatory approval, and in the current administration, I like their odds.
He doesn't have a Hundred Billion in the bank. It's all "paper profit". Oracle not going away but the only way you get the (profit) is to sell the stock, then pay taxes. If Oracle stock goes down so does his net worth. I'm not saying they could be destitute even really rich folks can have cash issues.

I was only looking at this as a shareholder of WBD. If am given the choice of cash or stock, I take cash. As my late grant Aunt said " You got to have kasssh". I plan on getting a piece of the "lunch money".
 
Exactly. They paid $8 billion for Paramount. That article I linked to tells how Dad made $100 billion in a day.

Warner Bros. Discovery is Larry's lunch money. All they need is regulatory approval, and in the current administration, I like their odds.
He doesn't have a Hundred Billion in the bank. It's all "paper profit". Oracle not going away but the only way you get the (profit) is to sell the stock, then pay taxes. If Oracle stock goes down so does his net worth. I'm not saying they could be destitute even really rich folks can have cash issues.

I was only looking at this as a shareholder of WBD. If am given the choice of cash or stock, I take cash. As my late grant Aunt said " You got to have kasssh". I plan on getting a piece of the "lunch money.
 
Would they allow them to own both WB and Paramount studios.
There'd still be four majors---a combined Paramount/WB, Universal, Disney and Sony.

Consolidation orthodoxy says you can (and should) get to three major players in any industry without anti-trust concerns.

I think in a Democratic administration, there'd be some pushback from DOJ. In this one, highly doubtful.
 
There'd still be four majors---a combined Paramount/WB, Universal, Disney and Sony.

Consolidation orthodoxy says you can (and should) get to three major players in any industry without anti-trust concerns.

I think in a Democratic administration, there'd be some pushback from DOJ. In this one, highly doubtful.
Would they run them as separate studios or a combined like Disney did with Fox. Did Sony buy out Colombia Pictures.
 
Exactly. They paid $8 billion for Paramount. That article I linked to tells how Dad made $100 billion in a day.

Warner Bros. Discovery is Larry's lunch money. All they need is regulatory approval, and in the current administration, I like their odds.
He doesn't have a Hundred Billion in the bank. It's all "paper profit". Oracle not going away but the only way you get the (profit) is to sell the stock, then pay taxes. If Oracle stock goes down so does his net worth. I'm not saying they could be destitute even really rich folks can have cash issues.

I was only looking at this as a shareholder of WBD. If am given the choice of cash or stock, I take cash. As my late grant Aunt said " You got to have kasssh". I plan on getting a piece of the "lunch money.
 
He doesn't have a Hundred Billion in the bank. It's all "paper profit". Oracle not going away but the only way you get the (profit) is to sell the stock, then pay taxes. If Oracle stock goes down so does his net worth. I'm not saying they could be destitute even really rich folks can have cash issues.

I was only looking at this as a shareholder of WBD. If am given the choice of cash or stock, I take cash. As my late grant Aunt said " You got to have kasssh". I plan on getting a piece of the "lunch money.
Double post thanks to bad wifi
 
I was only looking at this as a shareholder of WBD. If am given the choice of cash or stock, I take cash. As my late grant Aunt said " You got to have kasssh". I plan on getting a piece of the "lunch money.

WBD stock is up about 50% this week, to almost $20 a share. Unfortunately the cost basis is $30.
 


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