VintageMac
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I tend to go with original sources as opposed to opinions from those who do not have direct experience.
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WCSB 89.3 Switches to JazzNEO
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As someone who actively listens to JazzNEO, and who is listening to them right now, Ms. Bomgardner is factually incorrect on labeling it "smooth jazz".
I feel bad for her and the staff, but this was probably going to happen no matter what. Higher learning in Ohio has been adversely affected by political and economic factors that made this inevitable. Be lucky it's Ideastream and not some out-of-state Godcaster.
VintageMac
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It's her opinion and some of that Jazz NEO stuff is boring depending on the content. There are many online stations that do much better.
For what it has been up to this point—an HD digital subchannel with limited local content—they've done a very decent job. And that's my opinion as an active listener.
Not every station can be KKJZ (which, btw, is also owned by a college and operated by a Saul Levine affiliate).
VintageMac
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Like the Browns!
Okay, I see you're not being serious. The Browns are actively being subsidized by the state government for a new stadium, something CSU or public media in Ohio isn't getting.Like the Browns!
VintageMac
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Our state government does support public colleges through taxes. But you don't really get the problem here. You must be a secret Ideastream employee.
VintageMac
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The logo is hilarious as well in light of some of the dreamy conent:
And imposed draconian restrictions on what they can and cannot do because politics. Ya know, some of the stuff Ms. Bomgardner was decrying about in that Scene article. But I digress.
No, I am opposed to you calling the jazz format boring or comparing it to a money swindling operation that is disguised as a professional football team.
I am not. And with that I'm hitting "ignore" and moving on.
As someone who worked their first years in broadcasting at WCUY, an all Jazz station at 92.3 in Cleveland, I can certainly say that JazzNeo is a pretty good blend of styles and even eras.
You can't be a purist and play Ornette Coleman all day.
VintageMac
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Some might say that money swindling applies to colleges and in this case Ideastream. We'll see when pledge time comes around if more cash comes in or not.
VintageMac
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You're correct that there is blend of eras which can also be part of the problem. WKHR used to play some really old stuff and it seemed to clash with later material at times. It's all a matter of personal opinion.
There are multiple scenarios why colleges and universities have had their own radio stations over the years including:
1) Because they offered Communication/Broadcasting Degree programs for students interested in going into the field. Nowadays, with the current state of Radio and even TV where the name of the game is: "Never mind the experience or the professionalism -- the cheaper the better.", its hard for colleges to lure people into a $100k+ degree where you may be lucky to earn enough salary to cover your basic necessities, yet not knowing if you will still have a job there at the same station in year or two.
2) They may not offer Broadcasting or Communication degree programs , but they still want to air local college sports and programming that a commercial station won't cover. They were the local voice for the college, and they had enough volunteers to fill their daily schedule needs. But the internet is the new medium for these college students, and on-demand podcasting and internet streaming is far less expensive to deliver their sports play-by-play and niche programming then to have a traditional radio station. And depending on what software they use, they can track their listenership far more accurately and cheaper than trying to measure FM over-ther-air audiences.
I still support and will prefer listening to the far left side of the FM dial over anything above 92.1 and those stations that still give it "the old college try", but if a college believes that a traditional radio station does not have a proper return on investment, then they'll somehow get rid of it. I went to college at the Univ. Of Toledo in the 80s. They took out the student bowling alley during my time there to put in a computer lab, because a more usable modern technology venue was more appealing than an occasional activity past it's prime.
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It doesn't appear that Cleveland State will be offering students an online station in place of the broadcast signal. The problem they had with WCSB was that it wasn't offering instructional experience. It was mainly a playpen where students did whatever they wanted. How does something like that fit with the mission of a university?
They could have made this transition much smoother simply by moving the WCSB programming to an HD2.
That assumes the university wants to keep the studio where it is.
It sounds like the university wants its students to learn about broadcasting in a professional setting. That's a different thing.
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Being simulcast on 90.3-2 extends 89.3’s reach, just like 90.3-3 helps extend WKSU’s reach. There’s no reason to add anything else.
WCSB’s 630-watt signal is hemmed in to the west by WNZN 89.1 Lorain, to the east by WKSV 89.1 Thompson Township, and to the south by WKRW 89.3 Wooster. So there’s very much a need to extend JazzNEO outside of the immediate Cleveland area.
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