There was no instruction taking place at WCSB. Just kids playing their favorite music.
The new deal will give the students paid internships that will lead to actual jobs in the industry.
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WCSB Flips to Jazz
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There was no instruction taking place at WCSB. Just kids playing their favorite music.
The new deal will give the students paid internships that will lead to actual jobs in the industry.
VintageMac
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How many internships?
Nothing wrong with students playing their favorite music. People enjoy listening to different things.
Are they still repeating his shows touring countries that no longer exist?Don't forget the travel shows with Rick Steves.
But it's not educational. Colleges are about education. Not playtime. They can play their favorite music at home. I do it all the time. In my radio job, I play what I get told to play. That's why it's called work.
VintageMac
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It is educational and also similar to other activities like sports which also cost dollars to run. Also, it was about diversity having various forms of music as well as ethnic shows. But of course, diversity is not trending politically at the moment.
They can do all of that without paying all the expense of owning a radio station. It's obvious this radio station has become too much for the university.
VintageMac
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If that's the case, the university should state how much savings are coming with this move but nothing heard so far.
VintageMac
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PBS likes old stuff, even shows with people who have been dead for years like the Lawrence Welk Show.
Have you asked them? This was done by the university board. They're looking out for the best interests of the university. They report to the chancellor of higher education, who reports to the governor. The main thing we know is they don't have to pay for the studio anymore.
The reality is they were not sticking with the status quo. Something was going to change. This is the change they made. Other schools are just shutting down their stations and turning in the licenses to the FCC. Others are selling to religious organizations. The days of playing radio are over.
VintageMac
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Again, if they want to be honest about it they should state the supposed savings. Just because other colleges turned in their licenses doesn't mean that those situations were like WCSB's. The university is not giving details which they should as a public institution.
Also, if money is the issue let's see if other local college stations shut down as well.
VintageMac
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One thing to note, from the Channel 5 article, it states that Ideastream approached CSU:
"Cleveland State University President Laura Bloomberg explained that Ideastream approached the school several months ago about taking over the FM signal for jazz programming. In exchange, the school would strengthen its relationship for student opportunities for hands-on experience at Ideastream, such as paid and for-credit learning opportunities like internships in journalism, television, radio production, marketing and graphic design."
So it's more like Ideastream wanted the frequency since it knows that the HD-2 audience isn't that numerous and online listening is an option but many people still listen on traditional radio.
"Cleveland State University President Laura Bloomberg explained that Ideastream approached the school several months ago about taking over the FM signal for jazz programming. In exchange, the school would strengthen its relationship for student opportunities for hands-on experience at Ideastream, such as paid and for-credit learning opportunities like internships in journalism, television, radio production, marketing and graphic design."
So it's more like Ideastream wanted the frequency since it knows that the HD-2 audience isn't that numerous and online listening is an option but many people still listen on traditional radio.
How many examples do you want? Penn State just announced they'll be shutting down their radio & TV stations in June.
As Penn State moves ahead with shutting down WPSU, community supporters look for 'Plan B'
Penn State plans to shut down WPSU and its operations by June 30, 2026, but many in the community are urging the university to reconsider the closure while they look for a ‘Plan B’ for keeping public television and radio in central Pennsylvania.
radio.wpsu.org
Salem State has shut down it's college station:
FCC Report 8/31: Pair of Arkansas AMs And Massachusetts NonComm Surrender Licenses
License Cancellations Salem State University has surrendered the license of 91.7 WMWM Salem MA. The station has been silent since
radioinsight.com
Park University in Kansas City. It's happening a lot. Running college radio stations is expensive, and colleges want to devote their resources to instruction in the classroom. They're happy to work with other stations to provide professional internships. That's what's happening. People are complaining about the high cost of going to college, and this is one way to deal with it.
People should be happy that Ideastream stepped up to the plate to save this station from being turned off or sold to religious operators.
VintageMac
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We don't know if those examples have anything to do with WCSB's situation. Ideastream approached CSU according to the Channel 5 story not the other way. They're still going to have paid internships which I assume CSU will pay for so again, where are the supposed savings? You're not making a good argument posting about other stations in other cities.How many examples do you want? Penn State just announced they'll be shutting down their radio & TV stations in June.
As Penn State moves ahead with shutting down WPSU, community supporters look for 'Plan B'
Penn State plans to shut down WPSU and its operations by June 30, 2026, but many in the community are urging the university to reconsider the closure while they look for a ‘Plan B’ for keeping public television and radio in central Pennsylvania.
Salem State has shut down it's college station:
FCC Report 8/31: Pair of Arkansas AMs And Massachusetts NonComm Surrender Licenses
License Cancellations Salem State University has surrendered the license of 91.7 WMWM Salem MA. The station has been silent since
Park University in Kansas City. It's happening a lot. Running college radio stations is expensive, and colleges want to devote their resources to instruction in the classroom. They're happy to work with other stations to provide professional internships. That's what's happening.
Where did you read that CSU will pay for internships? That's not how internships are done.
You asked about other stations, and I gave you some examples. Now you're complaining about my examples. You asked for them.
VintageMac
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I didn't ask for examples. I asked where the savings will come from with the Ideastream takeover and you don't know since you haven't posted about that.
If you are really an insider, then tell us more specifically about the savings, internships etc. or is it just a lot of hot air you're expelling.
VintageMac
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From the Scene article, it stated that it wasn't a cost cutting move:
"But is WCSB’s rebranding one of them? Bomgardner said the station she helped run raised tens of thousands of dollars from donors per year, used mostly to pay those behind the scenes a per-semester stipend.
Bloomberg herself denied the move was out of cost-cutting measure."
Others say it's political:
“I think it shows CSU is not willing to stand for to members and their voices. All this is definitely influenced by politics,” Bomgardner said. “Ideastream is a safer play than having a hundred students with a hundred different opinions.”
"But is WCSB’s rebranding one of them? Bomgardner said the station she helped run raised tens of thousands of dollars from donors per year, used mostly to pay those behind the scenes a per-semester stipend.
Bloomberg herself denied the move was out of cost-cutting measure."
Others say it's political:
“I think it shows CSU is not willing to stand for to members and their voices. All this is definitely influenced by politics,” Bomgardner said. “Ideastream is a safer play than having a hundred students with a hundred different opinions.”
Not necessarily. While some students may get paid internships, the radio broadcasting industry is shrinking, not growing. And that means there will be fewer jobs available when they leave college then when they entered it. That last sentence is one of the reasons why some colleges are getting out of radio altogether.
Yes you did. Here's what you said:
I showed you where other college stations are shutting down because of money. You want more?
Where did I say I'm an insider? You want details? Ask the university.
If that last sentence is true, then I guess we'd better look for the Gavin polling of college stations to shut down; and we also should look for the recording industry to stop marketing new acts to college radio stations. And College stations have been in the past, and still are, one big way for new acts to break into the majors that will most certainly be shut down if all colleges follow Cleveland State's example. And though I've had my issues with college radio in the distant past, I, for one, don't think allowing students to have fun and point at what might be the next big thing for the music industry is really a bad thing.
VintageMac
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You have trouble reading. I stated about other local college stations? Look up "local" if not sure what it means.