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The Daily Show to CBS?

TheBigA said:
Did I say that? Have you been reading anything I've written on the subject?

If the audience is there, the stations will find a way to survive the loss of funding. It's all about motivating that audience. I believe the audience is there, and there will be new sources of funding that will replace CPB. There already are in some places.

Back to CBS: The audience for traditional linear broadcasting is declining. Just as the audience for AM radio is declining. If the future of broadcast TV is what we see on AM talk radio, then that's what it is. It will continue in the direction it's going. The people who want quality journalism know where to find it, and they will support it. I think what has to happen for it to have an impact is for all of the disconnected voices who make up quality journalism join together in one place the way they once did many years ago at CBS. Quality journalism needs to have an impact, and the way to do it is to get bigger than it is now. That's not going to happen on broadcast TV.
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It's a solid argument in a normal time when there's not an authoritarian takeover and an expressed desire on the part of an administration to suppress reliable sources of journalism.

There are societies that had independent and reliable broadcast news and then didn't (Russia in that brief span between the fall of Communism and Putin taking power). I think we're on that path, I think it's intentional and I think Ellison wants to help get us there.
 
crainbebo said:
I still think CBS dumps late night altogether. Affiliates go to an hour of news at 11, then syndicated Entertainment Tonight, game shows, Access Hollywood, etc. and infomercials.
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That's what Fox does, although it's at 10PM. Works fine for them. I don't think that's how CBS works.

Currently, CBS is set up around major divisions: Entertainment, News, Sports, Specials. Entertainment has a president named Amy Reisenbach. She oversees all prime time and late night programming. I don't think she's ready to give up a revenue-producing daypart for more local news.
 
TheBigA said:
That's what Fox does, although it's at 10PM. Works fine for them. I don't think that's how CBS works.

Currently, CBS is set up around major divisions: Entertainment, News, Sports, Specials. Entertainment has a president named Amy Reisenbach. She oversees all prime time and late night programming. I don't think she's ready to give up a revenue-producing daypart for more local news.
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When Fox ended prime time at 10 was that out of necessity because they didn’t have programming when they started. Would they have done a normal 3 hours had they had the inventory.
 
michael hagerty said:
It's a solid argument in a normal time when there's not an authoritarian takeover and an expressed desire on the part of an administration to suppress reliable sources of journalism.
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If the government wants to do that, there's not much profit-making companies that depend on government approvals can do about that. We already have seen how profit-making companies have responded. They've lavished millions of dollars on the new king, and helped him build his gold & marble palace. It's up to the people to do what the founding fathers did in the face of an authoritarian king.

Don't wait around for broadcast media, licensed by the government, to stand up to authoritarian power. It won't happen.
 
For awhile I've felt (but expressed elsewhere) that trying to fix the CBS Evening News for what it is—a half-hour newscast at 6:30 ET/5:30 CT-MT—is a losing proposition. The newscast hasn't been in first place since the Reagan administration and has had a carousel of anchors and formats since 2005, when Dan Rather was forced out.

If Bari Weiss truly wants to shake things up, she could do no worse than moving the Evening News to 10pm, make it an hour, and relaunch it as a mixture of news and right-wing opinion. Have that as a lead-in to local news at 11pm and another half-hour afterwards. They'd be ceding an hour of scripted primetime in the process but given the shape CBS scripted primetime is currently in, it couldn't hurt.
 
Don CT said:
When Fox ended prime time at 10 was that out of necessity because they didn’t have programming when they started. Would they have done a normal 3 hours had they had the inventory.
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That was only part of the equation, and it takes into account the fact that Fox -- and both The WB and UPN in later years -- started with a single night of programming and then added nights in future seasons.

Second part of the equation, which also applied to all three: Their affiliates had all formerly been independents and had established 10:00pm (9:00pm Central) newscasts. They would not have "taken a chance" on a new network that forced them to compete with the "big network" affiliates for the late news.

Third, relevant at the time but not today, by not programming all 17 prime-time hours, Fox (and the rest) were not originally defined as networks, but as "program suppliers" ... which affected any regulations that applied to network programming.
 
Just caught a typo, too late to edit:

The total number of broadcast hours per week that are considered "prime time" is 22, not 17. (8-11PM ET/PT or 7-10PM CT, plus one hour earlier on Sundays.)
 
On the subject of 60 Minutes and CBS News, the president will appear on 60 Minutes tonight for the first time in 5 years, and since he sued them:

www.cbsnews.com

President Trump sits down with Norah O'Donnell on 60 Minutes

President Trump's interview with Norah O'Donnell airs Sunday, Nov. 2, on 60 Minutes.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com

It will be interesting to see if the interview is edited, or affected by Bari Weiss in some way.

The interview will be conducted by Norah O'Donnell.
 
TheBigA said:
On the subject of 60 Minutes and CBS News, the president will appear on 60 Minutes tonight for the first time in 5 years, and since he sued them:

www.cbsnews.com

President Trump sits down with Norah O'Donnell on 60 Minutes

President Trump's interview with Norah O'Donnell airs Sunday, Nov. 2, on 60 Minutes.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com

It will be interesting to see if the interview is edited, or affected by Bari Weiss in some way.

The interview will be conducted by Norah O'Donnell.
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Norah said it was a 90 minute interview. Hopefully it was explained to him that all 90 minutes can’t be aired
 
michael hagerty said:
If you haven’t seen what Weiss was doing (including video news content) at The Free Press, John Oliver had clips. The link to the full segment is at the end of this Variety article.
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That full segment is worth a watch. Oliver is always entertaining, informative, and honest about what he's doing. I wonder how long it will be before the powers-that-be target his show as well.

p.s. the most bonkers part of that 60 Minutes interview was (IMO) the part where Trump claimed to know nothing about the convicted money launderer who invested 2 billion in his family's crypto business and was subsequently given a full pardon.
 
Deus Ex Machiato said:
That full segment is worth a watch. Oliver is always entertaining, informative, and honest about what he's doing. I wonder how long it will be before the powers-that-be target his show as well.
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If Ellison buys WarnerDiscovery, it's probably game over for John.

Deus Ex Machiato said:
p.s. the most bonkers part of that 60 Minutes interview was (IMO) the part where Trump claimed to know nothing about the convicted money launderer who invested 2 billion in his family's crypto business and was subsequently given a full pardon.
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He's been using that technique for a month or two now. "People tell me he was wrongfully convicted. I don't know."
 
I don't see The Daily Show moving to CBS in my opinion. I know when WXMI FOX17 didn't launch news until Jan of 99 was only 30 minutes at 10PM I think FOX told the stations to air news or lose FOX I think, not sure on that thou.
 


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