Stop The Presses!

[trusty]

Forever looking for simple solutions (with emphasis on "simple"), if you really have to have the print copy of the digital readout, there's always control+P.

I'll go away now...

 

[jabba17]

Crosley experimented with a paper that was sent over WLW in the wee hours to a crude fax machine in the late 1930s.

 

[secondchoice]

Crosley experimented with a paper that was sent over WLW in the wee hours to a crude fax machine in the late 1930s.

I bet that really was a large listener builder. The again it's had to generate revenue between 1am and 5am. The late 1930's theUS was just getting out of the depression. Was that when they were operating at over 50KW? If I had a "crude fax machine" could I get my the newspaper for "free"?

 

[umfan]

I bet that really was a large listener builder. The again it's had to generate revenue between 1am and 5am. The late 1930's theUS was just getting out of the depression. Was that when they were operating at over 50KW? If I had a "crude fax machine" could I get my the newspaper for "free"?

Probably was a way of syndicating the paper to outlying, even distant markets without the cost of printing and shipping.

 

[tylerSC]

Probably was a way of syndicating the paper to outlying, even distant markets without the cost of printing and shipping.

The AJC used to be distributed all over the state of Georgia, parts of Alabama, Tennessee, NC, SC, and north Florida. They scaled back long distance distribution in 2007 when they stopped delivering to retailers in Greenville-Spartanburg, SC and those other states. Last year, The Charlotte Observer cut back to 3 days a week and stopped delivering to Upstate SC and Asheville areas. I miss the printed papers, but apparently long distance distribution is no longer economically feasible.

 

[jabba17]

The AJC used to be distributed all over the state of Georgia, parts of Alabama, Tennessee, NC, SC, and north Florida. They scaled back long distance distribution in 2007 when they stopped delivering to retailers in Greenville-Spartanburg, SC and those other states. Last year, The Charlotte Observer cut back to 3 days a week and stopped delivering to Upstate SC and Asheville areas. I miss the printed papers, but apparently long distance distribution is no longer economically feasible.

I'm sure it's long been a better economic decision to rely on online for those readers.

 

[TheBigA]

I miss the printed papers, but apparently long distance distribution is no longer economically feasible.

If it was, they'd still be doing it. But think of it this way: With the internet, there is no geographic limitation to their distribution. And there is no cost. Think of all the money they spent printing papers, then trucking those papers to retail outlets, and then all the papers that were left unsold.

It's similar to the music business, that was once based on physical sales of records or CDs. Now they strictly create and sell music. People pay per listen. With newspapers, they pay per view. It puts the emphasis where it should be, which is in creating engaging content.

What does that mean? Newspapers such as the New York Times can include video on their site. They can do podcasts. The same option is available to radio stations. They're no longer restricted to audio only.

 

[secondchoice]

If it was, they'd still be doing it. But think of it this way: With the internet, there is no geographic limitation to their distribution. And there is no cost. Think of all the money they spent printing papers, then trucking those papers to retail outlets, and then all the papers that were left unsold.

It's similar to the music business, that was once based on physical sales of records or CDs. Now they strictly create and sell music. People pay per listen. With newspapers, they pay per view. It puts the emphasis where it should be, which is in creating engaging content.

What does that mean? Newspapers such as the New York Times can include video on their site. They can do podcasts. The same option is available to radio stations. They're no longer restricted to audio only.

When I worked for Harris, I lived 2 doors down from one of their newspaper sales guys. IIRC he said the newspaper's profit was mainly from advertising. He said if there was no advertising, there won't be daily newspaper.

That's why I don't understand how they are going to make it. I am a subscriber to the digital edition, and you click the articles tab you miss most of the ads you would see in the print edition.

 

[davideduardo]

Wow. Will this be the largest newspaper of record to end print at this point?

I believe, at least at its peak, that the Cleveland Plain Dealer had higher circulation. There is debate as to whether the Plain Dealer continues since it's name became property of Cleveland.com.

So, yeah, this is likely the biggest that did not just close but continues to "publish" on the web.

 

[KilowattKat]

This has been happening for some time to the print editions of 'alternative' weekly freebies that are in most large cities. I always liked these papers, that had a featured local cover story, sometimes investigative, a complete rundown of the local entertainment scene, irreverent comics, offbeat columns and articles, usually with a liberal perspective.

Here in San Diego, 'The Reader' is now available online only. Judging by the last printed editions, it seemed the pages of ads for marijuana dispensaries in the back pages have been the bread and butter for their revenue.

I have no idea how they are doing financially nowadays, but The Reader seems to have faded from the public conscience. I do miss picking up the free copy every Wednesday outside the 7-11.

 

[CTListener]

The AJC used to be distributed all over the state of Georgia, parts of Alabama, Tennessee, NC, SC, and north Florida.

The Constitution, before its merger with the Journal, used to have "Covers Dixie Like the Dew" on its front page every day.

 

[CTListener]

This has been happening for some time to the print editions of 'alternative' weekly freebies that are in most large cities. I always liked these papers, that had a featured local cover story, sometimes investigative, a complete rundown of the local entertainment scene, irreverent comics, offbeat columns and articles, usually with a liberal perspective.

Here in San Diego, 'The Reader' is now available online only. Judging by the last printed editions, it seemed the pages of ads for marijuana dispensaries in the back pages have been the bread and butter for their revenue.

I have no idea how they are doing financially nowadays, but The Reader seems to have faded from the public conscience. I do miss picking up the free copy every Wednesday outside the 7-11.

Vermont has an alternative weekly called Seven Days (published in Burlington but distributed statewide) that still publishes a print edition of 48 or so pages and gets a good amount of advertising, much of it from cannabis dispensaries that electronic media won't sell air time to. (And those marijuana ads are big, and in prime locations in the paper, not just the back pages.) It looks healthy, but every few weeks there's an appeal to the public for more donations printed. One of them is this week's banner on the website, so appearance may be deceiving when it comes to the health of the paper in print.

Seven Days | Vermont's Independent Voice

Vermont newspaper covering news, politics, food, arts, music and culture since 1995.

www.sevendaysvt.com

 

[radiofan2023]

This has been happening for some time to the print editions of 'alternative' weekly freebies that are in most large cities. I always liked these papers, that had a featured local cover story, sometimes investigative, a complete rundown of the local entertainment scene, irreverent comics, offbeat columns and articles, usually with a liberal perspective.

Here in San Diego, 'The Reader' is now available online only. Judging by the last printed editions, it seemed the pages of ads for marijuana dispensaries in the back pages have been the bread and butter for their revenue.

I have no idea how they are doing financially nowadays, but The Reader seems to have faded from the public conscience. I do miss picking up the free copy every Wednesday outside the 7-11.

Did it smudge ink on your hands? The Pitch used to smudge so badly that my hands were half black after reading it all! The Cityview in Des Moines never did though. It looks like each one still gets distributed in print.

 

[Y2kTheNewOldies]

Not shocking to hear AJC to go the way its heading. If one has to wonder why its because readers can go to the Associated Press and Reuters directly for National news stories and in some parts of the country Patch and Hoodline have taken over to replace a suburban or small town newspaper in the country for local news content. AJC has to respond to those changes in reader habits.

Plus if one is looking for coverage at the Georgia State Capitol. The States Newsroom and its affiliate The Georgia Recorder and GPB has put resources to cover state politics such as State Legislature, Governors office and state courts for that one. It's just that the readers in the state of Georgia found different places to get their news content outside of AJC.

Newsrooms • States Newsroom

statesnewsroom.com

About • Georgia Recorder

The Georgia Recorder is an independent, nonprofit news organization that is focused on connecting public policies to stories of the people and communities affected by them. We bring a fresh perspective to coverage of the state’s biggest issues from our office a few blocks from Georgia’s Gold...

georgiarecorder.com

 

[KilowattKat]

Did it smudge ink on your hands? The Pitch used to smudge so badly that my hands were half black after reading it all! The Cityview in Des Moines never did though. It looks like each one still gets distributed in print.

The Reader actually had a glossy front and back cover, while the New Times in Phoenix was all newspaper print, not good if you're wearing a white shirt.

 

[On the Dial]

Not shocking to hear AJC to go the way its heading. If one has to wonder why its because readers can go to the Associated Press and Reuters directly for National news stories and in some parts of the country Patch and Hoodline have taken over to replace a suburban or small town newspaper in the country for local news content. AJC has to respond to those changes in reader habits.

Plus if one is looking for coverage at the Georgia State Capitol. The States Newsroom and its affiliate The Georgia Recorder and GPB has put resources to cover state politics such as State Legislature, Governors office and state courts for that one. It's just that the readers in the state of Georgia found different places to get their news content outside of AJC.

Newsrooms • States Newsroom

statesnewsroom.com

About • Georgia Recorder

The Georgia Recorder is an independent, nonprofit news organization that is focused on connecting public policies to stories of the people and communities affected by them. We bring a fresh perspective to coverage of the state’s biggest issues from our office a few blocks from Georgia’s Gold...

georgiarecorder.com

These alternative sources are good for highly motivated information consumers, but I fear that the average reader is not going to go to all that trouble. The beauty of the traditional newspaper was that it provided a wide variety of information that was all available in one place, including articles about subjects I wouldn't have been interested in if I hadn't happened to glance an interesting headline or photograph as I was getting ready to turn the page to see the sports section or the tv listings or my favorite columnist. I fear this is one additional step toward us all heading into our own little information silos.

 

[secondchoice]

Plus if one is looking for coverage at the Georgia State Capitol. The States Newsroom and its affiliate The Georgia Recorder and GPB has put resources to cover state politics such as State Legislature

Do you really think an organization under the control of the State Government (GPTV) is going to be "objective"? That's kinda like the old USSR with only one "News" source "Pravda".

I haven't done News in 3+ decades but, the AP stuff back then was mostly stories that originated from a Newspaper.

 

[Y2kTheNewOldies]

States Newsroom - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

News from the States - Bias and Credibility

LEFT BIAS These media sources are moderate to strongly biased toward progressive/liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation.

mediabiasfactcheck.com

Georgia Recorder - Bias and Credibility

LEFT BIAS These media sources are moderate to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may

mediabiasfactcheck.com

Ok States Newsroom and Georgia Recorder are not owned by any state Government. But the point is that there are people finding other places for reliable news outside of AJC. But I see what one means with GPB though given its history as being dependent on CPB funding.

 

[secondchoice]

States Newsroom - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

News from the States - Bias and Credibility

LEFT BIAS These media sources are moderate to strongly biased toward progressive/liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation.

mediabiasfactcheck.com

Georgia Recorder - Bias and Credibility

LEFT BIAS These media sources are moderate to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may

mediabiasfactcheck.com

But the point is that there are people finding other places for reliable news outside of AJC.

IMHO not really. People tend to go to sites that reinforce their beliefs. Can these sites be sued for totally botching a story? Or at least publish a retraction? The Constitution protects "opinion" but at a "real" news organization you had better have a verified quote or at least have 2 sources.

 

[jabba17]

iHeart's Georgia News Network is still going. You can listen online here. Georgia News Network - GNN