HMMM, somehow, I flipped that quote around, sorry y'all.
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HMMM, somehow, I flipped that quote around, sorry y'all.
Romans 11:33-36 KJB
Josh
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K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
I tried flipping it back (and several other directions) and I still don't quite understand what you meant to say, Josh. Could you perhaps take another shot at it?
Did this not post earlier? Reckon it didn't, so I'll try it again. Oh and re: flipping a quote around, I meant the quote from the post I was quoting which contained my reply, if that makes sense. Re: 1460, better not let Carl Ford hear you say that LOL. Back in the day, I could hear 1140 on my GESR3 in Brown Summit, which was right next to my former employer BTW. Oh and Chimp, I'd say 1460 and '50 being right next to each other, doesn't help, but as a former co-worker of mine at a plant I worked at used to say, you'll have that on these big jobs LOL.
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I actually wrote the man when I was listening to WAVO 1150 and having problems from 1140 AM. I suggested that if 1140 and 1460 had the same daytime programming, perhaps he shouldn't do that since there was so much overlap. Instead, make a deal to put the 1150 programming on 1140. At night, there wouldn't be overlap so 1140 could be the same.
Re: the Gastonia signal - If Premiere wants its shows on a larger signal in an area where smaller signals already carry them, the ancillary affiliates lose them and have no recourse. There used to be a 90 day notice for Premiere to pull the contract. Not sure if that’s still the case.
When 100kW 103.7 WTIB/Williamston took on Beck, Rush, and Hannity, 5kW AMs 560 WGAI/Elizabeth City and 930 WDLX/Washington both lost the shows. I know for a fact 930 was given a notice with a drop date.
When 100kW 103.7 WTIB/Williamston took on Beck, Rush, and Hannity, 5kW AMs 560 WGAI/Elizabeth City and 930 WDLX/Washington both lost the shows. I know for a fact 930 was given a notice with a drop date.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
No. I guess there's no rule saying he can't have his two stations overlapping with the same programming on both.And did he reply?
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
Or he simply dismissed a listener suggestion without even considering it. Some owners have a "know it all" mindset like that.
Although they do own a handful of non urban formatted stations, where do you get the idea that they're trying to diversify? I don't see that.
Let's try it this way.
Thanks. Also, it looks like there's a woman on, Mondays from 5:30-6 and maybe sometime on Saturday morning, going off memory, which ain't too good LOL.
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Now, I'm the one who doesn't understand. Did you perhaps, get 1140 and '50 mixed up? Were 1140 and '50 carrying the same programming at one time, as in the same broadcast say for an hour or two, not the same all day, as in ownership? I remember 'AVO being run by Larry Hess and etc, who ran 'CGC. Of course, this was some years ago.
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Gotcha, reckon that makes sense.
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If you're talking about 'RNA and 'RKB, ever since they've both been his, that's exactly what they've done, save for each station carries it's own Sunday morning church service at 11, or they did a few years ago. Reckon that's something grandfathered.
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Alfred Liggins (Urban One CEO) said publicly that they were trying to diversify format offerings and revenue streams when they acquired the Charlotte stations from Entercom. It worked so well that they did the same thing in Houston and Indianapolis.
The lack of an establishment of a new format on 1110 has to be deadly. I think stunting can only work for a brief period of time, and after that it is not much different than signing off the air. Once that happens, it has to be very difficult, without a lot of billboard, or in the modern age, social media promotion to get an audience back. On the San Francisco board that has been following a silent full market AM, KZAC 560, I had made a suggestion that a new format be created, Entertainment Radio. Several experienced people brought me down to earth with the realities of funding a radio station startup and the problems of working with an empty street that is AM. But I still think the idea has merit, and in the hands of a cluster that can spread some of the cost out, it could be tested for not too much risk.
My idea for Entertainment Radio is that there has to be a decent number of people for who 24/7 Political Shouting is a tune out, for who Sports/Guy talk is not their thing, and for who Music with Commercials has been replaced with Internet sources that are uninterrupted. What would be new is Entertainment, initially in the form of Old Time Radio. The programming would run in the daytime, radio's prime time, not buried in the evening or overnight. The internet archive has many, many hours of programming there free for the listening, so I am assuming it would be available to a broadcaster for free or at least not much. There are modern day producers, such as Imagination Theater that might welcome making their programs available for a price, but also making allowances for the exposure a signal like 560 or 1110 would offer.
There were a number of critiques to the idea:
Too Old - Only 70+ would listen. To which I say, how do we know? Nothing like it has been tried in at least 40 years. I would bet most 40 years olds have never heard Suspense. The programming would have to be carefully selected - nothing that is too dated or corny. The job of the program director would be to dig through the mounds of programs to find the acceptable ones, much like a music director has to find the right tunes to spin.
The language and how we speak has changed. To which I say, the OTR programs could test the concept. Eventually modern programs would be needed. But if audience is there, advertisers with money might follow (?). Another idea might be to get college and/or high school theatrical groups to re-record the scripts in modern American-ese. That would cost something, but could it be affordable?
A solid point was made about the Cumeless empty street that AM has become. I don't have a good response to that except to suggest that maybe the street is empty of pedestrians because the storefronts are all faceless warehouses, fundamentalist churches, and small time bodegas. If somebody took one of those empty warehouses and put in a Craft Brewery maybe that would generate traffic?
Another solid point was the cost of operating a radio station, a question I had often wondered about, but had never got a complete answer. To this I don't have a good response, except to suggest a cluster might be able to spread out the costs a bit (?). A knowledgeable estimate (for San Francisco) suggested a broadcaster better be thinking of having $50K a month available just to get off the ground. That kind of explains why New York's WLIB 1190 has been on the market for so long (and probably will remain so).
Someone on the San Francisco board suggested that a new format might better be tried on an internet 'proving ground'. That's a good idea and could certainly be done, and since Entertainment Radio would be new to the 21st Century, it might get ears even if there are thousands of other choices on the 'Internet band'. But at some point it would have to be tried on a real radio station in a real market to see how it plays in Peoria. A difference between San Francisco and Charlotte is that KZAC is counting down the days to FCC delisting with a short-of-cash Cumulus owning it, and 1110 is alive and kicking. If 1110 is doing nothing now, the facilities may already be there.
My idea for Entertainment Radio is that there has to be a decent number of people for who 24/7 Political Shouting is a tune out, for who Sports/Guy talk is not their thing, and for who Music with Commercials has been replaced with Internet sources that are uninterrupted. What would be new is Entertainment, initially in the form of Old Time Radio. The programming would run in the daytime, radio's prime time, not buried in the evening or overnight. The internet archive has many, many hours of programming there free for the listening, so I am assuming it would be available to a broadcaster for free or at least not much. There are modern day producers, such as Imagination Theater that might welcome making their programs available for a price, but also making allowances for the exposure a signal like 560 or 1110 would offer.
There were a number of critiques to the idea:
Too Old - Only 70+ would listen. To which I say, how do we know? Nothing like it has been tried in at least 40 years. I would bet most 40 years olds have never heard Suspense. The programming would have to be carefully selected - nothing that is too dated or corny. The job of the program director would be to dig through the mounds of programs to find the acceptable ones, much like a music director has to find the right tunes to spin.
The language and how we speak has changed. To which I say, the OTR programs could test the concept. Eventually modern programs would be needed. But if audience is there, advertisers with money might follow (?). Another idea might be to get college and/or high school theatrical groups to re-record the scripts in modern American-ese. That would cost something, but could it be affordable?
A solid point was made about the Cumeless empty street that AM has become. I don't have a good response to that except to suggest that maybe the street is empty of pedestrians because the storefronts are all faceless warehouses, fundamentalist churches, and small time bodegas. If somebody took one of those empty warehouses and put in a Craft Brewery maybe that would generate traffic?
Another solid point was the cost of operating a radio station, a question I had often wondered about, but had never got a complete answer. To this I don't have a good response, except to suggest a cluster might be able to spread out the costs a bit (?). A knowledgeable estimate (for San Francisco) suggested a broadcaster better be thinking of having $50K a month available just to get off the ground. That kind of explains why New York's WLIB 1190 has been on the market for so long (and probably will remain so).
Someone on the San Francisco board suggested that a new format might better be tried on an internet 'proving ground'. That's a good idea and could certainly be done, and since Entertainment Radio would be new to the 21st Century, it might get ears even if there are thousands of other choices on the 'Internet band'. But at some point it would have to be tried on a real radio station in a real market to see how it plays in Peoria. A difference between San Francisco and Charlotte is that KZAC is counting down the days to FCC delisting with a short-of-cash Cumulus owning it, and 1110 is alive and kicking. If 1110 is doing nothing now, the facilities may already be there.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
Sir, with all due respect, I don't think you learned anything from the discussion about KZAC on the San Francisco board.
No one is going to try your idea. It's too much start up work for an unknown quantity (but presumed low) of listening.
This is so close to the kind of fantasy post that Lance dislikes so much that I will be waiting for him to chime in.
No one is going to try your idea. It's too much start up work for an unknown quantity (but presumed low) of listening.
This is so close to the kind of fantasy post that Lance dislikes so much that I will be waiting for him to chime in.
I was listening to 1150 AM and because I was close to China Grove, I was hearing a lot of interference.
It might have helped extend the 1150 AM range to have the programming on 1140, since during the day on weekdays it was just the same as 1460, which I thought wouldn't be allowed. The owners of 1150 AM had 1410 AM to simulcast for a while but sold it.
I didn't realize he made that statement. Thank.you. I don't see much diversity, but I suppose Rome wasn't built in a day.
Exactly. That’s why I said in an earlier post Radio One has likely NEVER considered selling WBT. They’ve been diversifying in legacy markets as well, such as DC where they demoted urban gospel to a weak signal to flip a station to a Spanish format.
In Houston Radio One’s FM cluster includes Adult R&B, Rhythmic CHR, Classic Rock and Country. I would say there is diversity there.