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What is up with the Delmar stations?

Anyone know what is going on with the Delmar stations...96.7, 95X, 93X and their AM counterparts?

The website for 96.7 doesn't work, and today, they had the True Oldies Channel this morning on instead of the "Classic Rock" format on 93 & 95X.

I like their formatting but it seems like every since their "skirmish" with Randy Malloy and the CD92.9 debacle, things have went downhill.
 
Anyone know what is going on with the Delmar stations...96.7, 95X, 93X and their AM counterparts?

The website for 96.7 doesn't work, and today, they had the True Oldies Channel this morning on instead of the "Classic Rock" format on 93 & 95X.

I like their formatting but it seems like every since their "skirmish" with Randy Malloy and the CD92.9 debacle, things have went downhill.
When I was in Columbus last week, I heard 92.9 as a straight simulcast of 95.1 with the same liners like “95X rocks Bucyrus.” Really odd to hear on a station in a large market. Feels like it was just a temporary solution after the Spanish LMA didn’t work out, but can’t imagine it was making money.
 
Anyone know what is going on with the Delmar stations...96.7, 95X, 93X and their AM counterparts?

The website for 96.7 doesn't work, and today, they had the True Oldies Channel this morning on instead of the "Classic Rock" format on 93 & 95X.

I like their formatting but it seems like ever since their "skirmish" with Randy Malloy and the CD92.9 debacle, things have went downhill.
Was that the am station or the translators too?
 
Well, maybe we finally have an answer as to why Bitdefender antivirus says the Delmar station websites are phishing sites ;). "We're not what you think we are."
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Well, maybe we finally have an answer as to why Bitdefender antivirus says the Delmar station websites are phishing sites ;). "We're not what you think we are."
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It simply looks like their SSL certificate expired and is since fixed.

When they launched the 95X simulcast on 92.9, Mark Litton noted that one of the AMs would be flipping to Oldies.
 
It simply looks like their SSL certificate expired and is since fixed.

When they launched the 95X simulcast on 92.9, Mark Litton noted that one of the AMs would be flipping to Oldies.
The BitDefender TrafficLight add-on still shows the same thing I posted above despite the SSL certificate showing as valid. It's been giving that warning for at least a year. Could be a false positive.
 
Guess I’m curious. Why are you listening to the AM station.
If 1580 flips to "True Oldies" then what will feed 92.9 in Columbus?? The translator at 92.9 should be repeating whatever is on 1580 WXGT.

Just checked 92.9 Columbus translator and it's still running 95.1's audio as "95X and 93X"
RDS data shows - WXGT FM - Mid Ohios Rock Network

The legal ID at TOH on 92.9 is IDing as WVXG Mount Gilead, WXGT Columbus and WQCD Delaware.
 
Saturday morning I noticed in the car (since I remembered to check) AM !580 is running "True Oldies Channel" however 92.9 Columbus is still running "93X and 95X" and the legal ID at the TOH on 92.9 does mention WXGT Columbus which is the call letters to the 1580 signal even though the AM appears to be running different programming.
 
If 1580 flips to "True Oldies" then what will feed 92.9 in Columbus?? The translator at 92.9 should be repeating whatever is on 1580 WXGT.
Neither of the 92.9 translators are permanently married to their AMs. All they have to do is file a primary station change with the FCC to be legal. And 1550 can legally be the parent for both W225CS Columbus and W225CM Delaware.

There are dozens if not hundreds of translators that haven't filed modifications to show their primary station as accurate (or if you spend any time on the Houston board you'll know there are plenty of translators there originating programming) and in both cases the FCC is not doing anything. The only people who care are us, the ultra-obsessive radiogeeks.
 
If 1580 flips to "True Oldies" then what will feed 92.9 in Columbus?? The translator at 92.9 should be repeating whatever is on 1580 WXGT.

Neither of the 92.9 translators are permanently married to their AMs. All they have to do is file a primary station change with the FCC to be legal. And 1550 can legally be the parent for both W225CS Columbus and W225CM Delaware.

What I find unfortunate is that, even as often as the subject comes up, a lot of the participants here operate on the erroneous presumption that every translator rebroadcasting an AM has to do so in perpetuity.

Perhaps I can offer some clarification:
Under former FCC Chair Ajit Pai's "AM Revitalization Act" there were two filing windows opened that allowed the move of an existing translator up to 250 miles in order to retransmit an AM station, but those licenses only mandated a four-year period of being attached to the originating station, and that period ended over four years ago.

Here is a more detailed explanation from @Michi's website:

Subsequent filing windows were opened for new translators for AM stations. The authorizations for stations constructed as a result of those windows are permanently tied to the AM station; they cannot change originating stations or be sold independently of the parent AM.

Again, Michi gives a more detailed explanation:

So: How do you know if a translator was "moved" in those first two windows? Here's an example, again using Michi's wonderfully extensive resources. From FCCdata.org, here is the page for W288DK, which had been retransmitting WWHK in Myrtle Beach SC but is presently off with a Silent STA:

Scroll down to the bottom of the left column and you can see that, prior to January 23, 2017 that translator was in Port Wentworth GA and retransmitting FM station WLFS. It was moved and became a translator for AM. But since it's now nine years since that move and it was moved rather than newly constructed, it can, as Lance said, legally retransmit any station whose primary service contour encompasses that of the translator. And that means that when they turn that translator back on, it may not necessarily be using WWHK as its originating station.

Now let's look at WXGT's translator, W225CS:

Oh, look! Another 2017 translator move-in. Has it been four years? Yes, it certainly has. So they are no longer required to have it retransmit WXGT. Which, finally, answers the OP's misconception.
 
I just find it odd that 1580 is broadcasting "93X" most of the day but then will just air the "True Oldies Channel" for a couple of hours, especially on Saturday....are they trying to honor some commitment to the syndicators of the True Oldies?

Delmar is odd.
 
Saturday morning I noticed in the car (since I remembered to check) AM !580 is running "True Oldies Channel" however 92.9 Columbus is still running "93X and 95X" and the legal ID at the TOH on 92.9 does mention WXGT Columbus which is the call letters to the 1580 signal even though the AM appears to be running different programming.
When are they typically running their legal IDs? I’ve never been able to hear them since they began simulcasting on ‘XGT.
 
When are they typically running their legal IDs? I’ve never been able to hear them since they began simulcasting on ‘XGT.

The "True Oldies Channel" usually runs for about two or three hours and then it just abruptly switches back to "93X".

Even I know that didn't answer the question asked ...
 
Even I know that didn't answer the question asked ...
95X (95.1) / 93X (92.9) legal ID's near the TOH - I have heard it. They ID as WVXG Mt. Gilead, WXGT Columbus and WQCD Delaware.

I have not heard a legal ID on 1580 when running "True Oldies Channel" as I have not been able to tune in near the TOH yet they do not seem to be running any other local imaging as they went out of network spots right into TOC.

Checked this Sunday evening and True Oldies is still on 1580.
 
Neither of the 92.9 translators are permanently married to their AMs. All they have to do is file a primary station change with the FCC to be legal. And 1550 can legally be the parent for both W225CS Columbus and W225CM Delaware.

There are dozens if not hundreds of translators that haven't filed modifications to show their primary station as accurate (or if you spend any time on the Houston board you'll know there are plenty of translators there originating programming) and in both cases the FCC is not doing anything. The only people who care are us, the ultra-obsessive radiogeeks.

I get it - I know the rules and Delmar/ICS is well within their rights to do as you said with 92.9 - The only thing that I feel is weird is running separate programming on 1580 but 92.9's downtown Columbus signal still IDing as WXGT Columbus - if they are truly feeding 92.9 as a child of 1550 WQCD they should probably drop the WXGT FM RDS text on 92.9 and drop WXGT Columbus out of the legal ID heard on WXVG/WQCD. But hey like you said - only 'radio geeks' really care about these things.
 


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