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K262DG files for frequency change

Mediafrog+ said:
KBBW translator K262DG 100.3 in Georgetown has filed to move to 94.3, citing interference from KJKK, KILT-FM, and KCYY:


Are the timeshare LPFMs KBPH and KCDR still on the air on 94.3 in Austin? Appears they are far enough away from the translator to avoid any significant clash.
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It's not that exciting... or even new. This is effectively the same application from 2022 that expired at the beginning of this year. Shortly after it was approved the first time, the owner died and I couldn't do facility changes or build outs.

100.3 is a noisy channel whenever there is ducting, which is more often than we would like. Those three co-channel stations in DFW, Houston, and SA are strong and very tall and are challenging when these conditions exist and you are lower power.

I heard one of those LPFMs over the air not long ago. I don't know which one it was or if the timeshare is still in effect.

That signal is very limited to central east Austin and this translator change will have no effect on it whatsoever.
 
Ryan Williams said:
It's not that exciting... or even new. This is effectively the same application from 2022 that expired at the beginning of this year. Shortly after it was approved the first time, the owner died and I couldn't do facility changes or build outs.

100.3 is a noisy channel whenever there is ducting, which is more often than we would like. Those three co-channel stations in DFW, Houston, and SA are strong and very tall and are challenging when these conditions exist and you are lower power.
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Add KRRV in Alexandria to the list for ETX. Poor Chuck, with his 97.9 translator in southeast Tyler, trying to capture KZQX OTA. You can turn on K250AJ, sitting right there in the CBS 19 parking lot, and you may hear country from KRRV and/or KILT-FM in Houston, regularly. Then there's Jack in Dallas blowing it away every time a cold front blows through.

About the only major 100.3 facility that doesn't give the translator fits is KCYY in SA. Not sure why Chuck doesn't feed it via a different method, but it can't have much cume or TSL at all, given the actual QX format that should be delivered to K250AJ is regularly covered up by one of the big rigs blowing in to town.
 
rosecitymedia said:
Add KRRV in Alexandria to the list for ETX. Poor Chuck, with his 97.9 translator in southeast Tyler, trying to capture KZQX OTA. You can turn on K250AJ, sitting right there in the CBS 19 parking lot, and you may hear country from KRRV and/or KILT-FM in Houston, regularly. Then there's Jack in Dallas blowing it away every time a cold front blows through.

About the only major 100.3 facility that doesn't give the translator fits is KCYY in SA. Not sure why Chuck doesn't feed it via a different method, but it can't have much cume or TSL at all, given the actual QX format that should be delivered to K250AJ is regularly covered up by one of the big rigs blowing in to town.
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It's a real problem being on a loud channel. Thankfully our other translators are on great, clean channels. We feed this translator in Georgetown directly, but KCYY is probably the one that gives us the most trouble in Williamson County (Georgetown/Round Rock).

Candidly, I run everything exactly to license and take my lumps even if that means a terrible signal for hours or days, but have heard tales over the years from various folks who will increase their translator power over the licensed amount to try to overcome the ducting. Truthfully, though, even if you doubled transmitter power out, it won't make a huge difference unless you are very close to the antenna. When the ducting conditions are right it is a tsunami of RF that even 500 or 1000 watts won't be able to overcome. Then you add in the fact that these big "neighbors" run HD, so even if a listener is close to the translator site and can hear your analog signal, during intense ducting, their radio is commandeered by HD signal from hundreds of miles away.
 
The frequency move more than halves the power and makes it directional so only Georgetown is covered. I’m sure 100.3 is an awful frequency regarding tropos but this doesn’t seem like it would do too much better considering how much coverage you lose. I could see some nights having issues with the Temple translator (which I can currently pick up on a web tuner in Johnson City with RDS), Austin LPFM (maybe??), KRVL, and KYOX.
 
So, without launching a highly-involved search this early in the morning, Ryan's move will still have to protect the channel 232 allocation existing in, I think it is, Cameron. It may be Kosse, but there is a reserved allocation there that is currently unused. Probably why he'll be sending all the heat he can muster at G-town.

Being over there in Centex, it's a little out of my slice of the Lone Star, but once upon a time there was some interest in building that allotment out. It's one of those allocations, like the 95.3 at Teague, that will likely never be built, but still must be protected for "future developments".
 
rosecitymedia said:
So, without launching a highly-involved search this early in the morning, Ryan's move will still have to protect the channel 232 allocation existing in, I think it is, Cameron. It may be Kosse, but there is a reserved allocation there that is currently unused. Probably why he'll be sending all the heat he can muster at G-town.

Being over there in Centex, it's a little out of my slice of the Lone Star, but once upon a time there was some interest in building that allotment out. It's one of those allocations, like the 95.3 at Teague, that will likely never be built, but still must be protected for "future developments".
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I am not recalling that allocation in Cameron. That said, there aren't any auctions scheduled and there are a number of winning bids from the last acution in 2021 that are not yet even built like the 102.7 allocaitons in Milano and Centerville. So who knows.

FM start ups in very small towns are going to be an even bigger uphill climb in the years ahead than they have been in the last decade.
 
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The frequency move more than halves the power and makes it directional so only Georgetown is covered. I’m sure 100.3 is an awful frequency regarding tropos but this doesn’t seem like it would do too much better considering how much coverage you lose. I could see some nights having issues with the Temple translator (which I can currently pick up on a web tuner in Johnson City with RDS), Austin LPFM (maybe??), KRVL, and KYOX.
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You are picking up K267CA Temple (101.3) from the Johnson City web tuner!? That's incredible and certainly beats the furtherest i've ever heard it.

We rarely ever have any issues on 105.9 in Waco or 101.3 in Killeen-Temple. They perform very well from an RF perspective. Waco used to be on 105.7 when we first launched it in 2014 and it was regularly overwhelmed by KHCB from Houston and KRNB from Decatur. Since we moved it to 105.9 about six years ago, there are basically never any tropo events.
 
Ryan Williams said:
You are picking up K267CA Temple (101.3) from the Johnson City web tuner!? That's incredible and certainly beats the furtherest i've ever heard it.

We rarely ever have any issues on 105.9 in Waco or 101.3 in Killeen-Temple. They perform very well from an RF perspective. Waco used to be on 105.7 when we first launched it in 2014 and it was regularly overwhelmed by KHCB from Houston and KRNB from Decatur. Since we moved it to 105.9 about six years ago, there are basically never any tropo events.
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I was picking up the 94.3 translator. But I have picked up the KBBW translators on 100.3 & 101.3 with RDS before. Once I’ve even heard the 105.9 translator over K-LOVE! That web tuner preform very well.

But I’m surprised that K-LOVE doesn’t give any issues.
 
Ryan Williams said:
I am not recalling that allocation in Cameron. That said, there aren't any auctions scheduled and there are a number of winning bids from the last acution in 2021 that are not yet even built like the 102.7 allocaitons in Milano and Centerville. So who knows.

FM start ups in very small towns are going to be an even bigger uphill climb in the years ahead than they have been in the last decade.
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So, I had a little time in between libations and looked it up.

BMPH-19950331IF was granted to Cameron, for channel 232 class A @ 3.1kW/141m in ..1995. It was actually a 1989-awarded CP for 267, also as an A, modified to operate on 94.3 in its last amendment. It expired, unbuilt, in 1996. Granted the initial call sign of KJKS. Applicant was Joseph Kent Smitherman.

I'm getting old. That's all this is, Ryan. I thought it was much later than that, like the 2005-10 range. Goes to show, I do better with memories of things that happened 30 years ago, than I do with my recollection of events that happened yesterday.

🤔 Did I turn those doggone clocks forward?
 


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