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Byron Allen gets the Colbert timeslot

Good for Byron Allen. I remember him from Real People and appearing on The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson. Reading his Wikipedia page, he's been in show business and comedy since he was teenager.
 
CBS says Byron Allen isn't the long term solution for late night. It's a one year deal. They're still interested in other ideas:

Sort of like Kimmel no longer being the long term solution for ABC with his one year deal.

CBS is going to keep its options open. No reason for them not to. It's not as if Allen as any leverage. CBS gets inexpensive content, Allen gets exposure. Success for this will be relative.
 
FWIW Disney also owns the theater where Jimmy does his show. However, Disney is in the property business, so they're not looking to give up the place any time soon. Unlike the folks at CBS. Ironically the theater was once known as the Hollywood Paramount Theater. Then renamed El Capitan.
 
As the article says, at one time, CBS turned over late night to Universal TV, producers of a scripted dramas. Universal owned those shows. I don't know if they paid CBS for the time or not, but CBS turned over the programming to an outside supplier. Just as they did with Worldwide Pants.

CBS has a long history of doing this. Back in the network radio days, the advertisers owned the prime time entertainment programming, not the network. In the 70s, CBS turned over the programming of its O&O radio stations to Mike Joseph's Hot Hits format. In the 2000s, CBS Radio did a national deal with SparkNet for the Jack format. So this isn't as big a deal as this article implies.
In the 30's and 40's, the networks all took fully sponsored shows produced by advertisers and their ad agencies. But they watched them carefully and cancelled those that did not perform

Mike Joseph was a consultant, no different than Bill Drake or others. Stations hired him to guide local staffs and to implement formats. But CBS or Mike's other clients did not "hand over" their stations to him. And when Hot Hits burnt out... at the time when agencies quit looking at teen numbers... the deal was cancelled.

"Jack" is a syndicated format. One size fits all in smaller markets, a jointly implemented format in larger ones. Again, the stations had/have the last say on content, promotions, imaging, etc.
 
This isn't really true. We'll know more after the network meeting with affiliates next month, but I'm not aware that it changes the relationship at all.

As the article says, at one time, CBS turned over late night to Universal TV, producers of a scripted dramas. Universal owned those shows. I don't know if they paid CBS for the time or not, but CBS turned over the programming to an outside supplier. Just as they did with Worldwide Pants.

CBS has a long history of doing this. Back in the network radio days, the advertisers owned the prime time entertainment programming, not the network. In the 70s, CBS turned over the programming of its O&O radio stations to Mike Joseph's Hot Hits format. In the 2000s, CBS Radio did a national deal with SparkNet for the Jack format. So this isn't as big a deal as this article implies.

I don't normally do this on this site but @TheBigA wrote in part:

"In the 70s, CBS turned over the programming of its O&O radio stations to Mike Joseph's Hot Hits format."

This is patently false. First, Mike Josephs' "Hot Hits" format was a product of the early 1980s, not of the 1970s. Second, with the exceptions of the 96.3 frequency in Chicago, the 98.1 frequency in Philadelphia (which was an early adopter of the Mike Josephs format), and the 93.1 ffrequency in Los Angeles (which, as far as I know, wasn't using the Mike Josephs package though it was top-40 for two years between 1983 and 1985), none of the CBS O&O's ever were top 40 during the 1970s.
 
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I don't normally do this on this site but @TheBigA wrote in part:

"In the 70s, CBS turned over the programming of its O&O radio stations to Mike Joseph's Hot Hits format."

This is patently false. First, Mike Josephs' "Hot Hits" format was a product of the early 1980s, not of the 1970s. Second, with the exception of the 96.3 frequency in Chicago (assuming that was owned by CBS at the time) and the 93.1 ffrequency in Los Angeles (which, as far as I know, wasn't using the Mike Josephs package though it was top-40 for two years between 1983 and 1985), none of the CBS O&O's ever were top 40 during the 1970s.
Correct. I remember Boston's WEEI-FM going Hot Hits with a new call of WHTT in 1983. It had been a soft rock station since 1977.
 
Good for Byron Allen. I remember him from Real People and appearing on The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson. Reading his Wikipedia page, he's been in show business and comedy since he was teenager.
I was wondering if this was the same Allen from "Real People." Back ten years or so ago, his "Real People" co-host (and show creator) John Barbour launched into a scathing rant about Allen on "Coast to Coast AM." His libelous accusations against Allen were such that host Noory dropped Barbour as a guest mid-show/mid sentence and banned him from future C2C shows. Word was that show was removed from the C2C's library of previous shows for members.

Would be interesting to hear Allen's side of that story.
 
I was wondering if this was the same Allen from "Real People." Back ten years or so ago, his "Real People" co-host (and show creator) John Barbour launched into a scathing rant about Allen on "Coast to Coast AM." His libelous accusations against Allen were such that host Noory dropped Barbour as a guest mid-show/mid sentence and banned him from future C2C shows. Word was that show was removed from the C2C's library of previous shows for members.

Would be interesting to hear Allen's side of that story.
What did he say about Byron?
 
This is patently false. First, Mike Josephs' "Hot Hits" format was a product of the early 1980s, not of the 1970s.

It's NOT "patently false." Here's what Mike Joseph's own page says about Hot Hits:

Hot Hits was a radio format created by consultant Mike Joseph in the 1970s. That concept, which helped spur the birth of what is now known as CHR, also revitalized the Top 40 format and would play a role in bringing the format to the FM band throughout the 1980s.
 


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