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Commentary: News/talk stations should broaden content beyond MAGA politics

Interesting commentary from Barrett Media regarding audience alienation from right-wing talk content:

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Here’s the irony that nobody in the industry wants to acknowledge. Many news/talk hosts will tell you, with a straight face, that someone like Jimmy Kimmel is bad for late-night television because his liberal politics alienate half the audience.

They’ll say he’s too one-sided, too partisan, too focused on a narrow worldview that doesn’t speak to a broad audience. Then they’ll turn around and talk for three or four hours about Donald Trump. Without a hint of self-awareness that they’re doing the exact same thing from the other direction.

The audience isn’t waiting around for someone to notice. According to a Media Insight Project survey, 63% of U.S. adults say they either often or sometimes actively avoid news stories about Trump. That number climbs to 68% among Democrats. But here’s what should alarm news/talk radio hosts, programmers, and producers most: 69% of independents say they work to avoid Trump stories. Even 40% of self-identified Republicans report the same behavior!

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Link: Why An All-Donald Trump, All The Time Approach is Bad for News/Talk Radio

I suppose the counter-argument could be that talk-radio listeners tend to listen for reinforcement rather than to learn anything new, but that's hardly a path for growth in a format whose practitioners already have to work hard just to keep from the audience from shrinking through attrition, diversion of attention to other sources, and outright alienation.
 
63% of U.S. adults say they either often or sometimes actively avoid news stories about Trump. That number climbs to 68% among Democrats. But here’s what should alarm news/talk radio hosts, programmers, and producers most: 69% of independents say they work to avoid Trump stories. Even 40% of self-identified Republicans report the same behavior!

Some talk radio stations have already taken steps in that direction. Here's an article I posted on the LA board about KFI:


This policy isn't recent. It began in the Rush Limbaugh era. iHeart moved all the syndicated political talk to KEIB.

But there are more talk stations that stay away from national politics. NJ101.5 in Trenton is an example. If you have local hosts, why not talk about local issues rather than national politics?

The other side to this is that the small minority that wants MAGA all the time is extremely passionate and loyal, so they'll stick with the station through long commercial breaks and other distractions. In that way, stations consistently get a core audience who look good in the 6+ numbers. They're going to get what they want somewhere. Why not get it from you? Along the way, that approach is alienating the mass that seeks other talk topics. They've mainly gone to podcasts.
 
What I'd like to see, especially on small town radio stations, is different political points of view being aired. I think that it would sure help our politics if people heard all sides of a political issue instead of just one. Sadly, that is not what most listeners want to hear...
 
What I'd like to see, especially on small town radio stations, is different political points of view being aired. I think that it would sure help our politics if people heard all sides of a political issue instead of just one. Sadly, that is not what most listeners want to hear...

I have mixed feelings about that. What if we were talking about music genres. If like 80s pop music, I don't want hip hop on the play list.
 
Some talk radio stations have already taken steps in that direction. Here's an article I posted on the LA board about KFI:
But many others have gone the other way, like KOA/Denver and KRLD/Dallas. Basically, when budget cuts strike, conservative talk is the usual answer.

What I'd like to see, especially on small town radio stations, is different political points of view being aired. I think that it would sure help our politics if people heard all sides of a political issue instead of just one. Sadly, that is not what most listeners want to hear...
It's very difficult for small towns to do, because there are basically no middle of the road or liberal hosts available in syndication, and in a great many markets outside the top 50, there are no local shows at all on the news/talk station. Or perhaps if they do it is basically an extended newscast.
 
It's very difficult for small towns to do, because there are basically no middle of the road or liberal hosts available in syndication, and in a great many markets outside the top 50, there are no local shows at all on the news/talk station. Or perhaps if they do it is basically an extended newscast.

Not to mention in isolated small towns < 20k in population, how do you fill at least the daytime hours with enough local news and talk, covering local and state issues with live local hosts while being able to afford their salaries? And what can you do to get a diminishing radio listenership to listen AND call in to actively participate on a consistent basis?
 
Interesting commentary from Barrett Media regarding audience alienation from right-wing talk content:

(quote)
Here’s the irony that nobody in the industry wants to acknowledge. Many news/talk hosts will tell you, with a straight face, that someone like Jimmy Kimmel is bad for late-night television because his liberal politics alienate half the audience.

They’ll say he’s too one-sided, too partisan, too focused on a narrow worldview that doesn’t speak to a broad audience. Then they’ll turn around and talk for three or four hours about Donald Trump. Without a hint of self-awareness that they’re doing the exact same thing from the other direction.

The audience isn’t waiting around for someone to notice. According to a Media Insight Project survey, 63% of U.S. adults say they either often or sometimes actively avoid news stories about Trump. That number climbs to 68% among Democrats. But here’s what should alarm news/talk radio hosts, programmers, and producers most: 69% of independents say they work to avoid Trump stories. Even 40% of self-identified Republicans report the same behavior!

(end quote)

Link: Why An All-Donald Trump, All The Time Approach is Bad for News/Talk Radio

I suppose the counter-argument could be that talk-radio listeners tend to listen for reinforcement rather than to learn anything new, but that's hardly a path for growth in a format whose practitioners already have to work hard just to keep from the audience from shrinking through attrition, diversion of attention to other sources, and outright alienation.
True in some parts of the country. However there are NPR News/talk affiliates out there that carry other topics besides Trump and allies. If there are news/talk audiences out there but not within the Trump voters segment at least some of them are listening to NPR affiliates like KQED-FM and WAMU-FM which ranks as the most listened and places where the most donations to NPR affiliates in their cities like San Francisco and Washington DC. There are talk shows like Forum, Science Friday, On Point, 1a, and Fresh Air. Those talk shows have a wide array of topics that are not all political.

But how to get Salem news/talk stations and others like them to go do other content besides Trump is a fools errand here. But then again how to get conservatives to listen to other stuff besides trump is easier said than done in some parts of the country.
 
I'll admit, I avoid news stories about Trump. In the mornings I tune away from a music station that I enjoy at all other times of day because they run a top-of-the-hour NBC newscast that always leads off with a Trump story that turns out to be just another one of his opponents hurling breathless accusations. They bump actual substantive news stories down lower in the stack in deference to that.

I have long thought that there is a market out there for a nonpolitical general topic show to give listeners a break from the politics. Somebody like the late Doug Hoerth here in Pittsburgh. I'm kind of surprised to have not seen much of that.

For whatever reason listeners on the Right have remained fairly loyal to their talk radio, whereas on the Left we saw Air America fail spectacularly. It would appear that those on the Left prefer to consume their content on other platforms.
 
It's hard to avoid right-wing politics when your station's morning talk show host is literally a right-wing politician who has run for office multiple times (and lost), like Curtis Sliwa on WOR or Bill Spadea on WKXW.
 
When discussing this subject, I think it might be wise to tell the story of what happened at KNFT, a local talk station licensed to Bayard (near Silver City), New Mexico at 950 kHz in 2004.



Obviously, this was long before President Trump took office the first time (2016) and no, I haven't heard of this happening elsewhere. (In fact, I think many small town stations took it as a sign that if they aired any local liberal hosts, their advertisers could do to them what KNFT's advertisers did to it.)

Also, for the record, since that time, KNFT-AM has dropped all talk programming (it's oldies now), and there is now an NPR affiliate (center left) and a community non-commercial outlet (that carries some Pacifica programming) licensed to Silver City. And, of course, local advertisers are getting harder to find for talk radio shows, no matter what the flavor. Still, I think that what happened to KNFT has served as a warning to other small town commercial radio stations where conservative political values are strong and where there is no room for tolerance of other voices.
 
What I'd like to see, especially on small town radio stations, is different political points of view being aired. I think that it would sure help our politics if people heard all sides of a political issue instead of just one. Sadly, that is not what most listeners want to hear...
Are there different political views in most small towns? You would certainly not think so.
 
When discussing this subject, I think it might be wise to tell the story of what happened at KNFT, a local talk station licensed to Bayard (near Silver City), New Mexico at 950 kHz in 2004.


That's sad. I'm as right wing as they come but I believe both left and right deserve a platform. This trend of trying to destroy businesses just because they have an opinion they don't like it ridiculous. I'll happily go to both Starbucks and Chick-fil-A because I like what they serve. Their politics is irrelevant
 
I'll happily go to both Starbucks and Chick-fil-A because I like what they serve. Their politics is irrelevant
Starbucks' only "politics" to speak of lately is trying their hardest to prevent their own employees from forming and joining unions.

In 2012 they supported same-sex marriage and in 2015 they didn't put "Merry Christmas" on their holiday-themed cups, but that's really all you have to go by as proof that they're supposed to be a massively liberal company.
 
Starbucks' only "politics" to speak of lately is trying their hardest to prevent their own employees from forming and joining unions.

In 2012 they supported same-sex marriage and in 2015 they didn't put "Merry Christmas" on their holiday-themed cups, but that's really all you have to go by as proof that they're supposed to be a massively liberal company.
Starbucks just moved a headquarters to Tennessee, hardly a progressive bastion these days.
 
The traditional, polite topics to avoid in casual conversation—often cited to maintain harmony, reduce tension, and prevent unintended offense—are politics, religion, sex, and money. These subjects are considered deeply personal, controversial, and capable of ruining friendships.

My wife and I were traveling recently and during our bicycle ride we saw a table set up for a religious group. They want to convert people to join their religion. We avoided them.
 
That's sad. I'm as right wing as they come but I believe both left and right deserve a platform. This trend of trying to destroy businesses just because they have an opinion they don't like it ridiculous. I'll happily go to both Starbucks and Chick-fil-A because I like what they serve. Their politics is irrelevant
In the same breath, business should be apolitical. If they alienate potential customers for taking a certain political stance or supporting certain candidates/office holders, then they should reap the consequences (ex.: MyPillow).

As for myself: I agree with Starbucks' views and values, but I don't go there often because I don't drink coffee. On the other hand, Chick-fil-A gets none of my money. Not only do I oppose their politics, I also don't like their food. I'll starve try gas station sushi rather than eat there.
 
Commercial "Liberal talk" has been tried before and has failed. Most of it is just a mouthpiece for the DNC-just like the Alphabet networks. And "conservative" talk is not all in lockstep..e.g. the Iranian situation, the RINO Republicans, the deficit/debt, drug legalization, etc. There is differences in opinion between conservative talk show hosts-you just need to listen.
 
There is differences in opinion between conservative talk show hosts-you just need to listen.

Unfortunately none of them are entertaining anymore. That's what distinguished early Rush. That's what used to distinguish conservative talk. They used to be entertainers. Now its all ideology, and that's not funny or entertaining. Radio is supposed to be entertaining. We've already talked about it being a bad sales environment. You might as well listen to preaching radio. WWE and UFC are more entertaining.

That's why the topic of this thread is to broaden the content beyond politics. Because talking about politics isn't entertaining, even when you agree with it. There are lots of other things to talk about. We need to get beyond ideology. A day will come when we realize we all have to live together. That means there needs to be compromise and consensus. Neither exist in talk radio right now. The fact that there are differences among conservative hosts demonstrates that even they are getting bored with it.
 
Commercial "Liberal talk" has been tried before and has failed.
Mostly on second- or third-rate AM signals; liberals are generally younger than conservatives, and thus were earlier to ditch AM.
And "conservative" talk is not all in lockstep..e.g. the Iranian situation, the RINO Republicans, the deficit/debt, drug legalization, etc. There is differences in opinion between conservative talk show hosts-you just need to listen.
The only "difference in opinion" you'll hear from conservative talk hosts these days is whether to lick Trump's boots, or just shine them.
 


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