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¡Hola! ¡Es Oficial! La Nueva 925!

J

JohnnyDrama

After x-tenssive reasearch and constant bribing I found the info I was hunting down that may end speculation as of the future of 925 Outlaw- feel free to do some reconisense work of your own and look for "La Nueva 925"! (Okay, so there was not any real bribing or anything; just random searches on WhoIs until I came up with something...good thing I took spanish in high school!)

yes...Spanish radio on the FM dial. It's bad enuff we are losing Cowhead and Brent but to have to lose it to spanish radio is unacceptable. So join me in letting the powers that be know how we all feel....pissed and unappreciative!



Always Causing.....Drama
 
> After x-tenssive reasearch and constant bribing I found the
> info I was hunting down that may end speculation as of the
> future of 925 Outlaw- feel free to do some reconisense work
> of your own and look for "La Nueva 925"! (Okay, so there was
> not any real bribing or anything; just random searches on
> WhoIs until I came up with something...good thing I took
> spanish in high school!)
>
> yes...Spanish radio on the FM dial. It's bad enuff we are
> losing Cowhead and Brent but to have to lose it to spanish
> radio is unacceptable. So join me in letting the powers that
> be know how we all feel....pissed and unappreciative!
>
>
>
> Always Causing.....Drama








You are 100% correct. Thanks for finding this !



http://www.networksolutions.com/who...geKeyPage=/whois/entry.jhtml&_requestid=30932

WHOIS Record For
LaNueva925.com

Registrant: Make this info private
Infinity Broadcasting
5510 W. Gray Street
Suite 130
Tampa, FL 33609
US

Domain Name: LANUEVA925.COM

Administrative Contact , Technical Contact :
Infinity Broadcasting
[email protected]
5510 W. Gray Street
Suite 130
Tampa, FL 33609
US
Phone: 813-287-0995
Fax: 813-637-7990

Record expires on 05-Aug-2006
Record created on 05-Aug-2005
Database last updated on 05-Aug-2005

Domain servers in listed order: Manage DNS

NS1.WORLDNIC.COM 216.168.228.3
NS2.WORLDNIC.COM 216.168.225.132




IP Address: 216.168.224.70 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)
IP Location: US(UNITED STATES)-VIRGINIA-MANASSAS
DMOZ no listings
Y! Directory: see listings
Data as of: 21-Jun-2004
 
Re: Hang on there... what if??

One thing you learn in the radio business is nothing is "official" until some kind of press release or announcement from the station ownership is released. What I wonder is... is this whole Spanish thing is some kind of swerve or smokescreen or will Infinity really flip 92.5 to Spanish? I know the manager is in place, the domain's been registered to Gray Street, and Cow's been talking it up all week. It seems pretty certain based on industy talk that it's really gonna happen. If so, I'm guessing Monday after this weekend's Toby Keith concert and Brickyard 400 broadcast. However.... Wouldn't be great if it's all a joke leading up to a format change but one that attacks the CC and Cox rockers ala "Power Pig" style? Maybe a new alternative rocker that puts the squeeze on 97X and 98Rock? ....Ahhh damn, the good ole days.... Sorry, I was dreaming again!
 
Hum.....

I'm still not convinced. It could be some sort of a work. A few bucks gets you a domain name and it was just registered yesterday. Maybe I've been in the buisiness too long, something just doesn't add up to me. This whole things has just be a little to out in the open. Or maybe the powers that be just don't care and want the publicity to bring the curious. And, this may mean nothing, but it's "johnny's" first post on here so that always makes me leary when they have some ground breaking news. I guess we'll all know come Monday.

riggie
 
Re: Hum.....

> I'm still not convinced. It could be some sort of a work. A
> few bucks gets you a domain name and it was just registered
> yesterday. Maybe I've been in the buisiness too long,
> something just doesn't add up to me. This whole things has
> just be a little to out in the open. Or maybe the powers
> that be just don't care and want the publicity to bring the
> curious. And, this may mean nothing, but it's "johnny's"
> first post on here so that always makes me leary when they
> have some ground breaking news. I guess we'll all know come
> Monday.
>
> riggie
>
I'm with Rig. I will believe it when I hear some espanol for s few days straight.
Sounds like a gimmik to me.
 
Re: Hum.....

> I'm still not convinced. It could be some sort of a work. A
> few bucks gets you a domain name and it was just registered
> yesterday. Maybe I've been in the buisiness too long,
> something just doesn't add up to me. This whole things has
> just be a little to out in the open. Or maybe the powers
> that be just don't care and want the publicity to bring the
> curious. And, this may mean nothing, but it's "johnny's"
> first post on here so that always makes me leary when they
> have some ground breaking news. I guess we'll all know come
> Monday.
>
> riggie
>

Clever spelling of "buisiness"

Rather odd that cowhead and brent would link Opie and Anthony on their personal website... http://www.cowheadandbrent.com Infinity doesnt like such things as XM, considering Clear Channel owns a piece of it....<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by ratkill1 on 08/07/05 01:45 AM.</FONT></P>
 
Re: Hang on there... what if??

> One thing you learn in the radio business is nothing is
> "official" until some kind of press release or announcement
> from the station ownership is released. What I wonder is...
> is this whole Spanish thing is some kind of swerve or
> smokescreen or will Infinity really flip 92.5 to Spanish? I
> know the manager is in place, the domain's been registered
> to Gray Street, and Cow's been talking it up all week. It
> seems pretty certain based on industy talk that it's really
> gonna happen. If so, I'm guessing Monday after this
> weekend's Toby Keith concert and Brickyard 400 broadcast.
> However.... Wouldn't be great if it's all a joke leading up
> to a format change but one that attacks the CC and Cox
> rockers ala "Power Pig" style? Maybe a new alternative
> rocker that puts the squeeze on 97X and 98Rock? ....Ahhh
> damn, the good ole days.... Sorry, I was dreaming again!
>
I have to defend Infinity here. They are thinking forward. Why would they want to get into a crowded rock field? And, why should they be the No. 3 Country button? Props to Infinity for playing for the future. With the growing Hispanic population, this will be a very smart move.
 
Okay now....

Not being inside the "Golden Circle" how many other Infinity properties are spanish formatted?

And if so what is the lean? Regional Mexican? Not really a profitable fit for Tampa Bay..Cuban? Better, but who to get to produce a full time Cuban format? Word of some hirings would have leaked out.

Puerto Rican?...Barcelonean? This is like flipping to an "American" format..what would that be hip-hop, oldies, country?

And the name...LA NUEVA 925? The New 925???...puh-leeeeze that's stupid..come up with something more original like "Musica Radio Progressamundoooo La Voz del Sol!"

(((((en estereo)))))

Dublavay, EE - OOH - OOOH..con Safety Harburro..los servicia del radio corpouracione Infinity!

AYYY-IEEE!
 
Only time will tell...

Well, now I'm doubting myself for doubting myself. I had already posted a long story about how I couldn't trust JohnnyDrama because this was his first post, and there was no proof that what he was saying was true, but after the whois listing was posted, I took it as gospel and apologized to Johnny while retracting my previous post.

I don't know if we will know for sure what's going to happen with WYUU for a couple of weeks. The attention that this proposed flip has brought to the station is amazing. If we were in the middle of sweeps, I wouldn't doubt that it's a stunt, but John Q. Public doesn't know the difference. The station could ride this wave for awhile, rather than making a flip earlier if that's what they had originally planned. Cowhead has always been very honest with his audience, and made it clear that this is not a stunt, and he's ticked off that Infinity hasn't been up front with him. The uncertainty is wearing on his patience, and he's not the kind of guy to let this sort of thing ruin his credibility with his audience. Therefore, the only thing that I believe is that Cowhead is as much in the dark as the rest of us.

I'm waiting with Cowhead, Brent, Jason, Amy and you to see what's going to happen. Mr. Albertini isn't talking, so we just have to wait.... Dammit!
 
Re: Okay now....

It's not that much of a longshot since we still hear "There's a new outlaw in town." and "Tampa Bay's Home for NASCAR...The new Outlaw 92.5" La Nueva will feel right at home for about two years by my calculations.

Other stations do it too. I just heard "Tampa Bay's classic hit station... the new 107.3 The Eagle."

I wouldn't be surprised if I heard "The New WQYK" even though they have seen many of their "cradle to grave" listeners actually go from the cradle to the grave. Maybe there should be a limit on how long a station can be called "new"
 
Format

I would assume that the programmers would try to get all hispanics to listen to it. There are many latin stations that call themselves La Nueva, so that would not be out of the norm.

I am surprised they are not going to call it "El Zol" like Infinity called their new station (as of January) in Washington DC. I hear the station is doing great with a Spanish Top 40 format. That format would be smart because it would allow them to play music for Mexican pop tastes as well as Cuban, Puerto Rican and Dominican.

Since this would be Tampa's first latin station you wouldn't want to specialize with an all Tropical or all Regional Mexican. I would not be surprised if that were to follow from CC. I have noticed that, nation-wide, where there is one Spanish station another soon follows.

I hope they provide some special Spanish Rock programming on the weekends. Maybe I am asking for too much?
 
Re: Hum.....

It would be one stupid gimmick. If Cowhead and Brent are lying (which I doubt sreiously) they would have ruined their credibility. I doubt their fans will be too happy.

Also, why is it impossible for them to go Spanish. There are already four (4) stations in the area:

97.5 rimshot but comes in clear throughout east Tampa.
99.5 big daddy
103.5 powerhouse
106.5 quality rimshot comes in most of the time in S. Tampa.

With latin they would generate a new revenue stream and own the whole pie. Remember, a three way split (92.5, 99.5, 103.5) will create a deep cut in revenues.

Example: When I negotiate deals, I do not have much wiggle room to increase a discount rate with a monopoly except for committed volume. With two competitors I'll offer you 40% percent of what I paid the monopoly and the most I'll offer is a small level of commitment. With a three way, I would want free ads on another station for spending on the primary. :)

I love capitalism. God bless Adam Smith.
 
Re: Hang on there... what if??

> I have to defend Infinity here. They are thinking forward.
> Why would they want to get into a crowded rock field? And,
> why should they be the No. 3 Country button? Props to
> Infinity for playing for the future. With the growing
> Hispanic population, this will be a very smart move.
>

I'd have to agree, no room for another rocker in Tampa (isn't that why Thunder flipped?). With 97X's lock on the younger rock demo, the older folks split by Eagle and The Bone, and 98 Rock scrambling to find some sort of niche in between, there ain't much left in the trough. Country and Oldies are right out, and any other attempt at a talk format will most likely live at 1010 once Stern leaves. Spanish language programming on 92.5 has great potential, so long as they can capture Tampa's unique hispanic flavor. And they will be the only game in town (as Spanish language FM's go). But what music format? I would lean toward a music-driven CHR, with a mix of english and spanish language music.
 
Re: Format

> I would assume that the programmers would try to get all
> hispanics to listen to it. There are many latin stations
> that call themselves La Nueva, so that would not be out of
> the norm.
>
> I am surprised they are not going to call it "El Zol" like
> Infinity called their new station (as of January) in
> Washington DC. I hear the station is doing great with a
> Spanish Top 40 format. That format would be smart because it
> would allow them to play music for Mexican pop tastes as
> well as Cuban, Puerto Rican and Dominican.
>
> Since this would be Tampa's first latin station you wouldn't
> want to specialize with an all Tropical or all Regional
> Mexican. I would not be surprised if that were to follow
> from CC. I have noticed that, nation-wide, where there is
> one Spanish station another soon follows.
>
> I hope they provide some special Spanish Rock programming on
> the weekends. Maybe I am asking for too much?
>


I'm not sure how up-to-date this is, but a quick check on the internet turned up the following stations broadcasting on AM in Spanish in Tampa Bay:
WRMD(680) WMGG(820) WQBN(1300) WAMA(1550) and WLCC(760)

Obviously they aren't all the same format (in the sense that not all English speaking stations are the same format), But a well programmed FM could do some damage in the existing Spanish market. My guess is that at least one or two of these stations will flip in the next year if La Nueva cuts away at their niche. Translation... a flip to Spanish for WYUU could actually create jobs for anglophones on the AM band.

I agree with the Spanish rock programming idea. Stations like KSSE 107.1 "Super Estrella" in Los Angeles and XHMORE 98.9 "mas rock en español" broadcasting from south of the border to San Diego play a lot of music that sounds like '80s "hair bands", but it's all original spanish language stuff.(Imagine a mixture of WXGL and WPOI, but in Spanish.)It would be refreshing to hear some Spanish music thrown into the mix that could appeal to folks who wouldn't normally appreciate the traditional latino sounds.

If the flip happens I'm going to miss "Outlaw" as will my friends who work there, but there has got to be a silver lining here. Besides... it's still all just speculation at this point anyway.

Now I'm just going to sit back and listen & wait.
 
Infinity and Spanish

> Not being inside the "Golden Circle" how many other Infinity
> properties are spanish formatted?

At this point, Infinity has committed to 'going Spanish' on some properties. Somewhat along the lines of CC, but obviously not as much, as it seems they're more concerned with "Jack" than Spanish..

This has included flipping WHFS to Spanish in DC, also 105.9 in Fresno, a station that was Spanish, went to English Talk to accomodate Stern, but flipped back to Spanish when Stern announced he was leaving....I think the current arrangement in Fresno (until Stern is gone) is they're running the KOAM in the morning, and when he's done they do a 'culture shock' on you, y "ponen musica", if you know what I mean..Yeah, fun stuff, right?

They also bought a 10% stake in Spanish Broadcasting System (WCMQ-FM 92.3, WRMA 106.7, WSKQ 97.9 New York, among others), which is expandable to 15% in the future.).

> And if so what is the lean? Regional Mexican?.....Cuban?.....Puerto Rican?...

Seems Tampa Spanish radio today (to my ears, anyways), mimics Orlando's at best, and that is Puerto Rican..There are a couple of Mexican stations (760, 1550), but probably an FM won't go there...Yes, there was a time when it was decidely Cuban....I work (and have worked) here in Miami with people who were a part of the "first wave" of Spanish radio, Cuban it was for sure..The days of WYOU on 1550, WAMA was still on 860, 1300 during the WTYM days....But that's long gone, and with WMGG (tropical/Puerto Rican) on 820 seeming to have the most "mass appeal" of sounds, I'd expect something on FM to try to eat that lunch....CC's "Rumba" in Orlando as I understand it is essentially just that. In the end, a dumb guess, but we'll see....FYI though, Albertini, GM, is Cuban-American, and his experience in Spanish radio in this state was at the Heftel/Miami cluster, with AM signals like WAQI and WQBA, which almost exclusively target Cubans. Doesn't mean anything because he was at SBS/Chicago, too, at a station targeting Mexicans.

> And the name...LA NUEVA 925? The New 925???...

I think it's KSCA in LA that's been "La Nueva 101.9" since about 96 or 97....Thinking maybe they're meaning "Nueva" in the "This frequency now belongs to Latinos, not Anglos anymore", and not "this is a new format"...We have a "Nuevo Herald" Spanish companion to the Miami Herald, which has been "Nuevo" since 1987. Just a guess.
 
Another Reason To Believe It

Besides ruining their credibility with the audience, this being simply a false move would potentially anger the Hispanic community in the area, one of the fastest growing segments throughout the area. You don't want to get that large community angry with you, especially if you may want to rely on them at some time in the future.<P ID="signature">______________
Robert Charles Pickering
Lakeland, Florida</P>
 
Re: How wpuld a rumor...

> Besides ruining their credibility with the audience, this
> being simply a false move would potentially anger the
> Hispanic community in the area, one of the fastest growing
> segments throughout the area. You don't want to get that
> large community angry with you, especially if you may want
> to rely on them at some time in the future.
>

How would a rumor on message boards anger the Hispanic comunity, which has 4 or 5 other Spanish language options anyway?
 
Re: Okay now....

> Not being inside the "Golden Circle" how many other Infinity
> properties are spanish formatted?

Two in Fresno and the new one in washington, DC, in association with SBS.
>
> And if so what is the lean? Regional Mexican? Not really a
> profitable fit for Tampa Bay

That is the big growth area. The Cuban population dates back to the exile in the late 1800's and isw not Spanish speaking.

>..Cuban? Better, but who to get
> to produce a full time Cuban format? Word of some hirings
> would have leaked out.

There is no Cuban or Puerto Ricn format. The options are tropical, tropical & rhythmic, AC or Hurban as well as Regional Mexican.
>
> Puerto Rican?...Barcelonean? This is like flipping to an
> "American" format..what would that be hip-hop, oldies,
> country?

Since the two Infinity consultants who are in Tampa now are Pio Ferro and George Mier (one Cuban, the other Puerto Rican), I suspect tropical or tropical and rhythmic.
>
> And the name...LA NUEVA 925? The New 925???...puh-leeeeze
> that's stupid..come up with something more original like
> "Musica Radio Progressamundoooo La Voz del Sol!"

La Nueva seems to work for the #1 Spanish stations in San Diego, LA, Phoenix, etc.
 
Re: Format

> I would assume that the programmers would try to get all
> hispanics to listen to it.

No way to do that. Hispanics are as fragmented in music taste as anyone else.
>
> I am surprised they are not going to call it "El Zol" like
> Infinity called their new station (as of January) in
> Washington DC. I hear the station is doing great with a
> Spanish Top 40 format. That format would be smart because it
> would allow them to play music for Mexican pop tastes as
> well as Cuban, Puerto Rican and Dominican.

Zol in DC is mostly tropical, aimed at Central Americans. It is predominantly salsa, merengue and bachata with a bunch of reggaetón. Very little pop or ballad (with exception of a few Central American artists like Alvaro Torres).
>
> Since this would be Tampa's first latin station you wouldn't
> want to specialize with an all Tropical or all Regional
> Mexican. I would not be surprised if that were to follow
> from CC.

There is no way to appeal to all Hispanics. The only place there is commnality is in a segment of 12-29 where reggaetón is liked by folks of all origins. Otherwise, Mexicnas hate salsa, Puerto Ricans hate Mexican music and everyone hates rock en español.
>
> I hope they provide some special Spanish Rock programming on
> the weekends. Maybe I am asking for too much?

Name me one successful Spanish rock station. Hint: there is exactly one.
>
 
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