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#1 Songs on Hot 100 that should not be number one.

Here's another one that didn't even go to the top, but it was a one hit wonder from 1991 that also didn't have to go to #1 at all, & it was P.A.S.S.I.O.N, which the song really sucked, but made it to #2 on Billboard that year.
 
Or how about Love Theme From Romeo & Juliet from 1969 (#1 from 1969) by Henry Mancini & The Streak (#1 from 1974) by Ray Stevens? I know those songs are rarely heard on the radio, but they didn't have to #1 songs if they sounded horrible on the radio.
 
Someone should go back and retroactively separate out all the songs on the one unified Top 40 of the olden days into a rock list, a pop list, and a "Music of Your Life" list. Nowadays, there seems to be a list for each genre of music, which makes much more sense. Having songs like "Dominque" competing against "Satisfaction" is just plain stupid. It's like trying to rank the best sports teams with football, baseball, basketball, and hockey teams all on the same list. It's a fool's game.
 
dgendvil said:
Or how about Love Theme From Romeo & Juliet from 1969 (#1 from 1969) by Henry Mancini & The Streak (#1 from 1974) by Ray Stevens?

I'll take "Romeo.." anytime over "Streak". Just a plain better song, period.
 
Talk_Dude said:
Having songs like "Dominque" competing against "Satisfaction" is just plain stupid. It's like trying to rank the best sports teams with football, baseball, basketball, and hockey teams all on the same list. It's a fool's game.

But no one would ever rank Dominique with Satisfaction anyways, one is foreign and they were #1 in two different years and music eras (pre-64 vs. British).
 
oldies76 said:
Talk_Dude said:
Having songs like "Dominque" competing against "Satisfaction" is just plain stupid. It's like trying to rank the best sports teams with football, baseball, basketball, and hockey teams all on the same list. It's a fool's game.

But no one would ever rank Dominique with Satisfaction anyways, one is foreign and they were #1 in two different years and music eras (pre-64 vs. British).

You totally, completely, and utterly miss the point. I'm guessing you work for Clear Channel.
 
I personally enjoyed "Everybody Loves Somebody" followed by "House Of The Rising Sun", I'll say It again why are we dissecting #1 songs, obviously, they were Million sellers and the fact that a couple of folks who don't like them, aint gonna diminish their legacy in the least bit.......I said It when the thread started, and I'll say It again how can one negative opinon not make it worthy of its achievment. . If the subject was "Number One Songs I Hated" not "#1 Songs that Should Not Have Been Number One"...then that is something you can write about for 50 plus pages.
 
oldies76 said:
Talk_Dude said:
I'm guessing you work for Clear Channel.

Actually I don't. Explain differently.

No explanation is necessary. You totally, completely, and utterly missed the point. I assumed anyone that clueless worked for Clear Channel.
 
Talk_Dude said:
oldies76 said:
Talk_Dude said:
Having songs like "Dominque" competing against "Satisfaction" is just plain stupid. It's like trying to rank the best sports teams with football, baseball, basketball, and hockey teams all on the same list. It's a fool's game.
But no one would ever rank Dominique with Satisfaction anyways, one is foreign and they were #1 in two different years and music eras (pre-64 vs. British).
You totally, completely, and utterly miss the point. I'm guessing you work for Clear Channel.
Actually, I thought he made the point quite well. You DON'T play "Satisfaction" and "Dominique" back to back! I seriously doubt that anyone did back then, either, because of the generational change that took place between the two. The British invasion swept from the airwaves nearly everything that had come before it. "Dominique" was an example of what was wrong with top 40 radio in 1963, and why we needed a British invasion to set things right again. You wouldn't play "Dominique" and "Satisfaction" back-to-back anymore than you would play "Dominique" and "Macarena" back-to-back.

The above examples were a little before my time, but it always annoyed me when I was growing up that top 40 radio played so much country crossover back then. Some of it I liked, and some of it actually grew on me, but why was "Elvira" pushed so hard on what was supposedly "pop" radio?
 
I cannot answer about "Elvira" except for the fact that the movie "Urban Cowboy" one year earlier was riding high, and maybe the Oak Ridge Boys wanted to hang on before the fad went away.

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Talk_Dude said:
No explanation is necessary. You totally, completely, and utterly missed the point. I assumed anyone that clueless worked for Clear Channel.

Ha..you assumed wrong and yes, I did get the point. Dominique and Satisfaction....you don't play back to back..Dominque and Volare...of course.
 
oldies76 said:
Talk_Dude said:
No explanation is necessary. You totally, completely, and utterly missed the point. I assumed anyone that clueless worked for Clear Channel.

Ha..you assumed wrong and yes, I did get the point. Dominique and Satisfaction....you don't play back to back..Dominque and Volare...of course.

Still, you're totally, completely, and utterly wrong. The song "Dominque" should be played on a "Music of Your Life" station, and the song "Satisfaction" should be played on a rock oldies station. It's not about playing them back-to-back, it's about playing them on the same station. More specifically, it's about splitting the old ranking lists from the 1960's into separate charts, so that Music of Your Life songs don't compete on the same list with rock songs.
 
Markieo said:
Let's see..."You Light Up My Life", "The Candy Man", "The Night Chicago Died", "Lovin' You", "My Ding-A-Ling", "The Streak", "Billy, Don't Be A Hero", "Kung Fu Fighting", "I Am Woman", "Brand New Key", "One Bad Apple", "Ben", "When I Need You", "Having My Baby", many disco records...and that's just the '70's! :D

Wow, you just named 1/4 of my playlist at San Francisco's 70's HITS! I can't say I crank-up each and every one of these when they play, but I can assure you, good/bad/indifferent, there IS an audience for them!
 
Talk_Dude said:
The song "Dominque" should be played on a "Music of Your Life" station, and the song "Satisfaction" should be played on a rock oldies station. It's not about playing them back-to-back, it's about playing them on the same station.

"Dominique" is an oldie just like "Satisfaction". So an oldie should air on an "oldies" station. Now the question is, do I rotate "Dominique" regularly, as I would "Satisfaction"...of course not. Would I play "Dominique" during a specialty show featuring the early 60's or the best of 1963?? Yes I would. So the answer to your statement is both songs qualify as oldies and BOTH should be played on oldies stations, AS NEEDED.

"Music of your Life" relates to easy-listening standards that were mainly produced prior to 1955.
 
BnRinBayArea said:
but I can assure you, good/bad/indifferent, there IS an audience for them!

Any song that was a hit in the past, has some audience for them today, no matter the song. Just as many people would like to hear the rarely played "Afternoon Delight" as the overplayed "Low Rider". I agree with you 100%.
 
Talk_Dude said:
Still, you're totally, completely, and utterly wrong. The song "Dominque" should be played on a "Music of Your Life" station, and the song "Satisfaction" should be played on a rock oldies station. It's not about playing them back-to-back, it's about playing them on the same station. More specifically, it's about splitting the old ranking lists from the 1960's into separate charts, so that Music of Your Life songs don't compete on the same list with rock songs.
oldies76 said:
Talk_Dude said:
The song "Dominque" should be played on a "Music of Your Life" station, and the song "Satisfaction" should be played on a rock oldies station. It's not about playing them back-to-back, it's about playing them on the same station.
"Dominique" is an oldie just like "Satisfaction". So an oldie should air on an "oldies" station. Now the question is, do I rotate "Dominique" regularly, as I would "Satisfaction"...of course not. Would I play "Dominique" during a specialty show featuring the early 60's or the best of 1963?? Yes I would. So the answer to your statement is both songs qualify as oldies and BOTH should be played on oldies stations, AS NEEDED.
"Music of your Life" relates to easy-listening standards that were mainly produced prior to 1955.
I wasn't sure who to reply to here, so I multi-quoted. I'm going to go ahead and say it: "Dominique" was an anomaly (sp). It was a hit during that two-month time frame between the Kennedy assassination, and the landing of the Beatles on our shores. We may never see a situation like that again. I seriously doubt that very many people were paying attention to the charts (except maybe radio and music industry types) in December of 1963. (Kinda makes one wonder why the Four Seasons celebrated that month in song!) I'm thinking that "Dominique" simply filled a void during that time. Sure, "Louie Louie" was #2, but 1963 wasn't really a "rock" year. That all changed when the Beatles invaded, but that wasn't until '64.

Having said that, I believe that "Dominique" should NOT be played on any oldies stations NOW. A few years ago, I might have said differently, but not anymore. An MOYL station would be the perfect place for it, if anyone is still airing it. We have an MOYL station here in Nashville, and they play stuff from the '60s, '70s, '80s, right up until now. Even Norah Jones is on their playlist, and of course, lots of Barry Manilow. MOYL certainly existed after 1955.
 
Talk_Dude said:
Actually, the original "You Light Up My Life" by Kasey Cisyk was (I thought) much better than the cover by Pat Boone's daughter.
As for Debbie Boone's version of "You Light up My Life", you are correct that it is a masterpiece. It's masterpiece example of the art of corporate music marketing. It was sold like a box of soap and the public bought it. It wasn't as good as the original, but Debbie Boone looked cuter on the cover than Kasey Cisyk would have, and she was Pat's daughter.
Maybe I'm missing something here. Did Pat Boone really have that much influence on the music business in 1977? I could see it if it was 1957, but by '77, Boone was 15 years removed from his own last top 40 appearance. If he were so influential, it seems that he should have been able to keep his daughter returning to the charts for years to follow. And we know that that didn't happen.

Having said that, I don't consider the Boone version of "You Light Up My Life" to be a "cover" version. Hers came out almost simultaneously with the Cisyk version, and certainly coincided with the movie hitting the theaters. To me, they both seemed to have been recorded to the same backing track. Maybe the Cisyk version had more strings on it. Was the Cisyk version ever released as a single? I know that hers is the one that you hear on the soundtrack album. I remember a letter to the editor of the TV listings in the local newspaper asking whether Didi Conn or Debby Boone sang "You Light Up My Life" in the movie. Of course, the answer was neither. If it's just a "looks" thing, then Didi Conn would have won out over Debby Boone, but Conn was only lip-synching.

Cisyk would go on to sing "have you driven a Ford lately?" in TV commercials in the '80s.
 
firepoint525 said:
Having said that, I believe that "Dominique" should NOT be played on any oldies stations NOW. A few years ago, I might have said differently, but not anymore. An MOYL station would be the perfect place for it, if anyone is still airing it. We have an MOYL station here in Nashville, and they play stuff from the '60s, '70s, '80s, right up until now. Even Norah Jones is on their playlist, and of course, lots of Barry Manilow. MOYL certainly existed after 1955.

I was referring to the Rock and Roll era's oldies, which includes Manilow and the other MOYL artists from that time. Sorry, if I wasn't clear.

The MOYL from Pre-1955 is another group of music (Rosemary Clooney, Patti Page, Perry Como....etc.) that is rarely heard anymore. And I originally referred to that.

As for "Dominique", it's a "rock era" oldie too, but would not be played on oldies stations, unless it's part of a 1963 special.

I suppose the Singing Nun could blend well with the other girl groups out there at the time. :D
 
i'll settle this...Dominique is played back to back with Sister Janet Mead's 'The Lords Prayer'..a top forty hit (i think, my Billboard book is not close by at the moment)..from around 1975...follow those with the Doobies "Jesus is Just Alright, an of course lest we forget.."Stairway to Heaven" either by Zep or Neil Sedaka..it's your call... ;) lol...and you have a nice little fourplay there....Of course the first two DO break one of radio's written in stone rules.."no women artists back to back" ::)..up next the COAL MINERS TRILOGY...Big Bad John, Workin' in A Coal mine....and Timothy.. :eek: and all of these can be heard on my toy station...i say "can be"..not "are".. :D i have yet to play Dominique...
 
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