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101.1 JACK: Just Another Rock Station

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DiamondJoe

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I'm changing my opinion a little bit on this adaptation of Jack... When it launched this weekend, it really mixed it up... Lately, though, it's been leaning toward mostly rock songs - classic rock, modern rock, alternative rock... They still mix in odd (segue) songs like "Hey Ya" and "Groove Is In The Heart"... But listening this morning, it was kinda like listening to the old WNEW at some points... Ironic because I confessed yesterday on this very board that listening to the presentation makes me think by default that I was listening to 102.7...

Over the weekend, I was hearing songs I haven't heard on the radio for years. Roxette's "Joyride", for example... It appears they've strayed from the "oh wow" factor and concentrated on the rock hits... But who am I to complain, right, they're "playing what they want"... And I still think the format is creative; apparently there is actually another guy on the payroll, and he's writing the "fresh" liner jokes for the voice guy (e.g. "Russell Crowe, hang up that phone before you hurt somebody"; "No Olympics, no stadium... no requests, Mayor Bloomberg...")

Well, we know why there isn't many dance songs on Jack - because it might hurt its sister station Mix 102.7. Now we have a playlist focusing mostly on rock - which is impacting sister station K-Rock 92.3, which itself has morphed into a rock "Jack" earlier this year. If things keep up this way, something will happen, yes, a format switch that some have predicted is bound to happen...

92.3 goes all-Polka in 2006.<P ID="signature">______________


New York City Radio and TV</P>
 
92.3 fm and urban

I'm going to get slammed for this but there is more room in the market for urban radio. A viable format for 92.3 once Stern leaves would be classic hip, hop and r&b. Perhaps something similar to what KDAY was supposed to be in LA.
It wouldn't overlap with Infitity's MIX 102.7 as it wouldn't be danced based. It would be programmed for urban listeners.
New York is the birth place of hip, hop and a station dedicated to this eclectic sound might fair well in New York.
Urban (hip, hop) is today's rock with even small, white, traditionally rock markets jumping in on the hip, hop band wagon. Just as rock has/had it's different formatted stations within the rock genre, as hip, hop ages genres within hip, hop could be quite viable. It might be a bit early to suggest such a format but New York would be the place to debut it.
Wouldn't it be ironic to see 92.3 fm debut another "new" format years after it debuted the original disco, 92KTU!?<P ID="signature">______________
WQCD, NY. Chill, Finally some creative radio!</P>
 
Re: 92.3 fm and urban (It's viable...)

> I'm going to get slammed for this but there is more room in
> the market for urban radio. A viable format for 92.3 once
> Stern leaves would be classic hip, hop and r&b. Perhaps
> something similar to what KDAY was supposed to be in LA.
> It wouldn't overlap with Infitity's MIX 102.7 as it wouldn't
> be danced based. It would be programmed for urban listeners.

You won't be "slammed" at all, at least not by me... I did say over the weekend that one of the options for 92.3 would be an urban format of some sort, if only to go toe-to-toe with Clear Channel and Emmis. Along with a spanish contemporary, urban is a very viable option. <P ID="signature">______________


New York City Radio and TV</P>
 
You know, it's funny.
I keep hearing people say :"This Jack sounds different than that Jack." But I've done some research, and what you've described is exactly the same as the music I've heard on Jack in San Diego, and Jack in LA. As I Recall, Jack in San Diego also came on the air with the Beastie Boy's "fight for your right to party."

I also have spies in San Diego. I'll bet during the morning hours its more older 70's stuff, and at night it's more 80'ish?

Folks, this is all a canned thing. I hate to say it. But all these Jacks sound exactly the same. What makes them sound different to you is the fact that your all hitting them at different times. But with a playlist as wide as Jack has, I wouldn't be suprised if there was just one playlist, set in motion at different times for different markets to make it sound different. Just a guess I confess. But I don't think there's a shred of difference between one Jack and the next.
Again, IMHO.


> I'm changing my opinion a little bit on this adaptation of
> Jack... When it launched this weekend, it really mixed it
> up... Lately, though, it's been leaning toward mostly rock
> songs - classic rock, modern rock, alternative rock... They
> still mix in odd (segue) songs like "Hey Ya" and "Groove Is
> In The Heart"... But listening this morning, it was kinda
> like listening to the old WNEW at some points... Ironic
> because I confessed yesterday on this very board that
> listening to the presentation makes me think by default that
> I was listening to 102.7...
>
> Over the weekend, I was hearing songs I haven't heard on the
> radio for years. Roxette's "Joyride", for example... It
> appears they've strayed from the "oh wow" factor and
> concentrated on the rock hits... But who am I to complain,
> right, they're "playing what they want"... And I still think
> the format is creative; apparently there is actually another
> guy on the payroll, and he's writing the "fresh" liner jokes
> for the voice guy (e.g. "Russell Crowe, hang up that phone
> before you hurt somebody"; "No Olympics, no stadium... no
> requests, Mayor Bloomberg...")
>
> Well, we know why there isn't many dance songs on Jack -
> because it might hurt its sister station Mix 102.7. Now we
> have a playlist focusing mostly on rock - which is impacting
> sister station K-Rock 92.3, which itself has morphed into a
> rock "Jack" earlier this year. If things keep up this way,
> something will happen, yes, a format switch that some have
> predicted is bound to happen...
>
> 92.3 goes all-Polka in 2006.
>
 
Re: 92.3 fm and urban

JEFFREY,

Let's hope that 92.3 takes a page from its earlier days and flip to classic hiphop and classic house (circa 1982 - early 90s).

Imagine bringing back Carlos DeJesus, Shep Pettibone, The Latin Rascals, and even Tony Humphries...wow that would be something. And just for good measure, throw Red Alert a nice bone to lure him from POWER 105!

The time has come, and New York City radio has bastardized classic NY-centric urban music long enough.



> I'm going to get slammed for this but there is more room in
> the market for urban radio. A viable format for 92.3 once
> Stern leaves would be classic hip, hop and r&b. Perhaps
> something similar to what KDAY was supposed to be in LA.
> It wouldn't overlap with Infitity's MIX 102.7 as it wouldn't
> be danced based. It would be programmed for urban listeners.
>
> New York is the birth place of hip, hop and a station
> dedicated to this eclectic sound might fair well in New
> York.
> Urban (hip, hop) is today's rock with even small, white,
> traditionally rock markets jumping in on the hip, hop band
> wagon. Just as rock has/had it's different formatted
> stations within the rock genre, as hip, hop ages genres
> within hip, hop could be quite viable. It might be a bit
> early to suggest such a format but New York would be the
> place to debut it.
> Wouldn't it be ironic to see 92.3 fm debut another "new"
> format years after it debuted the original disco, 92KTU!?
>
 
> I'm changing my opinion a little bit on this adaptation of
> Jack... When it launched this weekend, it really mixed it
> up... Lately, though, it's been leaning toward mostly rock
> songs - classic rock, modern rock, alternative rock... They
> still mix in odd (segue) songs like "Hey Ya" and "Groove Is
> In The Heart"... But listening this morning, it was kinda
> like listening to the old WNEW at some points... Ironic
> because I confessed yesterday on this very board that
> listening to the presentation makes me think by default that
> I was listening to 102.7...

I agree, over the weekend I kept tuning in to hear what was on, now I've got it in my head that Infinity is either trying to take on WPLJ, or K-Rock, which makes little sense.

> 92.3 goes all-Polka in 2006.

Hey, I'd enjoy that. I miss WFUV's Polka Party. :)<P ID="signature">______________
...in my day, you could tell the stations apart by the music they played!</P>
 
Re: 92.3 fm and urban

I don't know if that'd be an easy sell but damn that'd sound great.


> JEFFREY,
>
> Let's hope that 92.3 takes a page from its earlier days and
> flip to classic hiphop and classic house (circa 1982 - early
> 90s).
>
> Imagine bringing back Carlos DeJesus, Shep Pettibone, The
> Latin Rascals, and even Tony Humphries...wow that would be
> something. And just for good measure, throw Red Alert a
> nice bone to lure him from POWER 105!
>
> The time has come, and New York City radio has bastardized
> classic NY-centric urban music long enough.
>
>
>
> > I'm going to get slammed for this but there is more room
> in
> > the market for urban radio. A viable format for 92.3 once
> > Stern leaves would be classic hip, hop and r&b. Perhaps
> > something similar to what KDAY was supposed to be in LA.
> > It wouldn't overlap with Infitity's MIX 102.7 as it
> wouldn't
> > be danced based. It would be programmed for urban
> listeners.
> >
> > New York is the birth place of hip, hop and a station
> > dedicated to this eclectic sound might fair well in New
> > York.
> > Urban (hip, hop) is today's rock with even small, white,
> > traditionally rock markets jumping in on the hip, hop band
>
> > wagon. Just as rock has/had it's different formatted
> > stations within the rock genre, as hip, hop ages genres
> > within hip, hop could be quite viable. It might be a bit
> > early to suggest such a format but New York would be the
> > place to debut it.
> > Wouldn't it be ironic to see 92.3 fm debut another "new"
> > format years after it debuted the original disco, 92KTU!?
> >
>
 
Re: 92.3 fm and urban

> I don't know if that'd be an easy sell but damn that'd sound
> great.
>
>
> > JEFFREY,
> >
> > Let's hope that 92.3 takes a page from its earlier days
> and
> > flip to classic hiphop and classic house (circa 1982 -
> early
> > 90s).
> >
> > Imagine bringing back Carlos DeJesus, Shep Pettibone, The
> > Latin Rascals, and even Tony Humphries...wow that would be
>
> > something. And just for good measure, throw Red Alert a
> > nice bone to lure him from POWER 105!
> >
> > The time has come, and New York City radio has bastardized
>
> > classic NY-centric urban music long enough.
> >
> >
> >
> > > I'm going to get slammed for this but there is more room
>
> > in
> > > the market for urban radio. A viable format for 92.3
> once
> > > Stern leaves would be classic hip, hop and r&b. Perhaps
> > > something similar to what KDAY was supposed to be in LA.
>
> > > It wouldn't overlap with Infitity's MIX 102.7 as it
> > wouldn't
> > > be danced based. It would be programmed for urban
> > listeners.
> > >
> > > New York is the birth place of hip, hop and a station
> > > dedicated to this eclectic sound might fair well in New
> > > York.
> > > Urban (hip, hop) is today's rock with even small, white,
>
> > > traditionally rock markets jumping in on the hip, hop
> band
> >
> > > wagon. Just as rock has/had it's different formatted
> > > stations within the rock genre, as hip, hop ages genres
> > > within hip, hop could be quite viable. It might be a bit
>
> > > early to suggest such a format but New York would be
> the
> > > place to debut it.
> > > Wouldn't it be ironic to see 92.3 fm debut another "new"
>
> > > format years after it debuted the original disco,
> 92KTU!?
> > >
> >
>

PR Soul discussed this a while back and without question, a station like this could definitely WORK! All of the classic R&B/hip-hop from the 98.7 Kiss/BLS days of the 80's would work!
 
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