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101.5 Call letters...??

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Johnnie_Radio

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Will 101.5 have New letters to reflect the new format, or will CBS just Keep ZON
 
My guess is that they'll keep KZON as the call letters, sine they incorporated a 'Z' into the station name.

101.5 JamZ
 
KZON was originally 1280 AM before switching to KHEP (Keep Him in Everlasting Praise), and then to KTKP (K TalK Phoenix), and now it's KXEG (of which I have no clue as to the meaning).
 
I do like that KZON's legal ID makes it clear what the call letters are. On KZZP (not sure about KKFR), the legal ID goes so fast, it's very difficult to actually hear the call letters.
 
Whoa MAMOFRADIO (Jason Rivers). KZON originally signed on in Tolleson in about 1960 and on 1190AM at 250 watts. I was there when they signed on. After contracting a 3 hour show weekends for almost a year, they went Spanish. I walked, with my sponsors.

But there was never a direct tie between that station and KZON-FM as the KZON(AM) call was never reassigned and many years separated the two stations.

ISTR KHEP signed on under Ray Odom(spell?) at 1280(AM) on West McDowell. His main studio faced McDowell through a large plate glass window and folks would drive by and blow their horn at him. Yes, Ray played country on his 500 watt daytimer.

Bob Dreste (Bob Louis back then)
 
justthenumbers said:
I do like that KZON's legal ID makes it clear what the call letters are. On KZZP (not sure about KKFR), the legal ID goes so fast, it's very difficult to actually hear the call letters.
Well, call letters these don't really mean much to the average listener. Stations brand themselves with names like KISS, POWER, and CAMEL, and with the advent of the PPM, the calls will mean little to those not working for the FCC, Arbitron, or Mediabase.

(Yes, I realize that there are stations like KDWB, WPLJ, and KTAR that still brand with their call letters... but how many NEW stations identify themselves strictly by calls?)
 
Realist said:
justthenumbers said:
I do like that KZON's legal ID makes it clear what the call letters are. On KZZP (not sure about KKFR), the legal ID goes so fast, it's very difficult to actually hear the call letters.
Well, call letters these don't really mean much to the average listener. Stations brand themselves with names like KISS, POWER, and CAMEL, and with the advent of the PPM, the calls will mean little to those not working for the FCC, Arbitron, or Mediabase.

(Yes, I realize that there are stations like KDWB, WPLJ, and KTAR that still brand with their call letters... but how many NEW stations identify themselves strictly by calls?)

You are correct - call letters mean very little nowadays. I'm not trying to say that clearly identifying the calls is going to benefit the station (just as zipping through the legal ID isn't going to hurt the stations that do it). But for those of us that like these things, it's a nice little bonus - especially for a young-leaning start-from-scratch station. That is all.
 
. . . and then there are the stations giving their listeners the impression they have three-letters calls, i.e. KEZ (KESZ) and Tucson's KRQ (KRQQ). One of the worst for disguising their call is KPLX in Dallas, which totally hides their legal ID with low volume under music or tightly sandwiched between spots at half modulation.

Not surprisingly, they billboard their corporate name "The Wolf" forty or fifty times an hour. They, like KSED in Sedona (Flagstaff), refer to themselves as "NEW" for over five years. KSED is better known as KOLT (107.5), which is licensed to Scottsbluff, NE and Warren AFB in Wyoming. Call letters seem to mean nothing anymore.
 
Bob Dreste said:
. . . and then there are the stations giving their listeners the impression they have three-letters calls, i.e. KEZ (KESZ) and Tucson's KRQ (KRQQ). One of the worst for disguising their call is KPLX in Dallas, which totally hides their legal ID with low volume under music or tightly sandwiched between spots at half modulation.

Not surprisingly, they billboard their corporate name "The Wolf" forty or fifty times an hour. They, like KSED in Sedona (Flagstaff), refer to themselves as "NEW" for over five years. KSED is better known as KOLT (107.5), which is licensed to Scottsbluff, NE and Warren AFB in Wyoming. Call letters seem to mean nothing anymore.
Why is this bad or disgusting? Does the average listener care about the four letter assigned to the station by the FCC? What harms come from a station branding as KEZ or KRQ? Are listeners attached to "z100" or "WHTZ"? "Power" or "KKFR"? Other than longing for the old days, what difference does it make if a station buries its legal?
 
It is neither bad nor discusting (your words) but it indicates a major change from only a few decades ago. The commission's focus is not in this area. I would surmise that 99% of stations respect the ID rule. Others that bury their
legal ID (my words) could very well hold other rules in low regard.

Please avoid responding "More power to them," since that too is illegal. (Tongue planted firmly in cheek.)
 
Realist said:
justthenumbers said:
I do like that KZON's legal ID makes it clear what the call letters are. On KZZP (not sure about KKFR), the legal ID goes so fast, it's very difficult to actually hear the call letters.
Well, call letters these don't really mean much to the average listener. Stations brand themselves with names like KISS, POWER, and CAMEL, and with the advent of the PPM, the calls will mean little to those not working for the FCC, Arbitron, or Mediabase.

(Yes, I realize that there are stations like KDWB, WPLJ, and KTAR that still brand with their call letters... but how many NEW stations identify themselves strictly by calls?)

Yeah, all those Camel stations out there... What?! Hahaha.
 
to Bob D.

The station Ray Odom put on was 1480 KHAT. THAT station was near 27th Avenue and McDowell (northwest corner). He later sold that property to buy KPHO (910).

As far as I know KHEP has been located mear 38th Avenue and Indian School Road and on 1280.

Mike
 
The tower for 1280 AM is near 38th Av and Indian School, but the studios for what is now KXEG (KHEP no longer exists as such) used to be at 2nd Av and Clarendon in the City Towers. They may still be there.
 
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