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101.9 FM New speeds up the music

Based on what has happened in Chicago with 101.1, I think that speeding up of any music is going to be a moot point soon.

They (Mr. Michaels, Sabo etc.) got all of us radio geeks talking about them and the station. Now let's see if that translates to the listening public when NYC gets its third all news station.
 
Speeding up the music was done on WKLO in Louisville back in the day, and here is how they did it. Source: http://www.1080wklo.com/


'KLO Comments from the late Mike Rivers (August 14, 2003)


Back in the early to mid 70's, we sped up the tables at WKLO, Louisville by 4% (exactly a half-tone). The turntables we used didn't have a pitch control, so we had to manually lift the platters off and put a precisely measured length of 1/4" splicing tape around the 45 rpm section of the turntable capstan. This increased the size of that part of the capstan just enough to pitch it up 4%. I also have perfect pitch, so this little assignment was left to me. I'd have to replace the capstan tape about once a month.

The one song I remember really benefiting from this treatment was "Rocking Pneumonia and the Boogie-Woogie Flu" - at normal speed it seem to really drag. Up 4% and it cooked.

Our chief competition, WAKY never did speed theirs up, but I knew some of their staff and they always complained about how the music sounded "so much better" on our station than on theirs. I don't think they had anyone over there with ears keen enough to figure out what we were doing. We also varisped-up our jingles by 4% as well, so there wouldn't be a pitch-clash.
 
erwin33 said:
badjef said:
oldies76 said:
This practice of speeding up music should be obsolete. It sounds horrible and the big question is why?? Maybe on dance / club stations, but anywhere else, get rid of it.

"Every Breath You Take" from 1983 sped up?? Really? Nice way to lose listenership.
You guys haven't figured it out!
They don't want listeners... yet! You have already heard an outline of a timetable for the rollout of the complete takeover. But want to continue to make up your own agendas for what ever reason.

I've been sampling this station from Florida and can tell you that this is something you have to just kick back, wait, and listen - or not.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

How can you listen/sampling in Florida while the station has no livestream yet?

ANYONE can plug a ghetto blaster into a laptop, man.. Where you been?
 
JON BRUCE said:
Bring Bob Dayton back. In the 1980's we sped up

Bring Bob Dayton back ! In L.A.in the 80's we sped up "Every Breath" by 6 percent. Hearing it now as an oldie not sped up it sounds too slow to me.

'

Bob Dayton is handling the graveyard shift. His listeners are just dying to tune in.

Remember when he was on 101.9 in 1972.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
2% I can see (any higher might be inviting awkwardly curious publicity these days), but for OLDER music (before the death of analog vinyl, roundabout 1988.)

These days with newer music, maybe not so. People are far more accustomed to hearing music from that point on played at normal, digitally perfect pitch.

I agree some songs really do "cook" pitched up (even some newer ones), but really, the lack of pitch controls on 99.9% of CD players and most popular media players (I still have my old pitch control-enabled Sonique 1.96 program http://www.glop.org/sonique/ ) has pretty much rendered the whole novelty moot, save the dance clubs

Whatever slight pitch increase/decrease that naturally came with mass produced analog turntables and tape decks that people generally tolerated to some degree or another pretty much disappeared as the CD took dominance.

But whoever played "Every Breath You Take" at 6% pitch-up on the radio and lived to tell about it - you got more guts than I do!
 
badjef said:
JON BRUCE said:
Bring Bob Dayton back. In the 1980's we sped up

Bring Bob Dayton back ! In L.A.in the 80's we sped up "Every Breath" by 6 percent. Hearing it now as an oldie not sped up it sounds too slow to me.

'

Bob Dayton is handling the graveyard shift. His listeners are just dying to tune in.

Remember when he was on 101.9 in 1972.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

Speaking of Bob Dayton, the Hiroshima Anniversary is coming up next week.
 
radioman148 said:
badjef said:
JON BRUCE said:
Bring Bob Dayton back. In the 1980's we sped up

Bring Bob Dayton back ! In L.A.in the 80's we sped up "Every Breath" by 6 percent. Hearing it now as an oldie not sped up it sounds too slow to me.

'

Bob Dayton is handling the graveyard shift. His listeners are just dying to tune in.

Remember when he was on 101.9 in 1972.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

Speaking of Bob Dayton, the Hiroshima Anniversary is coming up next week.
Times have changed.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
rockradio1017 said:
erwin33 said:
badjef said:
oldies76 said:
This practice of speeding up music should be obsolete. It sounds horrible and the big question is why?? Maybe on dance / club stations, but anywhere else, get rid of it.

"Every Breath You Take" from 1983 sped up?? Really? Nice way to lose listenership.
You guys haven't figured it out!
They don't want listeners... yet! You have already heard an outline of a timetable for the rollout of the complete takeover. But want to continue to make up your own agendas for what ever reason.

I've been sampling this station from Florida and can tell you that this is something you have to just kick back, wait, and listen - or not.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

How can you listen/sampling in Florida while the station has no livestream yet?

ANYONE can plug a ghetto blaster into a laptop, man.. Where you been?
Yeah, but that just gives you better sound instead of the speakers in the laptop.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
radioman148 said:
In the 70s they said this made the station sound more "exciting".
It also gets more commercials in.

Kinda similar to what some talk stations do for some talk shows - lifting brief periods of dead air... And guess what, 101.9 is expected to be a talk station, so I'm sure we might expect a little of this happening, as well!
 
rockradio1017 said:
erwin33 said:
badjef said:
oldies76 said:
This practice of speeding up music should be obsolete. It sounds horrible and the big question is why?? Maybe on dance / club stations, but anywhere else, get rid of it.

"Every Breath You Take" from 1983 sped up?? Really? Nice way to lose listenership.
You guys haven't figured it out!
They don't want listeners... yet! You have already heard an outline of a timetable for the rollout of the complete takeover. But want to continue to make up your own agendas for what ever reason.

I've been sampling this station from Florida and can tell you that this is something you have to just kick back, wait, and listen - or not.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

How can you listen/sampling in Florida while the station has no livestream yet?

ANYONE can plug a ghetto blaster into a laptop, man.. Where you been?

Do read what I wrote? The station has no livestream yet so you can't listen on a laptop buddy..
 
erwin33 said:
rockradio1017 said:
erwin33 said:
badjef said:
oldies76 said:
This practice of speeding up music should be obsolete. It sounds horrible and the big question is why?? Maybe on dance / club stations, but anywhere else, get rid of it.

"Every Breath You Take" from 1983 sped up?? Really? Nice way to lose listenership.
You guys haven't figured it out!
They don't want listeners... yet! You have already heard an outline of a timetable for the rollout of the complete takeover. But want to continue to make up your own agendas for what ever reason.

I've been sampling this station from Florida and can tell you that this is something you have to just kick back, wait, and listen - or not.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

How can you listen/sampling in Florida while the station has no livestream yet?

ANYONE can plug a ghetto blaster into a laptop, man.. Where you been?

Do read what I wrote? The station has no livestream yet so you can't listen on a laptop buddy..
Sure, doesn’t everybody?

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
badjef said:
erwin33 said:
rockradio1017 said:
erwin33 said:
badjef said:
oldies76 said:
This practice of speeding up music should be obsolete. It sounds horrible and the big question is why?? Maybe on dance / club stations, but anywhere else, get rid of it.

"Every Breath You Take" from 1983 sped up?? Really? Nice way to lose listenership.
You guys haven't figured it out!
They don't want listeners... yet! You have already heard an outline of a timetable for the rollout of the complete takeover. But want to continue to make up your own agendas for what ever reason.

I've been sampling this station from Florida and can tell you that this is something you have to just kick back, wait, and listen - or not.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

How can you listen/sampling in Florida while the station has no livestream yet?

ANYONE can plug a ghetto blaster into a laptop, man.. Where you been?

Do read what I wrote? The station has no livestream yet so you can't listen on a laptop buddy..
Sure, doesn’t everybody?

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

Where is the URL?
 
erwin33 said:
badjef said:
erwin33 said:
rockradio1017 said:
erwin33 said:
badjef said:
oldies76 said:
This practice of speeding up music should be obsolete. It sounds horrible and the big question is why?? Maybe on dance / club stations, but anywhere else, get rid of it.

"Every Breath You Take" from 1983 sped up?? Really? Nice way to lose listenership.
You guys haven't figured it out!
They don't want listeners... yet! You have already heard an outline of a timetable for the rollout of the complete takeover. But want to continue to make up your own agendas for what ever reason.

I've been sampling this station from Florida and can tell you that this is something you have to just kick back, wait, and listen - or not.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

How can you listen/sampling in Florida while the station has no livestream yet?

ANYONE can plug a ghetto blaster into a laptop, man.. Where you been?

Do read what I wrote? The station has no livestream yet so you can't listen on a laptop buddy..
Sure, doesn’t everybody?

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

Where is the URL?
Maybe he's using one of those online receivers, like the ones at www.reciva.com. Not official, corporate-approved, commercials-scrubbed live streams, but audio taken right off the air by an analog receiver close to the station's transmitter.
 
CTListener said:
erwin33 said:
badjef said:
erwin33 said:
rockradio1017 said:
erwin33 said:
badjef said:
oldies76 said:
This practice of speeding up music should be obsolete. It sounds horrible and the big question is why?? Maybe on dance / club stations, but anywhere else, get rid of it.

"Every Breath You Take" from 1983 sped up?? Really? Nice way to lose listenership.
You guys haven't figured it out!
They don't want listeners... yet! You have already heard an outline of a timetable for the rollout of the complete takeover. But want to continue to make up your own agendas for what ever reason.

I've been sampling this station from Florida and can tell you that this is something you have to just kick back, wait, and listen - or not.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

How can you listen/sampling in Florida while the station has no livestream yet?

ANYONE can plug a ghetto blaster into a laptop, man.. Where you been?

Do read what I wrote? The station has no livestream yet so you can't listen on a laptop buddy..
Sure, doesn’t everybody?

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

Where is the URL?
Maybe he's using one of those online receivers, like the ones at www.reciva.com. Not official, corporate-approved, commercials-scrubbed live streams, but audio taken right off the air by an analog receiver close to the station's transmitter.

No Reciva.com is for users with an internet radio. You can recieve official streams with it, no off the air receiving like Global Tuners.
 
erwin33 said:
CTListener said:
erwin33 said:
badjef said:
erwin33 said:
rockradio1017 said:
erwin33 said:
badjef said:
oldies76 said:
This practice of speeding up music should be obsolete. It sounds horrible and the big question is why?? Maybe on dance / club stations, but anywhere else, get rid of it.

"Every Breath You Take" from 1983 sped up?? Really? Nice way to lose listenership.
You guys haven't figured it out!
They don't want listeners... yet! You have already heard an outline of a timetable for the rollout of the complete takeover. But want to continue to make up your own agendas for what ever reason.

I've been sampling this station from Florida and can tell you that this is something you have to just kick back, wait, and listen - or not.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

How can you listen/sampling in Florida while the station has no livestream yet?

ANYONE can plug a ghetto blaster into a laptop, man.. Where you been?

Do read what I wrote? The station has no livestream yet so you can't listen on a laptop buddy..
Sure, doesn’t everybody?

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

Where is the URL?
Maybe he's using one of those online receivers, like the ones at www.reciva.com. Not official, corporate-approved, commercials-scrubbed live streams, but audio taken right off the air by an analog receiver close to the station's transmitter.

No Reciva.com is for users with an internet radio. You can recieve official streams with it, no off the air receiving like Global Tuners.
OK, then maybe he's using Global Tuners. I thought both worked the same way.
 
CTListener said:
erwin33 said:
CTListener said:
erwin33 said:
badjef said:
erwin33 said:
rockradio1017 said:
erwin33 said:
badjef said:
oldies76 said:
This practice of speeding up music should be obsolete. It sounds horrible and the big question is why?? Maybe on dance / club stations, but anywhere else, get rid of it.

"Every Breath You Take" from 1983 sped up?? Really? Nice way to lose listenership.
You guys haven't figured it out!
They don't want listeners... yet! You have already heard an outline of a timetable for the rollout of the complete takeover. But want to continue to make up your own agendas for what ever reason.

I've been sampling this station from Florida and can tell you that this is something you have to just kick back, wait, and listen - or not.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

How can you listen/sampling in Florida while the station has no livestream yet?

ANYONE can plug a ghetto blaster into a laptop, man.. Where you been?

Do read what I wrote? The station has no livestream yet so you can't listen on a laptop buddy..
Sure, doesn’t everybody?

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

Where is the URL?
Maybe he's using one of those online receivers, like the ones at www.reciva.com. Not official, corporate-approved, commercials-scrubbed live streams, but audio taken right off the air by an analog receiver close to the station's transmitter.

No Reciva.com is for users with an internet radio. You can recieve official streams with it, no off the air receiving like Global Tuners.
OK, then maybe he's using Global Tuners. I thought both worked the same way.
I can do pretty much anything here in Sa-ra-so-ta!, except shovel snow.

“You can’t have it all, where would you put it?” Steven Wright.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
Global Tuners New York radio receivers are part time...they are currently online ...

http://www.globaltuners.com/receiver/188/vk4fsgw?v=xdr


CTListener said:
erwin33 said:
CTListener said:
erwin33 said:
badjef said:
erwin33 said:
rockradio1017 said:
erwin33 said:
badjef said:
oldies76 said:
This practice of speeding up music should be obsolete. It sounds horrible and the big question is why?? Maybe on dance / club stations, but anywhere else, get rid of it.

"Every Breath You Take" from 1983 sped up?? Really? Nice way to lose listenership.
You guys haven't figured it out!
They don't want listeners... yet! You have already heard an outline of a timetable for the rollout of the complete takeover. But want to continue to make up your own agendas for what ever reason.

I've been sampling this station from Florida and can tell you that this is something you have to just kick back, wait, and listen - or not.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

How can you listen/sampling in Florida while the station has no livestream yet?

ANYONE can plug a ghetto blaster into a laptop, man.. Where you been?

Do read what I wrote? The station has no livestream yet so you can't listen on a laptop buddy..
Sure, doesn’t everybody?

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

Where is the URL?
Maybe he's using one of those online receivers, like the ones at www.reciva.com. Not official, corporate-approved, commercials-scrubbed live streams, but audio taken right off the air by an analog receiver close to the station's transmitter.

No Reciva.com is for users with an internet radio. You can recieve official streams with it, no off the air receiving like Global Tuners.
OK, then maybe he's using Global Tuners. I thought both worked the same way.
 
Back to the original post:
WHO CARES??? Inside of two weeks, it will have been forgotten.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
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