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101.9 MILF News gone baby gone

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Ejxit

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Didn't think that stupid MILF format would even last this long. Pitty the poor saps that left WINS and WCBS and just got cut off the air in mid sentence and sent packing. Don't think Emmis can afford to buy WRXP. Emmis stock is in the toilet. RXP is taking rock music feeds out of Chicago for now. Too bad. If Merlin had any sense and balls they would recreate a mix of WMCA, WABC, WLIB, WNJR and WWRL 50's, 60's and 70's oldies and blow away CBS FM and finally make some money.
 
Didn't think that stupid MILF format would even last this long.

Perhaps you missed it, but the female oriented news format went away before last Christmas with the departure of programming consultant Walt Sabo. When it ran TV commercials after Christmas the spots were aimed at both genders.

If Merlin had any sense and balls they would recreate a mix of WMCA, WABC, WLIB, WNJR and WWRL 50's, 60's and 70's oldies and blow away CBS FM and finally make some money.

Perhaps you've missed the great multitude of postings on this board, and others, explaining that 50s, 60s, and 70s music attracts an audience that is older than advertisers are interested in. Radio stations generate profits with ad sales, and stations that don't attract the audience advertisers want, don't sell ads. There is one major market where an FM that plays 70s music is rated near the top of the list in the market, and yet ranks around 15th in revenue because it has an older audience that advertisers don't care that much about. Nobody switches an FM to a format that would put it at the bottom of the list in what really matters, and that is.....money.

By the way, WCBS-FM has a slight age problem the way it is now. It doesn't take in as much money a year as stations with the same size audience, but younger, and more attractive to advertiser, demos.
 
Ejxit said:
RXP is taking rock music feeds out of Chicago for now. Too bad. If Merlin had any sense and balls they would recreate a mix of WMCA, WABC, WLIB, WNJR and WWRL 50's, 60's and 70's oldies and blow away CBS FM and finally make some money.

New Rock 101.9 is not taking a rock music feed out of Chicago. It's programmers may be in Chicago, but it's not a feed from Chicago. I also think the programmers are doing a good job.

The call letters will change back to WRXP, but I don't think it's going to be a return of RXP. Merlin will likely just use the call letters and continue with the current alternative format and branding (as opposed to the less-focused RXP of the past). It's actually kind of smart. They don't have to 'buy' the RXP branding... just use the call letters. It'll probably make a lot of people think RXP is back... but better.
 
From the "Songs Just Played" log on the WKQX website:
8:18 AM I Miss You Blink 182
8:14 AM Not Your Fault Awolnation
8:10 AM Gone Away Offspring
8:06 AM Dreams Cranberries
8:02 AM Paradise Coldplay
7:59 AM Sorrow Bad Religion
7:56 AM Too Close Alex Clare
7:47 AM Gold On The Ceiling Black Keys

From the WEMP log on yes.com:
BLACK KEYS - Gold On The Ceiling 22.7.2012 8:08am
ALEX CLARE - Too Close 22.7.2012 8:11am
BAD RELIGION - Sorrow 22.7.2012 8:15am
COLDPLAY - Paradise 22.7.2012 8:18am
CRANBERRIES - Dreams 22.7.2012 8:22am
OFFSPRING - Gone Away 22.7.2012 8:27am
AWOLNATION - Not Your Fault 22.7.2012 8:31am
BLINK 182 - I Miss You 22.7.2012 8:35am

I think Ejxit was on to something. On this Sunday morning, WEMP is indeed playing the same songs in the same order as WKQX, except that WKQX is about 43 minutes ahead of us (remember that Chicago is in the Central time zone). We'll have to see how the logs compare on an afternoon when they have their unnamed DJ on.
 
Of course, it makes sense that 101.9 is currently being programmed out of Chicago, since Merlin already has a staffed Alternative outlet there. Expect a customized local station in NY once they start hiring.
 
EasyBakeOven said:
Of course, it makes sense that 101.9 is currently being programmed out of Chicago, since Merlin already has a staffed Alternative outlet there. Expect a customized local station in NY once they start hiring.

I agree with this completely.
 
I do not have a problem with them taking the feed from Chicago as long as they give it more bandwidth so it does not sound like crap. The audio quality is one thing FM has over a web stream so they should be taking advantage of that since that is where the Ad revenue is.

Otherwise I could stream other Alternative stations with the same quality on my cell phone.
 
Perhaps you've missed the great multitude of postings. No I ignore them. 50s, 60s, and 70s music attracts an audience that is older than advertisers are interested in. The right mix of Doo Wop, Soul and Rock and Roll could be geared for a very broad audience unlike the narrowcasting that CBS-FM is toying with. Nobody switches an FM to a format that would put it at the bottom of the list in what really matters, and that is.....money. Ha! WRXP did.
 
Ejxit said:
Perhaps you've missed the great multitude of postings. No I ignore them. 50s, 60s, and 70s music attracts an audience that is older than advertisers are interested in. The right mix of Doo Wop, Soul and Rock and Roll could be geared for a very broad audience unlike the narrowcasting that CBS-FM is toying with. Nobody switches an FM to a format that would put it at the bottom of the list in what really matters, and that is.....money. Ha! WRXP did.

When WRXP left the airwaves first time around, they had over two million listeners a week. The biggest problem I saw was that the format was that for most of it's existance it was unfocused. Now, listening to it over the past few days, it sounds very focused. While it may not scale the heights of WCBS in terms of popularity, it may just shave some cume off Q104.3, over time. My reasoning, the Alternative/Modern Rock audience had nowhere to go.
 
TimeIsTight said:
By the way, WCBS-FM has a slight age problem the way it is now. It doesn't take in as much money a year as stations with the same size audience, but younger, and more attractive to advertiser, demos.

If you take "Fox Oldies" in the Poughkeepsie, that would bring in the former CBS-FM listeners to the table. According to the Poughkeepsie Spring ratings book that came out recently that WGNY's "Fox Oldies" is up to a 4.2 in the ratings, just almost half of CBS-FM's audience tuned in for their music with a 6.2 in 3rd place according to the PPM. WGNY's "Fox Oldies" plays a bunch of pre-Beatles 1955-63 songs on that station like the way CBS-FM played 40 years ago. About two weeks ago, CBS-FM celebrated its 40th anniversary played some of the stuff that "Fox Oldies" is playing right now.
 
My reasoning, the Alternative/Modern Rock audience had nowhere to go.
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Alternative/Modern Rock is too niche. It will live on youTube and iPods for those who have a few bucks in their pocket and really desire it. FUSE network caters to the so called Alternative/Modern Rock crowd and their 2nd from the bottom of cable TV ratings.
 
If you take "Fox Oldies" in the Poughkeepsie, that would bring in the former CBS-FM listeners to the table.

A fresh non copycat DooWop, Soul and Rock & Roll approach could easily give CBS and others a good run for the money. But you have to stop listening to those out of town consultants and really dig into the music and entertain the public. Dare to be different.
 
chrocket87 said:
...Didn't think NY would end up running Premium Choice, or Merlin's version of it.

For the record, CC's Q104.3 actually runs a Premium Choice playlist on overnights - why else do you think their "Two-fer Tuesday" bit doesn't get started until 5 AM?
 
Ejxit said:
Perhaps you've missed the great multitude of postings. No I ignore them. 50s, 60s, and 70s music attracts an audience that is older than advertisers are interested in. The right mix of Doo Wop, Soul and Rock and Roll could be geared for a very broad audience unlike the narrowcasting that CBS-FM is toying with. Nobody switches an FM to a format that would put it at the bottom of the list in what really matters, and that is.....money. Ha! WRXP did.

And you are ignoring what is the reality of the radio business. The advertisers don't care! We in radio know about the large number of people who will listen. But the advertisers don't want to talk to them. And if advertiser won't put their money there...the stations don't offer the programming. Simple as that.

Now go on and keep ignoring this and rant at us all you want!
 
Looks like the playlist sharing continues this afternoon. The WEMP (WRXP?) playlist from 12:31 to 1:37 PM was, for the most part, the same as what WKQX played from 12:25 to 1:27 PM (Central) - except that two back-to-back songs, AWOLnation's "Sail" and Red Hot Chili Peppers' "Soul To Squeeze", don't appear on the WEMP log. Since there was a 10-minute gap where those songs would have gone, it's possible that yes.com simply didn't pick them up, or they could have put a commercial break in place of those songs. I've definitely heard them play "Sail" before - don't remember if they played "Soul To Squeeze" but they certainly have played plenty of old RHCP hits.
 
DToTheJ said:
chrocket87 said:
...Didn't think NY would end up running Premium Choice, or Merlin's version of it.

For the record, CC's Q104.3 actually runs a Premium Choice playlist on overnights - why else do you think their "Two-fer Tuesday" bit doesn't get started until 5 AM?
The "broadcast day" begins with the Morning program - whether that program starts at 5am or 6am. Whatever happens before that is programming for the day before. Besides, nobody cares about anything after Midnight.

"No good comes after midnight." - me.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
[/If you take "Fox Oldies" in the Poughkeepsie, that would bring in the former CBS-FM listeners to the table. According to the Poughkeepsie Spring ratings book that came out recently that WGNY's "Fox Oldies" is up to a 4.2 in the ratings, just almost half of CBS-FM's audience tuned in for their music with a 6.2 in 3rd place according to the PPM. WGNY's "Fox Oldies" plays a bunch of pre-Beatles 1955-63 songs on that station like the way CBS-FM played 40 years ago. About two weeks ago, CBS-FM celebrated its 40th anniversary played some of the stuff that "Fox Oldies" is playing right now.quote]

I wouldn't say that "just almost half of CBS-FM's audience tuned in". This is the POUGHKEEPSIE book, not the NYC book. Almost half of almost nothing is almost nothing.

The Poughkeepsie market total population is 1/14 of CBS-FM's total cume.
 
BMR said:
Ejxit said:
Didn't think that stupid MILF format would even last this long.

No, it's no good.

I'm going to have to ask.

What on this earth is a 'MILF format'??
It is the 201x version of the 90's "soccer mom".

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
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